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Lenovo 110S - Making a Recovery Disc
My son bought a Lenovo 110S Ideapad at Best Buy for $130.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-i...-laptop-intel- celeron-2gb-memory-32gb-emmc-flash-memory-white/5580020.p?skuId=5580020 It's a very basic laptop, and he will use it for email and browsing for guitar tabs. He wants to either erase the entire solid state drive, and install Linux, or leave the existing solid state intact and run Linux off of a microSD card. I told him this would involve learning how to work with a UEFI, which is new to him, and the UEFI may not even allow booting from an external source. Anyway, I recommended that he first make a recovery copy of the entire solid state drive, including the hidden factory partition before he starts experimenting. But, I pulled up the Lenovo manual he https://download.lenovo.com/consumer...d_s110_ug_v1.0 _english.pdf It is a bit confusing as to whether or not a recovery copy can be made on a thumb drive or only on optical discs. In one section, pg. 25: "...you can back up the system partition on the hard disk drive, other storage devices, or by creating recovery discs." Next, on pg. 26: "Note:If your computer does not come with an in tegrated optical drive or if the integrated optical drive does not support disc creating, connect an appropriate external optical drive to your computer." If I had the laptop here, I'd just start the making a recovery disc process, and see if it allows use of a microSD card, or a thumb drive. Anyone know what is true? |
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Lenovo 110S - Making a Recovery Disc
Boris wrote:
My son bought a Lenovo 110S Ideapad at Best Buy for $130. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-i...-laptop-intel- celeron-2gb-memory-32gb-emmc-flash-memory-white/5580020.p?skuId=5580020 It's a very basic laptop, and he will use it for email and browsing for guitar tabs. He wants to either erase the entire solid state drive, and install Linux, or leave the existing solid state intact and run Linux off of a microSD card. I told him this would involve learning how to work with a UEFI, which is new to him, and the UEFI may not even allow booting from an external source. Anyway, I recommended that he first make a recovery copy of the entire solid state drive, including the hidden factory partition before he starts experimenting. But, I pulled up the Lenovo manual he https://download.lenovo.com/consumer...d_s110_ug_v1.0 _english.pdf It is a bit confusing as to whether or not a recovery copy can be made on a thumb drive or only on optical discs. In one section, pg. 25: "...you can back up the system partition on the hard disk drive, other storage devices, or by creating recovery discs." Next, on pg. 26: "Note:If your computer does not come with an in tegrated optical drive or if the integrated optical drive does not support disc creating, connect an appropriate external optical drive to your computer." If I had the laptop here, I'd just start the making a recovery disc process, and see if it allows use of a microSD card, or a thumb drive. Anyone know what is true? The 110s does not use the S110 manual. The S110 is a Win7 era computer. The 110s is a Windows 10 era computer. ******* The RecoveryDrive.exe program is written by Microsoft and you'll notice it doesn't have Lenovo branding. https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/ca/en/p...tions/HT117511 When I tested that here, it uses a USB flash key. The size of key needed is variable, as a function of the OEM software content. When I tested on my generic 14393 Release system, it all fit on an 8GB key. The instructions on that Lenovo page recommend a 16GB key. It should also execute for you faster, if it is using the WIM file already on the machine. In my case, it might have taken 20 minutes or more just to compress the content to make the WIM. Normally, the compressor Microsoft uses is multi-threaded, whereas the one in RecoveryDrive seemed to be single-threaded. And it could not take advantage of any extra cores. You can practice, by using Start : Run : Recoverydrive.exe on your own Win10 machine, but be aware that if ReagentC is not wired up properly, the utility will fail. And in my case, the USB key created, installs 14393.0, not 14393.693, so if restoring from that key, I would still need to download at least another 1GB of files to complete the update to current support level. The Lenovo image created, could be 10240 or 10586. If it was created from a live and up-to-date C: , it would be 14393. As images, these should not expired. However, the winload.exe or winload.efi on the key, that file is signed, and the signing can expire on those in some cases. That's not likely to happen, but I only mention it as a theoretical possibility (i.e. I've seen it happen here). The fact such an architectural hole exist, concerns me (customer thinks their ass is covered, inserts recovery media, media won't boot, customer busts a blood vessel). Paul |
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Lenovo 110S - Making a Recovery Disc
Paul wrote in news
Boris wrote: My son bought a Lenovo 110S Ideapad at Best Buy for $130. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-i...-laptop-intel- celeron-2gb-memory-32gb-emmc-flash-memory-white/5580020.p?skuId= 558002 0 It's a very basic laptop, and he will use it for email and browsing for guitar tabs. He wants to either erase the entire solid state drive, and install Linux, or leave the existing solid state intact and run Linux off of a microSD card. I told him this would involve learning how to work with a UEFI, which is new to him, and the UEFI may not even allow booting from an external source. Anyway, I recommended that he first make a recovery copy of the entire solid state drive, including the hidden factory partition before he starts experimenting. But, I pulled up the Lenovo manual he https://download.lenovo.com/consumer...d_s110_ug_v1.0 _english.pdf It is a bit confusing as to whether or not a recovery copy can be made on a thumb drive or only on optical discs. In one section, pg. 25: "...you can back up the system partition on the hard disk drive, other storage devices, or by creating recovery discs." Next, on pg. 26: "Note:If your computer does not come with an in tegrated optical drive or if the integrated optical drive does not support disc creating, connect an appropriate external optical drive to your computer." If I had the laptop here, I'd just start the making a recovery disc process, and see if it allows use of a microSD card, or a thumb drive. Anyone know what is true? The 110s does not use the S110 manual. The S110 is a Win7 era computer. The 110s is a Windows 10 era computer. ******* The RecoveryDrive.exe program is written by Microsoft and you'll notice it doesn't have Lenovo branding. https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/ca/en/p...-netbooks/100- se ries/110-15IBR/solutions/HT117511 When I tested that here, it uses a USB flash key. The size of key needed is variable, as a function of the OEM software content. When I tested on my generic 14393 Release system, it all fit on an 8GB key. The instructions on that Lenovo page recommend a 16GB key. It should also execute for you faster, if it is using the WIM file already on the machine. In my case, it might have taken 20 minutes or more just to compress the content to make the WIM. Normally, the compressor Microsoft uses is multi-threaded, whereas the one in RecoveryDrive seemed to be single-threaded. And it could not take advantage of any extra cores. You can practice, by using Start : Run : Recoverydrive.exe on your own Win10 machine, but be aware that if ReagentC is not wired up properly, the utility will fail. And in my case, the USB key created, installs 14393.0, not 14393.693, so if restoring from that key, I would still need to download at least another 1GB of files to complete the update to current support level. The Lenovo image created, could be 10240 or 10586. If it was created from a live and up-to-date C: , it would be 14393. As images, these should not expired. However, the winload.exe or winload.efi on the key, that file is signed, and the signing can expire on those in some cases. That's not likely to happen, but I only mention it as a theoretical possibility (i.e. I've seen it happen here). The fact such an architectural hole exist, concerns me (customer thinks their ass is covered, inserts recovery media, media won't boot, customer busts a blood vessel). Paul My son was home for a few days. Here's what he did to get Linux running on this Lenovo 110S. Basically, he followed the instruction manual (:-). He did not wipe any of the solid state drive, either OS or recovery partition, since he decided to run Linux off of a USB drive. He copied Linux Lite to a USB 3.0 drive, and set it aside. He pressed the 'Novo' button to get to the BIOS settings, and changed from UEFI to Legacy, and set to boot from USB. If he wants to run Linux, he plugs in the USB drive, and starts the laptop.. If he wants to run Windows 10, he unplugs the USB drive, and starts the laptop.. |
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Lenovo 110S - Making a Recovery Disc
Boris wrote in
09.88: Paul wrote in news Boris wrote: My son bought a Lenovo 110S Ideapad at Best Buy for $130. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-i...-laptop-intel- celeron-2gb-memory-32gb-emmc-flash-memory-white/5580020.p?skuId= 558002 0 It's a very basic laptop, and he will use it for email and browsing for guitar tabs. He wants to either erase the entire solid state drive, and install Linux, or leave the existing solid state intact and run Linux off of a microSD card. I told him this would involve learning how to work with a UEFI, which is new to him, and the UEFI may not even allow booting from an external source. Anyway, I recommended that he first make a recovery copy of the entire solid state drive, including the hidden factory partition before he starts experimenting. But, I pulled up the Lenovo manual he https://download.lenovo.com/consumer...b/ideapad_s110 _ug_v1.0 _english.pdf It is a bit confusing as to whether or not a recovery copy can be made on a thumb drive or only on optical discs. In one section, pg. 25: "...you can back up the system partition on the hard disk drive, other storage devices, or by creating recovery discs." Next, on pg. 26: "Note:If your computer does not come with an in tegrated optical drive or if the integrated optical drive does not support disc creating, connect an appropriate external optical drive to your computer." If I had the laptop here, I'd just start the making a recovery disc process, and see if it allows use of a microSD card, or a thumb drive. Anyone know what is true? The 110s does not use the S110 manual. The S110 is a Win7 era computer. The 110s is a Windows 10 era computer. ******* The RecoveryDrive.exe program is written by Microsoft and you'll notice it doesn't have Lenovo branding. https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/ca/en/p...-netbooks/100- se ries/110-15IBR/solutions/HT117511 When I tested that here, it uses a USB flash key. The size of key needed is variable, as a function of the OEM software content. When I tested on my generic 14393 Release system, it all fit on an 8GB key. The instructions on that Lenovo page recommend a 16GB key. It should also execute for you faster, if it is using the WIM file already on the machine. In my case, it might have taken 20 minutes or more just to compress the content to make the WIM. Normally, the compressor Microsoft uses is multi-threaded, whereas the one in RecoveryDrive seemed to be single-threaded. And it could not take advantage of any extra cores. You can practice, by using Start : Run : Recoverydrive.exe on your own Win10 machine, but be aware that if ReagentC is not wired up properly, the utility will fail. And in my case, the USB key created, installs 14393.0, not 14393.693, so if restoring from that key, I would still need to download at least another 1GB of files to complete the update to current support level. The Lenovo image created, could be 10240 or 10586. If it was created from a live and up-to-date C: , it would be 14393. As images, these should not expired. However, the winload.exe or winload.efi on the key, that file is signed, and the signing can expire on those in some cases. That's not likely to happen, but I only mention it as a theoretical possibility (i.e. I've seen it happen here). The fact such an architectural hole exist, concerns me (customer thinks their ass is covered, inserts recovery media, media won't boot, customer busts a blood vessel). Paul My son was home for a few days. Here's what he did to get Linux running on this Lenovo 110S. Basically, he followed the instruction manual (:-). He did not wipe any of the solid state drive, either OS or recovery partition, since he decided to run Linux off of a USB drive. He copied Linux Lite to a USB 3.0 drive, and set it aside. He pressed the 'Novo' button to get to the BIOS settings, and changed from UEFI to Legacy, and set to boot from USB. If he wants to run Linux, he plugs in the USB drive, and starts the laptop.. If he wants to run Windows 10, he unplugs the USB drive, and starts the laptop.. Well, my son sort of "bricked" his Lenovo notebook. He had Linux Lite working fine when booting off the Linux Lite USB, and Win10 working fine when booting without the USB inserted.. He liked Linux a lot because it ran so much faster than Win10, but the Lite version runs only off the USB and RAM. Any program that he ran while in Linux Lite (browsers, email, Skype), had to be reloaded each Lite session. He decided that he wanted to install a more permanent Linux version on the SSD, and in order to do this, wanted to delete the Win10 partition and install a Linux version there. He didn't want to touch the recovery partition. Here we go...yes, he deleted the recovery partition. He doesn't remember if missed a screen warning, if there was even a screen warning, or if there was but he acted too quickly (muscle memory (:-) ). At any rate, now he can only boot up Linux Lite off of the USB. He is getting with a more experienced Linux/hardware friend to load a more permanent version of Linux. No, he didn't make a recovery USB. We laughed. Oh, to be young and care free. |
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