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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
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I had to help a client whose's 13.3" MacBook Pro wouldn't boot up after travelling to another country. We tried to do stuff remotely, but stuff failed like Apple Hardware Test, Safe Mode, etc. This evening, he returned and I checked it out its Disk Utility v13 wouldn't fully verify and repair. So I had to do a Time Machine restore from his external USB2 HDD which took almost three hours to complete (over 161 GB of data). Now, Disk Utility's verifications passed and Mac OS X boots up in both recovery and after logging into restored Mac OS X on HDD. I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... So, I ran a short test and it passed. Long test twice, it failed at 90%. This sounds scary to me. What do you guys think? For now, I told him to use his MBP at his own risk and not to do any more backups to Time Machine drive just in case but do back up to external USB flash drives or so for now. If the drive is dying, what is a good replacement in case Apple won't replace it due to recent expired AppleCare on 9/17/2015 and planning in advance. He currently used almost 200 GB of disk space (Time Machine didn't keep his VMs, big videos, etc. but those were copied (back/cop)ied separately). Thank you in advance. -- Quote of the Week: Allah's Apostle said, "Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient to burn a single ant (that bit you)?'" --Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 54, Number 536 Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
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Hi. Lo. I had to help a client whose's 13.3" MacBook Pro wouldn't boot up after travelling to another country. We tried to do stuff remotely, but stuff failed like Apple Hardware Test, Safe Mode, etc. This evening, he returned and I checked it out its Disk Utility v13 wouldn't fully verify and repair. So I had to do a Time Machine restore from his external USB2 HDD which took almost three hours to complete (over 161 GB of data). Now, Disk Utility's verifications passed and Mac OS X boots up in both recovery and after logging into restored Mac OS X on HDD. I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. So, I ran a short test and it passed. Long test twice, it failed at 90%. This sounds scary to me. What do you guys think? She's dead Jim, you still into necrophilia ? For now, I told him to use his MBP at his own risk and not to do any more backups to Time Machine drive just in case but do back up to external USB flash drives or so for now. If the drive is dying, No if about it. what is a good replacement in case Apple won't replace it due to recent expired AppleCare on 9/17/2015 But it may have been covered when it was dropped. and planning in advance. Not clear what you mean there. He currently used almost 200 GB of disk space (Time Machine didn't keep his VMs, big videos, etc. but those were copied (back/cop)ied separately). Thank you in advance. Still smirking. You were warned... |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
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Lo. Ha. I had to help a client whose's 13.3" MacBook Pro wouldn't boot up after travelling to another country. We tried to do stuff remotely, but stuff failed like Apple Hardware Test, Safe Mode, etc. This evening, he returned and I checked it out its Disk Utility v13 wouldn't fully verify and repair. So I had to do a Time Machine restore from his external USB2 HDD which took almost three hours to complete (over 161 GB of data). Now, Disk Utility's verifications passed and Mac OS X boots up in both recovery and after logging into restored Mac OS X on HDD. I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. What type of drop? A big drop or a small drop? I will have to ask if he dropped it hard. So, I ran a short test and it passed. Long test twice, it failed at 90%. This sounds scary to me. What do you guys think? She's dead Jim, you still into necrophilia ? You love saying that. :P For now, I told him to use his MBP at his own risk and not to do any more backups to Time Machine drive just in case but do back up to external USB flash drives or so for now. If the drive is dying, No if about it. OK. what is a good replacement in case Apple won't replace it due to recent expired AppleCare on 9/17/2015 But it may have been covered when it was dropped. We'll see... He doesn't want Apple to have his old HDD since they don't return it to the owner. and planning in advance. Not clear what you mean there. Apple might not replace it for free and he has to get his own replacement. He currently used almost 200 GB of disk space (Time Machine didn't keep his VMs, big videos, etc. but those were copied (back/cop)ied separately). Thank you in advance. Still smirking. You were warned... As usual. -- Quote of the Week: Allah's Apostle said, "Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient to burn a single ant (that bit you)?'" --Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 54, Number 536 Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
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I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. What type of drop? A big drop or a small drop? I will have to ask if he dropped it hard. And now we have an answer on that drop based on the HDD's SMART logs from his e-mail when I asked him, "... It was in the case and computer bag, I guess was not well protected when the bag fell from my roller luggage. It worked for one day then stopped working..." Another reason for a SSD! I wonder what else broke. :P -- Quote of the Week: Allah's Apostle said, "Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient to burn a single ant (that bit you)?'" --Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 54, Number 536 Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
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Hi. Lo. Ha. La. I had to help a client whose's 13.3" MacBook Pro wouldn't boot up after travelling to another country. We tried to do stuff remotely, but stuff failed like Apple Hardware Test, Safe Mode, etc. This evening, he returned and I checked it out its Disk Utility v13 wouldn't fully verify and repair. So I had to do a Time Machine restore from his external USB2 HDD which took almost three hours to complete (over 161 GB of data). Now, Disk Utility's verifications passed and Mac OS X boots up in both recovery and after logging into restored Mac OS X on HDD. I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. What type of drop? A big drop or a small drop? The SMART report doesn’t say, its just a count. I will have to ask if he dropped it hard. So, I ran a short test and it passed. Long test twice, it failed at 90%. This sounds scary to me. What do you guys think? She's dead Jim, you still into necrophilia ? You love saying that. :P I got that from your NSA report. For now, I told him to use his MBP at his own risk and not to do any more backups to Time Machine drive just in case but do back up to external USB flash drives or so for now. If the drive is dying, No if about it. OK. what is a good replacement in case Apple won't replace it due to recent expired AppleCare on 9/17/2015 But it may have been covered when it was dropped. We'll see... He doesn't want Apple to have his old HDD since they don't return it to the owner. OK, pretty cheap to just buy a new one for the privacy. and planning in advance. Not clear what you mean there. Apple might not replace it for free and he has to get his own replacement. Since he doesn’t want Apple to keep the drive, best to just by a new one. They don’t cost much. He currently used almost 200 GB of disk space (Time Machine didn't keep his VMs, big videos, etc. but those were copied (back/cop)ied separately). Thank you in advance. Still smirking. You were warned... As usual. Just like with the necrophilia. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
"Ant" wrote in message ... ... I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. What type of drop? A big drop or a small drop? I will have to ask if he dropped it hard. And now we have an answer on that drop based on the HDD's SMART logs from his e-mail when I asked him, "... It was in the case and computer bag, I guess was not well protected when the bag fell from my roller luggage. It worked for one day then stopped working..." I've reported him to the RSPCTPPAHDDS, he'll be soorree... Another reason for a SSD! True. I wonder what else broke. :P Likely nothing, its mostly the hard drives that suffer in that situation if there isn't any visible damage. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
I've reported him to the RSPCTPPAHDDS, he'll be soorree...
RSPCTPPAHDDS? Another reason for a SSD! True. I wonder what else broke. :P Likely nothing, its mostly the hard drives that suffer in that situation if there isn't any visible damage. I also told him SSD wouldn't break from that type of drop too. Everything else seems to still work from what we can see. We don't see any external physical damages. -- Quote of the Week: Allah's Apostle said, "Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient to burn a single ant (that bit you)?'" --Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 54, Number 536 Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
Hi.
Lo. Ha. La. Hu. I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. What type of drop? A big drop or a small drop? The SMART report doesn???t say, its just a count. Ah. I will have to ask if he dropped it hard. So, I ran a short test and it passed. Long test twice, it failed at 90%. This sounds scary to me. What do you guys think? She's dead Jim, you still into necrophilia ? You love saying that. :P I got that from your NSA report Prove it. For now, I told him to use his MBP at his own risk and not to do any more backups to Time Machine drive just in case but do back up to external USB flash drives or so for now. If the drive is dying, No if about it. OK. what is a good replacement in case Apple won't replace it due to recent expired AppleCare on 9/17/2015 But it may have been covered when it was dropped. We'll see... He doesn't want Apple to have his old HDD since they don't return it to the owner. OK, pretty cheap to just buy a new one for the privacy. Yeah, he doesn't want his data in the Apple store even if it was encrypted, formatted, DBanned, etc. and planning in advance. Not clear what you mean there. Apple might not replace it for free and he has to get his own replacement. Since he doesn???t want Apple to keep the drive, best to just by a new one. They don???t cost much. Yeah, and Apple would swap with another slow 5400 RPM HDD instead of a SSD. He currently used almost 200 GB of disk space (Time Machine didn't keep his VMs, big videos, etc. but those were copied (back/cop)ied separately). Thank you in advance. Still smirking. You were warned... As usual. Just like with the necrophilia. :P -- Quote of the Week: Allah's Apostle said, "Once while a prophet amongst the prophets was taking a rest underneath a tree, an ant bit him. He, therefore, ordered that his luggage be taken away from underneath that tree and then ordered that the dwelling place of the ants should be set on fire. Allah sent him a revelation: 'Wouldn't it have been sufficient to burn a single ant (that bit you)?'" --Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 54, Number 536 Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
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I've reported him to the RSPCTPPAHDDS, he'll be soorree... RSPCTPPAHDDS? If I told you that I'd have to kill you and you wouldn’t want that. Another reason for a SSD! True. I wonder what else broke. :P Likely nothing, its mostly the hard drives that suffer in that situation if there isn't any visible damage. I also told him SSD wouldn't break from that type of drop too. Everything else seems to still work from what we can see. We don't see any external physical damages. Yeah, if he is that careless, an SSD would be the way to go. And AppleCare to cover it if he drops stuff much. |
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13.3" 2012 MacBook Pro's HDD dying confirmed or not?
Ant wrote
Hi. Lo. Ha. La. Hu. Lu. I did more HDD testings with SMARTreporter (demo). They showed green color, passed, etc. However, I noticed its logs show possible bad signs: http://pastie.org/pastes/10447460/te...2uz2nljbwrznyg ... Absolutely certainly bad signs. Its got an absolute ****load of pending reallocatable sectors, 456, and its clearly been dropped. What type of drop? A big drop or a small drop? The SMART report doesn???t say, its just a count. Ah. There is one undefined field in the SMART report, I spose that might possibly be the max G shock its seen or something. Haven't researched that with that drive tho. I will have to ask if he dropped it hard. So, I ran a short test and it passed. Long test twice, it failed at 90%. This sounds scary to me. What do you guys think? She's dead Jim, you still into necrophilia ? You love saying that. :P I got that from your NSA report Prove it. If I did that, I'd have to kill you, again. For now, I told him to use his MBP at his own risk and not to do any more backups to Time Machine drive just in case but do back up to external USB flash drives or so for now. If the drive is dying, No if about it. OK. what is a good replacement in case Apple won't replace it due to recent expired AppleCare on 9/17/2015 But it may have been covered when it was dropped. We'll see... He doesn't want Apple to have his old HDD since they don't return it to the owner. OK, pretty cheap to just buy a new one for the privacy. Yeah, he doesn't want his data in the Apple store even if it was encrypted, formatted, DBanned, etc. OK, it doesn’t cost much to be that secure. and planning in advance. Not clear what you mean there. Apple might not replace it for free and he has to get his own replacement. Since he doesn't want Apple to keep the drive, best to just by a new one. They don't cost much. Yeah, and Apple would swap with another slow 5400 RPM HDD instead of a SSD. Yeah, makes sense to get a faster SSD and better handling of him dropping stuff. He currently used almost 200 GB of disk space (Time Machine didn't keep his VMs, big videos, etc. but those were copied (back/cop)ied separately). Thank you in advance. Still smirking. You were warned... As usual. Just like with the necrophilia. :P |
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