Hard Drive Problems

I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve

Have you checked the jumpers on the disk drives?
"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve

Are all the drives jumpered CS (Cable Select)? They should be.
HH

"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve

"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve



Be careful of your master/slave configuration. Each IDE channel should
accomodate 2 devices, a master and a slave, on its ribbon cable. Generally
speaking, these devices (drives) have a jumper that defines the status. Your
old drive was undoubtedly a master. If you now make it a slave, you must
change its jumper accordingly. The new drive must also have a jumper that
makes it a master and allows for a slave connection.

Tac

Uh, Compaqs come with Cable Select cables and drives jumpered CS.
HH

"Tacitus" wrote in message
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"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve



Be careful of your master/slave configuration. Each IDE channel should
accomodate 2 devices, a master and a slave, on its ribbon cable. Generally
speaking, these devices (drives) have a jumper that defines the status.
Your
old drive was undoubtedly a master. If you now make it a slave, you must
change its jumper accordingly. The new drive must also have a jumper that
makes it a master and allows for a slave connection.

Tac

But he did install a new drive and it may not have been jumpered to CS.
Never tried having one drive set to master and the 2nd set to cable select
but that could be his problem.

"HH" wrote in message
...
Uh, Compaqs come with Cable Select cables and drives jumpered CS.
HH

"Tacitus" wrote in message
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"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve



Be careful of your master/slave configuration. Each IDE channel should
accomodate 2 devices, a master and a slave, on its ribbon cable.
Generally
speaking, these devices (drives) have a jumper that defines the status.
Your
old drive was undoubtedly a master. If you now make it a slave, you must
change its jumper accordingly. The new drive must also have a jumper
that
makes it a master and allows for a slave connection.

Tac

Yep. That's why I noted all drives should be jumpered CS if the original
cable is used.
HH

"justme" wrote in message
...
But he did install a new drive and it may not have been jumpered to CS.
Never tried having one drive set to master and the 2nd set to cable select
but that could be his problem.

"HH" wrote in message
...
Uh, Compaqs come with Cable Select cables and drives jumpered CS.
HH

"Tacitus" wrote in message
...

"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478.
I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0"
from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve



Be careful of your master/slave configuration. Each IDE channel should
accomodate 2 devices, a master and a slave, on its ribbon cable.
Generally
speaking, these devices (drives) have a jumper that defines the
status.
Your
old drive was undoubtedly a master. If you now make it a slave, you
must
change its jumper accordingly. The new drive must also have a jumper
that
makes it a master and allows for a slave connection.

Tac

The drive is set for cable select.

The old drive seems to have "finished dying" - when it is detected on
boot up, I not only get the message that the disk failure is imminent,
but I also get a message that the disk's controller has failed. I am
very fuzzy on IDE drives (well all drives! LOL) Is there only one
controller on the motherboard, or is a controller part of the
individual IDE drives?

One of the confusing things is that the system "thinks" that what ever
is attached to the "Drive 1" connector is the only drive in the system
and ignores the new hard drive. I get a message that no system file
was detected. When I disconnect the cable from the drive connected as
"Drive 1" - the system detects the new drive and boots.

I sure appreciate all the help.

Steve

"justme" wrote in message ...
Have you checked the jumpers on the disk drives?
"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve

Steve,

The master drive in a two-drive master-slave setup provides the controller
mechanism for the second drive. The IDE (actually I/O) chip on the motherboard
provides minimal intelligence. This is true even with the "cable select" type
of jumpering. With cable select, the cable construction determines which drive
is master and which is slave. If you hold a "cable select" type of IDE cable up
to the light, you will see that one of the wire traces is cut. The the presence
or lack of current on this wire which tells the drive to spin up as master or as
slave... Ben Myers

On 21 May 2004 19:31:53 -0700, (Steve Byers) wrote:

The drive is set for cable select.

The old drive seems to have "finished dying" - when it is detected on
boot up, I not only get the message that the disk failure is imminent,
but I also get a message that the disk's controller has failed. I am
very fuzzy on IDE drives (well all drives! LOL) Is there only one
controller on the motherboard, or is a controller part of the
individual IDE drives?

One of the confusing things is that the system "thinks" that what ever
is attached to the "Drive 1" connector is the only drive in the system
and ignores the new hard drive. I get a message that no system file
was detected. When I disconnect the cable from the drive connected as
"Drive 1" - the system detects the new drive and boots.

I sure appreciate all the help.

Steve

"justme" wrote in message ...
Have you checked the jumpers on the disk drives?
"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario 7478. I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0" from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve

If the new drive is in the master connector (the end connector) and the old
in the middle and the new is jumpered Master and the old CS, it would work.
Wierd, but work.

Sounds like the drive is dying, as you suspected.

Tom
"HH" wrote in message
...
Yep. That's why I noted all drives should be jumpered CS if the original
cable is used.
HH

"justme" wrote in message
...
But he did install a new drive and it may not have been jumpered to CS.
Never tried having one drive set to master and the 2nd set to cable
select
but that could be his problem.

"HH" wrote in message
...
Uh, Compaqs come with Cable Select cables and drives jumpered CS.
HH

"Tacitus" wrote in message
...

"Steve Byers" wrote in message
m...
I recently had to replace the hard drive in my Compaq Presario
7478.
I
have the new hard drive working but have what I think is a strange
problem.

I have connected the new drive to the connector marked "Drive 0"
from
the motherboard, but when I attach the "Drive 1" connector to my
old
hard drive, or to the Zip drive that was in that slot before, the
computer does not find the new drive. The boot configuration only
lists a Drive 2 and no Drive 1. Did I connect a ribbon to the
wrong
mother board spot or what?? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Steve



Be careful of your master/slave configuration. Each IDE channel
should
accomodate 2 devices, a master and a slave, on its ribbon cable.
Generally
speaking, these devices (drives) have a jumper that defines the
status.
Your
old drive was undoubtedly a master. If you now make it a slave, you
must
change its jumper accordingly. The new drive must also have a jumper
that
makes it a master and allows for a slave connection.

Tac