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Old February 28th 04, 01:16 PM
Euclid
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Default S6020WM versus S4020WM (at Walmart)

I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495, complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I had to put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for $495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it is only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid


  #2  
Old February 28th 04, 01:30 PM
doS
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Anyone with any pc knowledge knows that an AMD processor is much faster than
a celeron.Still the walmart celeron pc w/monitor is a great value.


"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495,

complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I had to

put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for $495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it is only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid




  #3  
Old February 28th 04, 01:40 PM
HH
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Apples v. Oranges on the processors. And for what lots of folks use their
PCs for (surfing the net), the Celeron would not be half as fast as the AMD
chip. I have a home-built AMD Athlon XP 2200+ box and it certainly isn't
twice as fast as my 2.4GHz Celeron machine in "real world" use. If you are a
heavy gamer, now that's a different story. The Athlon would certainly be far
superior. Plus the Athlon boxes usually have an AGP slot where a fast video
card can be installed. The Celerons are limited to onboard Intel video.
HH

"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495,

complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I had to

put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for $495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it is only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid




  #4  
Old February 28th 04, 01:48 PM
doS
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I have two Celeron machines( Compaq 5003) that have agp slots.

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Apples v. Oranges on the processors. And for what lots of folks use their
PCs for (surfing the net), the Celeron would not be half as fast as the

AMD
chip. I have a home-built AMD Athlon XP 2200+ box and it certainly isn't
twice as fast as my 2.4GHz Celeron machine in "real world" use. If you are

a
heavy gamer, now that's a different story. The Athlon would certainly be

far
superior. Plus the Athlon boxes usually have an AGP slot where a fast

video
card can be installed. The Celerons are limited to onboard Intel video.
HH

"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495,

complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I had to

put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for

$495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it is

only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid






  #5  
Old February 28th 04, 03:35 PM
HH
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Most do not, however. Which 5003s? The 5003CA and the 5003R both come with
Durons (and AGP slots) and the 5003US with a PIII 933 and no AGP slot.
HH


"doS" wrote in message
...
I have two Celeron machines( Compaq 5003) that have agp slots.

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Apples v. Oranges on the processors. And for what lots of folks use

their
PCs for (surfing the net), the Celeron would not be half as fast as the

AMD
chip. I have a home-built AMD Athlon XP 2200+ box and it certainly isn't
twice as fast as my 2.4GHz Celeron machine in "real world" use. If you

are
a
heavy gamer, now that's a different story. The Athlon would certainly be

far
superior. Plus the Athlon boxes usually have an AGP slot where a fast

video
card can be installed. The Celerons are limited to onboard Intel video.
HH

"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495,

complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I had

to
put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for

$495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must

advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it is

only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed

of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid








  #6  
Old February 28th 04, 04:53 PM
Kevin Childers
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Part of that is a matter of $$$. Lower cost chips in economy class
machines (i.e. onboard everything) good AGP slot video chips aren't cheap.
Celerons originally where not recommended for such machines as most borrowed
CPU cycles for other onboard devices. Several peripheral manufactures even
warned against installing their cards to such machines since they knew that
the early celerons weren't up to the task of having their products load
added to the existing demands placed on the CPU. Celerons have gotten
better as well as the peripherals so the load is less and the CPU has gained
enough power to handle the basic demands placed upon it. With any PC the
more the add-ons and peripherals handle them selves the less load placed on
the CPU. This leaves it free to handle software and user interface
processes at a better speed.

If you should ever get the chance, try running a P90 with 8 Mb of RAM
and a set of cheap cards all stealing CPU cycles for their processing. Then
upgrade it to all top end PCI cards for the peripherals and finally stepping
the RAM up one level at a time to a max of 256 Mb. As you swap out the
cards you will slowly notice the improved performance when the CPU doesn't
have to support audio/video/modem...

KC


"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Most do not, however. Which 5003s? The 5003CA and the 5003R both come with
Durons (and AGP slots) and the 5003US with a PIII 933 and no AGP slot.
HH


"doS" wrote in message
...
I have two Celeron machines( Compaq 5003) that have agp slots.

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Apples v. Oranges on the processors. And for what lots of folks use

their
PCs for (surfing the net), the Celeron would not be half as fast as

the
AMD
chip. I have a home-built AMD Athlon XP 2200+ box and it certainly

isn't
twice as fast as my 2.4GHz Celeron machine in "real world" use. If you

are
a
heavy gamer, now that's a different story. The Athlon would certainly

be
far
superior. Plus the Athlon boxes usually have an AGP slot where a fast

video
card can be installed. The Celerons are limited to onboard Intel

video.
HH

"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495,
complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I

had
to
put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for

$495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must

advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it

is
only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed

of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch

of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid










  #7  
Old February 28th 04, 08:29 PM
doS
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HH, my mistake, I have the 5300US. Celeron 1.1

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Most do not, however. Which 5003s? The 5003CA and the 5003R both come with
Durons (and AGP slots) and the 5003US with a PIII 933 and no AGP slot.
HH


"doS" wrote in message
...
I have two Celeron machines( Compaq 5003) that have agp slots.

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Apples v. Oranges on the processors. And for what lots of folks use

their
PCs for (surfing the net), the Celeron would not be half as fast as

the
AMD
chip. I have a home-built AMD Athlon XP 2200+ box and it certainly

isn't
twice as fast as my 2.4GHz Celeron machine in "real world" use. If you

are
a
heavy gamer, now that's a different story. The Athlon would certainly

be
far
superior. Plus the Athlon boxes usually have an AGP slot where a fast

video
card can be installed. The Celerons are limited to onboard Intel

video.
HH

"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for $495,
complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I

had
to
put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart for

$495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must

advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it

is
only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative speed

of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current batch

of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid










  #8  
Old February 28th 04, 09:52 PM
HH
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Ah... I see....The first Presario Celerys with an AGP slot I've run across.
I see why, too. The 815E chipset. Should be able to stick in a 133MHz PIII.
HH

"doS" wrote in message
...
HH, my mistake, I have the 5300US. Celeron 1.1

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Most do not, however. Which 5003s? The 5003CA and the 5003R both come

with
Durons (and AGP slots) and the 5003US with a PIII 933 and no AGP slot.
HH


"doS" wrote in message
...
I have two Celeron machines( Compaq 5003) that have agp slots.

"HH" wrote in message
. net...
Apples v. Oranges on the processors. And for what lots of folks use

their
PCs for (surfing the net), the Celeron would not be half as fast as

the
AMD
chip. I have a home-built AMD Athlon XP 2200+ box and it certainly

isn't
twice as fast as my 2.4GHz Celeron machine in "real world" use. If

you
are
a
heavy gamer, now that's a different story. The Athlon would

certainly
be
far
superior. Plus the Athlon boxes usually have an AGP slot where a

fast
video
card can be installed. The Celerons are limited to onboard Intel

video.
HH

"Euclid" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I bought a Compaq Presario S4020WM at Walmart last summer for

$495,
complete
with a 17" monitor. It has an AMD XP 2400+ processor at 2.0GHz. I

had
to
put
in more RAM to make it work right, but it's a good machine.

They're currently selling the Compaq Presario S6020WM at Walmart

for
$495
with a monitor, but these have a Celeron 2.6GHz processor. I must

advise
against purchase of this one. I have tested that processor, and it

is
only
half as fast as my AMD processor running at 2.0 GHz.

Don't be deceived by "GHz", which no longer tells the relative

speed
of
processors. That's a game Intel is playing with their current

batch
of
Celerons. They realize there's a sucker born every minute.
--
Euclid












 




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