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Old October 22nd 06, 08:45 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.cdr
Mike Richter
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Default Force "medium present" or "device ready"?

wrote:
Hello

Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD that the drive
it was burnt with will not recognise?

The DVD was written with Nero 7 at 4x and UDF 1.2 was used because it
is one big file of 4.3GB. The drive is Lite-on DVDRW LDW-811S.
This only happens to some discs. I do not think it is brand dependant
becuase sometimes it happens and sometimes everything is ok using the
same medium. I am using Sony and Verbatim so it's not the worst I
should think. Nero verified the discs so that is why I thought
everything was ok and deleted the files after burning.

Does anyone know what is happening or if there is any way to force the
drive to read the medium it thinks is not there? I can use linux if
that is better. I have tried it in one other drive, but that drive
have issues of it's own. Still I think the disc really is ok if it
could only be recognised. Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler
since without this problem so I am guessing the problem is Nero.
Still would like my backups back though.


Since the file verifies, it was readable (though not necessarily
correct) when written. The easiest explanation is that the writing was
marginal and that when the drive cooled, the directory could not be
read. I gather that the disc is recognized by the drive with problems,
though it cannot be read correctly. The simplest conclusion is that the
drive is poorly written (has many errors) and isn't readable when the
drive is cool.

The simplest solution would be to install a DVD-ROM drive that reads the
disc, then try to get a good transfer of the file to the HD. Then you
can try writing it on a reliable blank and check that for errors. If the
current drive doesn't know that the disc is present, there's no way to
change its mind about that.

It would be interesting to know what Disc Info reports; does it think
the disc is present but blank or not present at all. Obviously, the disc
was recognized as present when it was written.

Mike
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Old October 22nd 06, 09:21 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.cdr
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Default Force "medium present" or "device ready"?

Hello

Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD that the drive
it was burnt with will not recognise?

The DVD was written with Nero 7 at 4x and UDF 1.2 was used because it
is one big file of 4.3GB. The drive is Lite-on DVDRW LDW-811S.
This only happens to some discs. I do not think it is brand dependant
becuase sometimes it happens and sometimes everything is ok using the
same medium. I am using Sony and Verbatim so it's not the worst I
should think. Nero verified the discs so that is why I thought
everything was ok and deleted the files after burning.

Does anyone know what is happening or if there is any way to force the
drive to read the medium it thinks is not there? I can use linux if
that is better. I have tried it in one other drive, but that drive
have issues of it's own. Still I think the disc really is ok if it
could only be recognised. Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler
since without this problem so I am guessing the problem is Nero.
Still would like my backups back though.


Cheers
NYB

Thanks for any input.
  #3  
Old October 22nd 06, 11:15 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.cdr
smh
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Default Force "medium present" or "device ready"?

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

wrote:

Hello

Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD that the drive
it was burnt with will not recognise?

The DVD was written with Nero 7 at 4x and UDF 1.2 was used because it
is one big file of 4.3GB. The drive is Lite-on DVDRW LDW-811S.
This only happens to some discs. I do not think it is brand dependant
becuase sometimes it happens and sometimes everything is ok using the
same medium. I am using Sony and Verbatim so it's not the worst I
should think. Nero verified the discs so that is why I thought
everything was ok and deleted the files after burning.

Does anyone know what is happening or if there is any way to force the
drive to read the medium it thinks is not there? I can use linux if
that is better. I have tried it in one other drive, but that drive
have issues of it's own. Still I think the disc really is ok if it
could only be recognised. Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler
since without this problem so I am guessing the problem is Nero.
Still would like my backups back though.


There were sprinkles of reports of Nero verify giving false negative,
but AFAIK, there was no false positive like your case. What's the Nero
7's full version number? Perhaps you try Nero 6?

As for the recovery, try IsoBuster - run it first and then insert the
disc.
http://www.isobuster.com
..

================================================== =
Mike Richter - the Slimiest Lying Friggin SOB (UDF)
================================================== =

The slimiest lying friggin SOB Mike Richter has been for YEARS
blaming the UDF -- to weasel out the bugs of DirectCD:

------------------------------------------
UDF is a fragile format
UDF is an unreliable format

the format is very fragile and unreliable
The format is bad - it loses data
The fault is not with the software but with the format

There is an inherent problem in UDF
Packet writing is the same as UDF.

I have used only DCD for packet writing,
have had no problems due to the software
- but too many due to the format itself

to bother with it any longer.
------------------------------------------

But then again:

======================
From: Mike Richter (the Slimiest Lying Friggin ****)
Date: 5/4/06
Subject: UDF Has just bit me in the bum

I have used UDF for many years, but yesterday I had my first
corruption. I am now wondering whether to bother with UDF


First, your problem is not with UDF
======================

-------------------------------
Wow! What a slimy friggin SOB!
----------------------------------------------
Mikey, you are the Slimiest Lying Friggin SOB!
----------------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)
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Old October 22nd 06, 11:16 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.cdr
smh
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Default Force "medium present" or "device ready"?

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

Mike Richter (the Slimiest Lying Friggin ****) crapped:


Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD that
the drive it was burnt with will not recognise?

The DVD was written with Nero 7
The drive is Lite-on DVDRW LDW-811S.

This only happens to some discs. I do not think it is brand dependant
becuase sometimes it happens and sometimes everything is ok using the
same medium.

Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler since
without this problem so I am guessing the problem is Nero.
.


Since the file verifies, it was readable (though not necessarily
correct) when written. The easiest explanation is that the writing was
marginal and that when the drive cooled, the directory could not be
read.


Ashampoo and Discjuggler must have built-in air conditioner:

Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler since
without this problem

I gather that the disc is recognized by the drive with problems


Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD
that the drive it was burnt with will not recognise?


snip the rest of crap

..
----------------------------------------------
Mikey, you are the Slimiest Lying Friggin SOB!
----------------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)
  #6  
Old October 23rd 06, 12:12 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.cdr
smh
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Posts: 279
Default Built-in Air Conditioner w/ Burn Software?

.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

Mike Richter (the Slimiest Lying Friggin ****) crapped:


Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD that
the drive it was burnt with will not recognise?

The DVD was written with Nero 7
The drive is Lite-on DVDRW LDW-811S.

This only happens to some discs. I do not think it is brand dependant
becuase sometimes it happens and sometimes everything is ok using the
same medium.

Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler since
without this problem so I am guessing the problem is Nero.
.


Since the file verifies, it was readable (though not necessarily
correct) when written. The easiest explanation is that the writing was
marginal and that when the drive cooled, the directory could not be
read.


Ashampoo and Discjuggler must have built-in air conditioner:

Have been using Ashampoo and Discjuggler since
without this problem

I gather that the disc is recognized by the drive with problems


Does anyone know how if there is a way to access a DVD
that the drive it was burnt with will not recognise?


snip the rest of crap

..
----------------------------------------------
Mikey, you are the Slimiest Lying Friggin SOB!
----------------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)
 




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