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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
Jethro wrote:
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for that Driver. Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling
wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Oh well.... Thanks again. Please don't give up on me. I still have not been able to get anyone to admit that they ever got this scanner to run on WXP! Jethro |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
Jethro wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. You seem to have forgotten the list of files under Driver Details. Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. Sounds good! And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. aspichk.exe is just a utility that brings up a graphics display (or should). It doesn't install anything. I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Hopefully with the original .inf and not the one you modified. Also hopefully showing a IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device afterwards that will reveal a list of files in the Driver Details tab. Oh well.... Thanks again. Please don't give up on me. I still have not been able to get anyone to admit that they ever got this scanner to run on WXP! Why would they be here if they didn't have any trouble? They're merrily scanning away. vbg Bob |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:25:46 -0700, Robert Heiling
wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. You seem to have forgotten the list of files under Driver Details. I don't see a file list under 'details' for the driver in Device Manager. I see a pull down window with several selectable's the first of which is 'Device Instance Id'. I must be in the wrong place. Where? Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. Sounds good! And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. aspichk.exe is just a utility that brings up a graphics display (or should). It doesn't install anything. I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Hopefully with the original .inf and not the one you modified. Also hopefully showing a IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device afterwards that will reveal a list of files in the Driver Details tab. Oh well.... Thanks again. Please don't give up on me. I still have not been able to get anyone to admit that they ever got this scanner to run on WXP! Why would they be here if they didn't have any trouble? They're merrily scanning away. vbg Bob |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
Jethro wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:25:46 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. You seem to have forgotten the list of files under Driver Details. I don't see a file list under 'details' for the driver in Device Manager. I see a pull down window with several selectable's the first of which is 'Device Instance Id'. I must be in the wrong place. Where? I run Win2k and linux on this machine and Win2k is close to XP but not exact in the way that is done. So I went upstairs to the XP machine as I had done earlier to make sure the info was available. No UMAX on that one, but no matter. This time I mentally noted the details. You've obviously been getting to Device Manager, so starting with that screen up, I choose any device, right-click and select Properties. Then click the Driver tab. Then click Driver Details. There will hopefully be a list of files. Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. Sounds good! And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. aspichk.exe is just a utility that brings up a graphics display (or should). It doesn't install anything. I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Hopefully with the original .inf and not the one you modified. Also hopefully showing a IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device afterwards that will reveal a list of files in the Driver Details tab. The exercise we're going through now will be shooting at a moving target and a waste of time if this isn't a fresh install using the original installation files. Bob |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:50:01 -0700, Robert Heiling
wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:25:46 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. You seem to have forgotten the list of files under Driver Details. I don't see a file list under 'details' for the driver in Device Manager. I see a pull down window with several selectable's the first of which is 'Device Instance Id'. I must be in the wrong place. Where? I run Win2k and linux on this machine and Win2k is close to XP but not exact in the way that is done. So I went upstairs to the XP machine as I had done earlier to make sure the info was available. No UMAX on that one, but no matter. This time I mentally noted the details. You've obviously been getting to Device Manager, so starting with that screen up, I choose any device, right-click and select Properties. Then click the Driver tab. Then click Driver Details. There will hopefully be a list of files. Yes, I am operating within Device Manager, which has three scanner-related entries: 1 - A firewire entry: 'IEEE 1394 Bus host controller' under which is: 'VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device' which it says is working properly. 2 - A Imaging Devices entry: 'UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device' WHICH IS FLAGGED YELLOW! and shows that 'the drivers for this device are not installed (code 28)' and which when I try to re-install the driver, it says it failed, saying: 'THERE WAS A PROBLEM INSTALLING THIS HARDWARE'. 3 - A 'SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices' entry under which is: 'SBP2 Compliant IEEE 1394 Device' which it says is working properly. For the yellow-flagged entry, I was going to PropertiesDetails yesterday, which was wrong. Now I am at PropertiesDriverDriver Details. It says: 'No driver files are required or have been loaded for this device'. I checked the other two Device Manager driver entries, and sure enough there are file names there under, 5 under the first, 1394bus.sys asp1394.sys enum1394.sys nic1394.sys ohci1394.sys 1 under the third. sbp2port.sys Does all this show anything revealing? Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. Sounds good! And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. aspichk.exe is just a utility that brings up a graphics display (or should). It doesn't install anything. I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Hopefully with the original .inf and not the one you modified. Also hopefully showing a IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device afterwards that will reveal a list of files in the Driver Details tab. The exercise we're going through now will be shooting at a moving target and a waste of time if this isn't a fresh install using the original installation files. I agree. But I did just that, I think. I began yesterday's efforts by removing all prior work (except removing the driver from Device manager - which I could not do for some reason), and then re-did everything, including trying to re-install the driver in Device Manager. Thanks again Jethro Bob |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
Jethro wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:50:01 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:25:46 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. You seem to have forgotten the list of files under Driver Details. I don't see a file list under 'details' for the driver in Device Manager. I see a pull down window with several selectable's the first of which is 'Device Instance Id'. I must be in the wrong place. Where? I run Win2k and linux on this machine and Win2k is close to XP but not exact in the way that is done. So I went upstairs to the XP machine as I had done earlier to make sure the info was available. No UMAX on that one, but no matter. This time I mentally noted the details. You've obviously been getting to Device Manager, so starting with that screen up, I choose any device, right-click and select Properties. Then click the Driver tab. Then click Driver Details. There will hopefully be a list of files. Yes, I am operating within Device Manager, which has three scanner-related entries: 1 - A firewire entry: 'IEEE 1394 Bus host controller' under which is: 'VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device' which it says is working properly. 2 - A Imaging Devices entry: 'UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device' WHICH IS FLAGGED YELLOW! and shows that 'the drivers for this device are not installed (code 28)' and which when I try to re-install the driver, it says it failed, saying: 'THERE WAS A PROBLEM INSTALLING THIS HARDWARE'. 3 - A 'SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices' entry under which is: 'SBP2 Compliant IEEE 1394 Device' which it says is working properly. For the yellow-flagged entry, I was going to PropertiesDetails yesterday, which was wrong. Now I am at PropertiesDriverDriver Details. It says: 'No driver files are required or have been loaded for this device'. Windows thinks you enjoy being lied to like that? I checked the other two Device Manager driver entries, and sure enough there are file names there under, 5 under the first, 1394bus.sys asp1394.sys enum1394.sys nic1394.sys ohci1394.sys 1 under the third. sbp2port.sys Does all this show anything revealing? At least we know the extent of the damage. Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. Sounds good! And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. aspichk.exe is just a utility that brings up a graphics display (or should). It doesn't install anything. I'm still scratching my head over that one. aspichk.exe doesn't ask for a re-boot. Are we talking about the same module or did you get one with a different spelling? I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Hopefully with the original .inf and not the one you modified. Also hopefully showing a IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device afterwards that will reveal a list of files in the Driver Details tab. The exercise we're going through now will be shooting at a moving target and a waste of time if this isn't a fresh install using the original installation files. I agree. But I did just that, I think. I began yesterday's efforts by removing all prior work (except removing the driver from Device manager - which I could not do for some reason), and then re-did everything, including trying to re-install the driver in Device Manager. I guess that it's time for a little hacking. There are some readme notes I left in my Windows from when I was going through this same hassle with my system and maybe the following will work for your system. Go to Disk2 on that installation set and locate the file UMAXUSD2.INF. Place a copy of it in your C:\Windows\inf folder. Rename it to umax.inf and then right-click on it and choose the Install option. Our next step will be determined by what happens then. Bob |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
Robert Heiling wrote:
I guess that it's time for a little hacking. There are some readme notes I left in my Windows from when I was going through this same hassle with my system and maybe the following will work for your system. Go to Disk2 on that installation set and locate the file UMAXUSD2.INF. Place a copy of it in your C:\Windows\inf folder. Rename it to umax.inf and then right-click on it and choose the Install option. Our next step will be determined by what happens then. On second thought, re-boot first after the rename and before clicking that Install. It may not make any difference, but no harm in booting. Bob |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:21:21 -0700, Robert Heiling
wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:50:01 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:25:46 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:56:28 -0700, Robert Heiling wrote: Jethro wrote: On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:45:13 -0400, (Paul) wrote: So, the question is, do you have an Imaging_Device in Device Manager ? Is it labelled 1394_Scanner ? Yes, but it is flagged yellow. The entry reads: UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device That's looking like it installed and 'only' has some problem. Apparently the "6450" is just an external identification and it is still technically a 6400 at heart. It might be helpful to know what modules are listed under Details for SBP2\UMAX&ASTRA_6400_______&LUN0\00102B1170029CC that Driver. You seem to have forgotten the list of files under Driver Details. I don't see a file list under 'details' for the driver in Device Manager. I see a pull down window with several selectable's the first of which is 'Device Instance Id'. I must be in the wrong place. Where? I run Win2k and linux on this machine and Win2k is close to XP but not exact in the way that is done. So I went upstairs to the XP machine as I had done earlier to make sure the info was available. No UMAX on that one, but no matter. This time I mentally noted the details. You've obviously been getting to Device Manager, so starting with that screen up, I choose any device, right-click and select Properties. Then click the Driver tab. Then click Driver Details. There will hopefully be a list of files. Yes, I am operating within Device Manager, which has three scanner-related entries: 1 - A firewire entry: 'IEEE 1394 Bus host controller' under which is: 'VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device' which it says is working properly. 2 - A Imaging Devices entry: 'UMAX Astra 6400 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device' WHICH IS FLAGGED YELLOW! and shows that 'the drivers for this device are not installed (code 28)' and which when I try to re-install the driver, it says it failed, saying: 'THERE WAS A PROBLEM INSTALLING THIS HARDWARE'. 3 - A 'SBP2 IEEE 1394 Devices' entry under which is: 'SBP2 Compliant IEEE 1394 Device' which it says is working properly. For the yellow-flagged entry, I was going to PropertiesDetails yesterday, which was wrong. Now I am at PropertiesDriverDriver Details. It says: 'No driver files are required or have been loaded for this device'. Windows thinks you enjoy being lied to like that? GOOD MORNING! Wouldn't be the first time, would it? I checked the other two Device Manager driver entries, and sure enough there are file names there under, 5 under the first, 1394bus.sys asp1394.sys enum1394.sys nic1394.sys ohci1394.sys 1 under the third. sbp2port.sys Does all this show anything revealing? At least we know the extent of the damage. Easy for U to say. Also, can you search and find a SCSISCAN.SYS anywhere in the Windows folder? Yes - scsiscan.sys exists at c:\windows\system32\drivers. Sounds good! And planning ahead: If you have a DVD burner and use software like Nero or similar installed, then you would already have aspi installed. If not, you are going to need it. Get aspichk.exe from the website at: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm Run that to check the current condition of aspi on your system. Yes I do - Nero. but I found aspichk under a different CDRW application, so I downloaded and executed the file at http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm After re-boot (as per instructions), I did another search for aspichk.exe. I see it nowhere additional except of course the downloaded file. aspichk.exe is just a utility that brings up a graphics display (or should). It doesn't install anything. I'm still scratching my head over that one. aspichk.exe doesn't ask for a re-boot. Are we talking about the same module or did you get one with a different spelling? I downloaded 179KB file ForceASPI_v17.zip from http://radified.com/Files/ForceASPI_v17.zip and un-zipped it to get: 3 folders WIN9X WINNT HTML plus 8 files including 112KB file aspichk,exe and instaspi.bat. I executed the latter DOS batch file and it seemed to run okay, after which it actually says to reboot your PC to 'make the changes active', and to 'press continue' to do it - which I did. Hence the re-boot. The batch file showed four files added to c:\windows: winaspi.dll wowpost.exe winaspi32,dll aspi32.sys plus 'add registry settings' 'Done!' Anyway - after re-boot. I do not see any aspichk.exe except for the one in the unzipped folder that had the batch file I executed above. When I execute it, I get a window showing that 'version 4.6 of ASPI is properly installed', and is 'fully operational' and shows all four files listed above (winaspi.dll etc). Again, just now, I tried to re-install the scanner driver in Device Manager. and it failed same as before. I tried to re-install the scanner driver anyhow, with the same negative results. Hopefully with the original .inf and not the one you modified. Also hopefully showing a IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device afterwards that will reveal a list of files in the Driver Details tab. The exercise we're going through now will be shooting at a moving target and a waste of time if this isn't a fresh install using the original installation files. I agree. But I did just that, I think. I began yesterday's efforts by removing all prior work (except removing the driver from Device manager - which I could not do for some reason), and then re-did everything, including trying to re-install the driver in Device Manager. I guess that it's time for a little hacking. There are some readme notes I left in my Windows from when I was going through this same hassle with my system and maybe the following will work for your system. Go to Disk2 on that installation set and locate the file UMAXUSD2.INF. Place a copy of it in your C:\Windows\inf folder. Rename it to umax.inf and then right-click on it and choose the Install Done. I renamed it too, option. Our next step will be determined by what happens then. Done. The screen just 'blinked', but did not show a window or message or anything else. I will remain in this position until I hear back. Thanks Jethro |
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Different approach on my UMAX ASTRA 6450 problem
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:35:00 -0700, Robert Heiling
wrote: Robert Heiling wrote: I guess that it's time for a little hacking. There are some readme notes I left in my Windows from when I was going through this same hassle with my system and maybe the following will work for your system. Go to Disk2 on that installation set and locate the file UMAXUSD2.INF. Place a copy of it in your C:\Windows\inf folder. Rename it to umax.inf and then right-click on it and choose the Install option. Our next step will be determined by what happens then. On second thought, re-boot first after the rename and before clicking that Install. It may not make any difference, but no harm in booting. I just spotted this post. I re-booted, then executed an install of umax.inf with same non-results. I.E. the screen blinks and that's all. Jethro |
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