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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
"Ian D" wrote:
"Terry Pinnell" wrote in message .. . For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK Did you install the Logitech Setpoint drivers? An on screen message is displayed when Capslock, Numlock, F mode, etc are toggled. Also, MSFS is run with Numlock off, so you could set the BIOS to make that the default. Guess I didn't then, as I get no such messages. But the tool suggested by GlowingBlueMist does the job even better. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
kony wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:06 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote: For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) Can your macro do this on an overlay as the game is using? If not it would seem likely the game screen would minimize destroying the playability. Therefore I suspect it would have to be an indicator inbuilt to the game code, and that the easiest solution would be having a second keyboard around for gaming. Wired keyboards also have less lag making game control more responsive, though I suspect it matters less on Flight Simulator than it might on some fast(er) paced games. Before seeing GlowingBlueMist's suggestion and installing that handy tool I actually got stuck in and wrote the macro, which works fine. On using a hotkey combination (had to look hard for one still unused by FSX!) it pops up a small message window headed 'NUMLOCK Status' containing either 'ON' or 'OFF', and I then hit Enter (or click OK) to close it. That appears on top of whatever FSX window is active. I found it quite helpful, especially as I'm a raw FSX beginner (and have also installed an add-on called DBS Walk And Follow which also makes use of NumPad, but quite differently to FSX!), but it's now redundant of course. It's far better to see the status at a glance at any time. Could have used that couple of hours yesterday learning to fly instead ;-) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
"Terry Pinnell" wrote in message
... "GlowingBlueMist" wrote: "Terry Pinnell" wrote in message . .. For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK I have not tried this program but here is a link to a freeware program that puts indicators in the system tray, next to the clock, that might help you out. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/systrayindicator.html Exactly what I wanted, thank you! (At present, directly after installation, all 3 indicators - Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock - are together in System Tray, at the left of the existing ones. That's ideal, so hope that arrangement survives reboots.) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK If the program needs to be started each time you reboot and it is a .COM or ..EXE program you can put a shortcut to it in: "C:\Documents and Settings\(your user account name)\Start Menu\Programs\Startup" folder and it will be run every time your computer gets rebooted. This will activate the program for just this user profile. If you want it to be run regardless of which user logs into the system you would put it in the startup folder of the "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup" folder. |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
"GlowingBlueMist" wrote:
"Terry Pinnell" wrote in message .. . "GlowingBlueMist" wrote: "Terry Pinnell" wrote in message ... For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK I have not tried this program but here is a link to a freeware program that puts indicators in the system tray, next to the clock, that might help you out. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/systrayindicator.html Exactly what I wanted, thank you! (At present, directly after installation, all 3 indicators - Num Lock, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock - are together in System Tray, at the left of the existing ones. That's ideal, so hope that arrangement survives reboots.) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK If the program needs to be started each time you reboot and it is a .COM or .EXE program you can put a shortcut to it in: "C:\Documents and Settings\(your user account name)\Start Menu\Programs\Startup" folder and it will be run every time your computer gets rebooted. This will activate the program for just this user profile. If you want it to be run regardless of which user logs into the system you would put it in the startup folder of the "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Startup" folder. Thanks. It's odd. In the settings for Systray Indicator I had yesterday enabled 'Launch Systray Indicator at Windows startup'. This morning my PC had rebooted automatically (to complete a Windows Update) but the 3 tray icons were not displayed. (I have re-displayed them by re-starting Systray Indicator.) The option is still enabled, but it has not placed an entry in either of the Startup folders. Nor can I see it in Autoruns. I've emailed the author, as that seems a minr bug. I'll add it to Startup (all) myself. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
"K3" wrote:
Have you tried "NumCapsScroll Indicator" http://www.vasileios.gr/freesoft/num_caps_scroll.htm What I like most is that it's a single icon (instead of three) in the systray . Great, thanks Kendall, that's even better. Duly installed, replacing SystemTray Indicator. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:06 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:
For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) I had the same problem, only with the capslock. We are using an accounting/business package that requires we use caps for everything. Don't ask, it's a PITA but the package works really well. I wrote a program that allows one to turn caps on or off as is required. We start our program from a batch file then that sets the key state first and then calls the program, and turns caps off on exit. If you think this would be helpful I could reprogram for NumLock, it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to do. This way you'd be sure the NumLock is set before the program starts, should be transparent to you then. Let me know if this is something you'd like and I'll work it up as soon as I can. -- HK |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
H-Man wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:06 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote: For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) I had the same problem, only with the capslock. We are using an accounting/business package that requires we use caps for everything. Don't ask, it's a PITA but the package works really well. I wrote a program that allows one to turn caps on or off as is required. We start our program from a batch file then that sets the key state first and then calls the program, and turns caps off on exit. If you think this would be helpful I could reprogram for NumLock, it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to do. This way you'd be sure the NumLock is set before the program starts, should be transparent to you then. Let me know if this is something you'd like and I'll work it up as soon as I can. Thanks H-Man, appreciate the kind offer. You probably missed K3's suggestion and my reply. That neat little program is doing the job sweetly here. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
kony, 5/27/2008,12:12:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:25:01 -0400, "badgolferman" wrote: This is exactly the way my Microsoft wireless keyboard operates. There is an onscreen display the comes on momentarily to show the CAPS LOCK on NUM LOCK has been depressed. I haven't changed the batteries in the keyboard or mouse since I bought the set, been more than 6 months. My only gripe is there is no way to enter the BIOS or SAFE MODE without a wired keyboard. No board should need a wired keyboard for bios or safe mode. See if there is a USB keyboard setting in the bios, and if not you should be able to use a wireless PS2 (or some USB keyboards can use a PS2-USB adapter). Uhh, how do I get in the BIOS with my keyboard now? |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
On Fri, 30 May 2008 15:17:42 -0400, "badgolferman"
wrote: kony, 5/27/2008,12:12:53 PM, wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:25:01 -0400, "badgolferman" wrote: This is exactly the way my Microsoft wireless keyboard operates. There is an onscreen display the comes on momentarily to show the CAPS LOCK on NUM LOCK has been depressed. I haven't changed the batteries in the keyboard or mouse since I bought the set, been more than 6 months. My only gripe is there is no way to enter the BIOS or SAFE MODE without a wired keyboard. No board should need a wired keyboard for bios or safe mode. See if there is a USB keyboard setting in the bios, and if not you should be able to use a wireless PS2 (or some USB keyboards can use a PS2-USB adapter). Uhh, how do I get in the BIOS with my keyboard now? That's the catch, you have to hook up another keyboard to do it, assuming the bios has such a setting which has been fairly common for the past few years, or if you have a PS2 adapter and the keyboard can use one, try that. |
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Wireless KB - no Numlock indicator
On Fri, 30 May 2008 19:28:46 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:
H-Man wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:05:06 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote: For my new PC I chose a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. A poor choice now that I realise it obviously has no Numlock LED indicator due to the battery limitation. I've just installed MS Flight Simulator, a birthday present from my son. Its flying controls vary significantly depending on whether Numlock is enabled or not. Anyone know of a simple way I can access the Numlock status please? I could then write a macro to toggle a small message window. Or maybe there's a freeware program that does this simple job? That would be marginally preferable to pressing Numlock to see what happens to my aircraft ;-) I had the same problem, only with the capslock. We are using an accounting/business package that requires we use caps for everything. Don't ask, it's a PITA but the package works really well. I wrote a program that allows one to turn caps on or off as is required. We start our program from a batch file then that sets the key state first and then calls the program, and turns caps off on exit. If you think this would be helpful I could reprogram for NumLock, it wouldn't be too terribly difficult to do. This way you'd be sure the NumLock is set before the program starts, should be transparent to you then. Let me know if this is something you'd like and I'll work it up as soon as I can. Thanks H-Man, appreciate the kind offer. You probably missed K3's suggestion and my reply. That neat little program is doing the job sweetly here. Okay, no sweat. I modified the program I had done earlier to cover the num lock and scroll lock keys anyway. It started out as a simple play exercise. If you started the Flight Simulator with a batch file or a cmd script, you could guarantee that the NUMLOCK was definitely off when you started the program, you would not have to make the adjustment. Either way, if you have a solution that works for you, that is the main thing. Cheers, have a great weekend. -- HK |
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