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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
I've seen one person post at HardOCP that they were refused activation of OEM XP. He did get it activated by calling back and talking to someone else but with retail upgrade XP I don't have to be concernedd about that ever happening. An extra twenty bucks is nothing to me. Last I checked, OEM XP Pro SP2 was about 60 bucks less than Upgrade OEM XP Pro SP2, at newegg prices. -Dave |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
It's odd that microsoft allows this, then. They don't, people lie when they call to get OEM XP activated and just say it is on the same PC. Define "the same PC". According to Microsoft's definition, if your mainboard changes brands, your mainboard changes chipsets, your CPU changes brands (intel/amd or amd/intel), and your hard drive was replaced, it is still the same PC. -Dave |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
but with retail upgrade XP I don't have to be concernedd about
that ever happening. An extra twenty bucks is nothing to me. Last I checked, OEM XP Pro SP2 was about 60 bucks less than Upgrade OEM XP Pro SP2, at newegg prices. -Dave Nothing times three is still nothing. / |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
"John Doe" wrote in message ... but with retail upgrade XP I don't have to be concernedd about that ever happening. An extra twenty bucks is nothing to me. Last I checked, OEM XP Pro SP2 was about 60 bucks less than Upgrade OEM XP Pro SP2, at newegg prices. -Dave Nothing times three is still nothing. / three times the air volume....... |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
Crispy Critter wrote
Rod Speed wrote Crispy Critter wrote Mike T. wrote It's odd that microsoft allows this, then. They don't, people lie when they call to get OEM XP activated and just say it is on the same PC. Wrong, as always. OK, in your case you probably say my HDD got infected with a virus. Pathetic, really. There are many BS reasons one can give but if you're smart you don't tell the truth. Wrong, as always. I know of one other person besides the one I already mentioned who was almost refused a reactivation for telling the truth. The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample' Retail Upgrade version is the way to go you cheap bastages. Depends entirely on the price difference, cretin. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:14:58 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
Matt wrote: Mike T. wrote: date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost) ================================================== ============== 1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50 2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20 2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6 If you want MS Office or even just MS Word, the numbers get a lot worse. That indicates an increasing motivation to use free software, especially for big installations. Where can you get Vista for only $100? That's a heckuva bargain, considering some versions cost well over three hundred bucks, or so the experts claim in their reviews . . . -Dave Question is---how much is OEM Vista going to cost Dell or HP when they put it on a new system? My guess was $100---maybe about twice what they used to pay for XP. Somebody please improve on my guess by posting a link. No one knows yet because it aint being shipped yet. So there can be no link. As you like to say, "bare faced lie". http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2012348,00.asp That was as of 5 Sept. 2006 -- __________________________________________________ _ Jack Conners Good judgement comes with experience. Unfortunately a lot of that comes from bad judgement. Xubuntu 6.10 |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
J. Conners wrote
Rod Speed wrote Matt wrote Mike T. wrote date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost) ================================================ 1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50 2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20 2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6 If you want MS Office or even just MS Word, the numbers get a lot worse. That indicates an increasing motivation to use free software, especially for big installations. Where can you get Vista for only $100? That's a heckuva bargain, considering some versions cost well over three hundred bucks, or so the experts claim in their reviews . . . Question is---how much is OEM Vista going to cost Dell or HP when they put it on a new system? My guess was $100---maybe about twice what they used to pay for XP. Somebody please improve on my guess by posting a link. No one knows yet because it aint being shipped yet. So there can be no link. As you like to say, "bare faced lie". We'll see... And it aint a lie if its just wrong. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2012348,00.asp Useless on that question of what it will cost Dell or HP when they put it on a new system. That was as of 5 Sept. 2006 Still useless on the price being discussed. |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:48:41 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:
Brian wrote: On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:25:03 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote: Brian wrote: On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:12:22 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote: Windows is good for games. It's a gamer's OS. Linux is ideal for people who use their computer for non-trivial pursuits. If you don't care about World Of Warcraft or Half-Life 2, then you don't need Windows at all. Heh, hell, if you want to, you can run World of Warcraft in Linux, I do daily. Really? I didn't know that was possible. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Plus, I also run Age of Empires 2 (it's sorta old, but still fun) Cool. Details, please. For what? AOE 2 or World of Warcraft? Either one is somewhat easy. There are very easy directions for WoW he http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi....php?p=2432975 I just followed them, word for word, and within a short time, I was running wow. And AOE 2 is also, somewhat simple. I was able to run the setup program in wine, and it installed. Then I used a no-cd crack, and overrided some dlls. The links, and directions are here (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=147). ~brian |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
"Brian" someone somewhere.com wrote:
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:48:41 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote: Brian wrote: Plus, I also run Age of Empires 2 (it's sorta old, but still fun) Cool. Details, please. For what? AOE 2 or World of Warcraft? Either one is somewhat easy. That's called "mental gymnastics". And AOE 2 is also, somewhat simple. Relatively speaking. I was able to run the setup program in wine, and it installed. "One in a million chance of a lifetime... la la la" Then I used a no-cd crack, and overrided some dlls. The links, and directions are here (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=147). Yes. I highly recommend taking a look at that page. That will give the average user an idea of the hell he will go through to get an ordinary Windows program to work in Linux, after he has learned the weirdness of the Linux interface, file structure, and program installation. On that page, after getting a laugh out of reading about user frustration with the complexities, be sure to expand the Linux distributions chart to see how many the game totally failed on after a major waste of time trying to get it to half-work. As if there aren't already enough problems getting complex programs to work properly on complex personal computer systems. Good luck. ~brian Path: newssvr14.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm05.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newsfeed.media.kyo to-u.ac.jp!Spring.edu.tw!news.nctu.edu.tw!news.ntu.ed u.tw!news.ndhu.edu.tw!not-for-mail From: "Brian" someone somewhere.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Subject: Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders? Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 05:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Fj InterNetNews site Lines: 47 Message-ID: eijsv6$2m5l$1 news.ndhu.edu.tw References: lemdnRJzpOPoFKDYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d comcast.com 25crj2hu8cjjr1qed6apads9p1j9114ia3 4ax.com MPG.1fa82b09dc5aa6bb989bc2 news.individual.net 453e3227$0$97257$892e7fe2 authen.yellow.readfreenews.net 1161717838.637080.130620 e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com Xns98674B13D70AB0123456789 207.115.17.102 glL%g.51$3v4.27 newsfe04.lga 453f8d45$0$97226$892e7fe2 authen.yellow.readfreenews.net MPG.1fa9bbd02a97ebf2989be8 news.individual.net lxnmvaf8hx9j.t3pt23g593pj.dlg 40tude.net eid9h9$pok$1 news.ndhu.edu.tw Xns986F7823F88B90123456789 207.115.17.102 7tudnXuygIGO3tfYnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d comcast.com eie7b8$2daf$2 news.ndhu.edu.tw VbadnfnFUKzmNdfYnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d comcast.com eighnj$1rnu$2 news.ndhu.edu.tw b-2dncRi_d3JSNbYnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d comcast.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-174-190-74.frdrmd.adelphia.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.ndhu.edu.tw 1162704678 88245 69.174.190.74 (5 Nov 2006 05:31:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet news.ndhu.edu.tw NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 05:31:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: pan 0.117 (We'll fly and we'll fall and we'll burn) Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:478428 |
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Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:21:00 -0500, Dave wrote:
Define "the same PC". According to Microsoft's definition, if your mainboard changes brands, your mainboard changes chipsets, your CPU changes brands (intel/amd or amd/intel), and your hard drive was replaced, it is still the same PC. -Dave Show me that definition. |
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