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Old November 8th 04, 06:29 PM
half_pint
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Default What does all this mean??

This is a scan disk from a cdr which was a failed audio disk
re-used as a directed data disk. I have had some problems with it
but I seem to have recovered the disk (although scandick said
it failed to recover the disk!!) 348082+360= 348442 sectors
seem to have been used on the two audio tracks how much is that
in bytes?
Windows reports the disk as 703mb with 337mb free I am wondering if
the software 'knows' about the audio data previously burn't or not?

Maybe I get problems when it tries to write to an area already
written to by the failed audio?

How/where is the directory info written? and how is it added to?
is ther a reserveed area.

Are disks written from the outside in or inside out?
And is it the same for audio and data? (etc....).



Disc Information:
Disc Type: CD-R disc
Disc Format: CD-DA, CD-ROM
Number of Sessions: 1
Number of Tracks: 2

Track 1:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 0
Track Length: 360 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 0
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Track At Once
Track Status: Empty Reserved

Track 2:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 512
Track Length: 348082 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 170979
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Variable Packet
Track Status: Incomplete

File System:
Version: UDF 1.5
Session Number: 1
Number of Files: 16
Number of Folders: 0

Volume Structure Status:
No errors in the volume structure.

Directory Structure Status:
No errors in the directory structure.

File Structure Status:
No errors in the file structure.

Surface Test Status:
Surface test not performed.



  #2  
Old November 8th 04, 06:52 PM
half_pint
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Actually I just had a look at the disk using ISOBuster (thanks SMH)
and it shows track 2 is a huge 333mb and track one just one megabyte.
Windows lists the CD as703 mb with 337mb free, the data files
written to the disk show as 287mb.
Also the data is shown as a file as part of track 2, I am
guessing "track 2" is the data files.

Can anyone make any sense of that? I think a data file or two
of about 30mb were 'lost' after being written.

I will continue to write to the disk to see how much data I
can get on it, I expect I will get 650mb+ on it.


"half_pint" wrote in message
...
This is a scan disk from a cdr which was a failed audio disk
re-used as a directed data disk. I have had some problems with it
but I seem to have recovered the disk (although scandick said
it failed to recover the disk!!) 348082+360= 348442 sectors
seem to have been used on the two audio tracks how much is that
in bytes?
Windows reports the disk as 703mb with 337mb free I am wondering if
the software 'knows' about the audio data previously burn't or not?

Maybe I get problems when it tries to write to an area already
written to by the failed audio?

How/where is the directory info written? and how is it added to?
is ther a reserveed area.

Are disks written from the outside in or inside out?
And is it the same for audio and data? (etc....).



Disc Information:
Disc Type: CD-R disc
Disc Format: CD-DA, CD-ROM
Number of Sessions: 1
Number of Tracks: 2

Track 1:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 0
Track Length: 360 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 0
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Track At Once
Track Status: Empty Reserved

Track 2:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 512
Track Length: 348082 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 170979
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Variable Packet
Track Status: Incomplete

File System:
Version: UDF 1.5
Session Number: 1
Number of Files: 16
Number of Folders: 0

Volume Structure Status:
No errors in the volume structure.

Directory Structure Status:
No errors in the directory structure.

File Structure Status:
No errors in the file structure.

Surface Test Status:
Surface test not performed.





  #3  
Old November 9th 04, 12:21 AM
smh
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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

half_pint wrote:

Actually I just had a look at the disk using ISOBuster (thanks SMH)
and it shows track 2 is a huge 333mb and track one just one megabyte.


Track 1 is the failed audio burn. Track 2 corresponds to the formatted
part.

Windows lists the CD as703 mb with 337mb free, the data files
written to the disk show as 287mb.
Also the data is shown as a file as part of track 2, I am
guessing "track 2" is the data files.

Can anyone make any sense of that? I think a data file or two
of about 30mb were 'lost' after being written.


You lost some space to the failed audio, and session and formatting
overheads when you formatted cd.

I will continue to write to the disk to see how much data I
can get on it, I expect I will get 650mb+ on it.


Is this the same cd that froze your system?


"half_pint" wrote in message
...
This is a scan disk from a cdr which was a failed audio disk
re-used as a directed data disk. I have had some problems with it
but I seem to have recovered the disk (although scandick said
it failed to recover the disk!!) 348082+360= 348442 sectors
seem to have been used on the two audio tracks how much is that
in bytes?
Windows reports the disk as 703mb with 337mb free I am wondering if
the software 'knows' about the audio data previously burn't or not?

Maybe I get problems when it tries to write to an area already
written to by the failed audio?

How/where is the directory info written? and how is it added to?
is ther a reserveed area.

Are disks written from the outside in or inside out?
And is it the same for audio and data? (etc....).


Disc Information:
Disc Type: CD-R disc
Disc Format: CD-DA, CD-ROM
Number of Sessions: 1
Number of Tracks: 2

Track 1:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 0
Track Length: 360 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 0
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Track At Once
Track Status: Empty Reserved

Track 2:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 512
Track Length: 348082 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 170979
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Variable Packet
Track Status: Incomplete

File System:
Version: UDF 1.5
Session Number: 1
Number of Files: 16
Number of Folders: 0

Volume Structure Status:
No errors in the volume structure.

Directory Structure Status:
No errors in the directory structure.

File Structure Status:
No errors in the file structure.

Surface Test Status:
Surface test not performed.



  #4  
Old November 9th 04, 01:02 AM
half_pint
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"smh" wrote in message
...
. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

half_pint wrote:

Actually I just had a look at the disk using ISOBuster (thanks SMH)
and it shows track 2 is a huge 333mb and track one just one megabyte.


Track 1 is the failed audio burn. Track 2 corresponds to the formatted
part.



Yes, I suspected as much as most of my audio failures are very early,
the early failure means it can create more coasters in a given time,
which is a bonus if you are a CDR manufacturer.


Windows lists the CD as703 mb with 337mb free, the data files
written to the disk show as 287mb.
Also the data is shown as a file as part of track 2, I am
guessing "track 2" is the data files.

Can anyone make any sense of that? I think a data file or two
of about 30mb were 'lost' after being written.


You lost some space to the failed audio, and session and formatting
overheads when you formatted cd.


Yes seems resonable.

I will continue to write to the disk to see how much data I
can get on it, I expect I will get 650mb+ on it.


Is this the same cd that froze your system?


No its a different one!! I have loads of failed CDs but 'freezers'
are quite a rare beast. (I also now find that none of my old CDRW
disks work at all, thats 10 failed disks!! the whole pack!!) GRRR!!!
This one has appeared unreadable a few times but I have always
(so far) managed to recover it with a 'scan disk'
Unfortunately I have to keep a copy of the data on my hard drive
'just in case', I am not sure whether I should just bin it and burn a
new cd to save me doing the samething laterwhen it does fail
and I will have deleted my harddrive backup by then :O(

Or maybe I will fill the disk and finalise it but then I might
not be able to recover it if it fails again (especially if I make it
so it cannot be written too again)



"half_pint" wrote in message
...
This is a scan disk from a cdr which was a failed audio disk
re-used as a directed data disk. I have had some problems with it
but I seem to have recovered the disk (although scandick said
it failed to recover the disk!!) 348082+360= 348442 sectors
seem to have been used on the two audio tracks how much is that
in bytes?
Windows reports the disk as 703mb with 337mb free I am wondering if
the software 'knows' about the audio data previously burn't or not?

Maybe I get problems when it tries to write to an area already
written to by the failed audio?

How/where is the directory info written? and how is it added to?
is ther a reserveed area.

Are disks written from the outside in or inside out?
And is it the same for audio and data? (etc....).


Disc Information:
Disc Type: CD-R disc
Disc Format: CD-DA, CD-ROM
Number of Sessions: 1
Number of Tracks: 2

Track 1:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 0
Track Length: 360 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 0
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Track At Once
Track Status: Empty Reserved

Track 2:
Session Number: 1
Start Address: 512
Track Length: 348082 sectors
Next Recordable Address: 170979
Track Format: Mode 2 Form 1
Track Type: Variable Packet
Track Status: Incomplete

File System:
Version: UDF 1.5
Session Number: 1
Number of Files: 16
Number of Folders: 0

Volume Structure Status:
No errors in the volume structure.

Directory Structure Status:
No errors in the directory structure.

File Structure Status:
No errors in the file structure.

Surface Test Status:
Surface test not performed.





 




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