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  #11  
Old August 12th 05, 01:00 AM
Rod Speed
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Patrick wrote

The whole industry was getting poor yields


Bull****.

and sales were down


More bull****.

so they decided to release bunch crappy HDs and offer 1 year or 30 day
warranties.


Samsung never did.

WD hardrives are are the best I know of..


You wanna get out more, child.

I have 4 WD740 raptors 1 WD360 raptor and 4 80gb JB IDE drives and have never
had any issues with them,,


The JB drives are hardly the current mass market drives WD sells.

I would stay clear of samsung fujitsu.


More fool you. And Fujitsu doesnt even bother with 3.5"
IDE drives anymore, shows how little you actually know.


"Zag" wrote in message
news:s3OKe.194479$%K2.140427@pd7tw1no...
You said it's less than 2yrs old and warranty's expired, all WD 120gb
drives
come with a 3yr warranty, look into RMA'ing it.
I'd stay clear of any WD drives, due to past experience with them.


"eb7g" wrote in message
newsNBKe.186006$%K2.81544@pd7tw1no...
I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years
old. I was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing
could read it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to
access it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems
fine.... Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my
operating system won't read it. Warranty is expired.



  #12  
Old August 12th 05, 05:09 AM
Rob
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if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....


try this


works.. 90% of the time


freeze the *******.. overnight

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:32:08 GMT, "Patrick" wrote:

The whole industry was getting poor yields and sales were down so they
decided to release bunch crappy HDs and offer 1 year or 30 day warranties.
WD hardrives are are the best I know of.. I have 4 WD740 raptors 1 WD360
raptor and 4 80gb JB IDE drives and have never had any issues with them,,
I would stay clear of samsung fujitsu.
"Zag" wrote in message
news:s3OKe.194479$%K2.140427@pd7tw1no...
You said it's less than 2yrs old and warranty's expired, all WD 120gb
drives
come with a 3yr warranty, look into RMA'ing it.
I'd stay clear of any WD drives, due to past experience with them.


"eb7g" wrote in message
newsNBKe.186006$%K2.81544@pd7tw1no...
I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years old. I
was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing could read
it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to access
it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems fine....

Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my operating
system won't read it. Warranty is expired.





  #13  
Old August 12th 05, 05:50 AM
Zag
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Or just get Spinrite.


"Rob" wrote in message
...
if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....


try this


works.. 90% of the time


freeze the *******.. overnight

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:32:08 GMT, "Patrick" wrote:

The whole industry was getting poor yields and sales were down so they
decided to release bunch crappy HDs and offer 1 year or 30 day

warranties.
WD hardrives are are the best I know of.. I have 4 WD740 raptors 1 WD360
raptor and 4 80gb JB IDE drives and have never had any issues with them,,
I would stay clear of samsung fujitsu.
"Zag" wrote in message
news:s3OKe.194479$%K2.140427@pd7tw1no...
You said it's less than 2yrs old and warranty's expired, all WD 120gb
drives
come with a 3yr warranty, look into RMA'ing it.
I'd stay clear of any WD drives, due to past experience with them.


"eb7g" wrote in message
newsNBKe.186006$%K2.81544@pd7tw1no...
I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years old.

I
was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing could

read
it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to access
it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems fine....

Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my

operating
system won't read it. Warranty is expired.






  #14  
Old August 12th 05, 08:28 AM
eb7g
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I just checked it with Partion Doctor 3.0. Turns out....every sector is
bad. I guess it's toast.

I bought a Seagate Barracuda 200GB instead, they have the 5 year warranty.

thanks for your posts and emails.

Zag wrote:

Or just get Spinrite.


"Rob" wrote in message
...

if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....


try this


works.. 90% of the time


freeze the *******.. overnight

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:32:08 GMT, "Patrick" wrote:


The whole industry was getting poor yields and sales were down so they
decided to release bunch crappy HDs and offer 1 year or 30 day


warranties.

WD hardrives are are the best I know of.. I have 4 WD740 raptors 1 WD360
raptor and 4 80gb JB IDE drives and have never had any issues with them,,
I would stay clear of samsung fujitsu.
"Zag" wrote in message
news:s3OKe.194479$%K2.140427@pd7tw1no...

You said it's less than 2yrs old and warranty's expired, all WD 120gb
drives
come with a 3yr warranty, look into RMA'ing it.
I'd stay clear of any WD drives, due to past experience with them.


"eb7g" wrote in message
newsNBKe.186006$%K2.81544@pd7tw1no...

I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years old.


I

was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing could


read

it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to access
it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems fine....

Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my


operating

system won't read it. Warranty is expired.




  #15  
Old August 12th 05, 08:29 AM
Xrayman
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"eb7g" wrote in message
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Xrayman wrote:

download the diagnostic disk from WD and run the quick and extended

health
test on the drive. you can also zero fill the drive (since you don't

need
the data) and verify afterward to see if there are bad sectors in the

drive.
unfortunately the program does not give you the actual errors, just

error
codes so you can't really tell what they are. but having this happen to

the
drive once, you should avoid putting important data on it, even if it
recovers.


"eb7g" wrote in message
news:4TCKe.186935$%K2.75849@pd7tw1no...

ccrc wrote:


I use GetDataBack and it has worked wonders on my old "unreadable" (by
Windows) drives.
-Chris.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:57:41 GMT, eb7g wrote:



I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years old.

I
was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing could

read
it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to access
it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems fine....

Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my

operating
system won't read it. Warranty is expired.


Cool. I don't need the data on it, I just want to be able to use it
again, as it's not an old drive.





As it turns out the Diagnostic tools don't work as I immediately get a
'cable' error to the drive. The cables I fine, I tested it out with
other cables and drives.


Sounds like your drive electronics is toast, time for a new drive. If you
want to recover the data, you can use a circuit board from an identical
drive. You can put the good board back after the data recovery. Usually a
media death starts with bad sectors growing slowly or very quickly. Oh
course a head crash is instant death as well but you usually hear a lot
clicking from the head and spinning up and down as it tries to read from the
dead head.



  #16  
Old August 12th 05, 11:05 AM
Mike Redrobe
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Rob wrote:
if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....

try this

works.. 90% of the time


depends what the failure mode is.

freeze the *******.. overnight


If you must give this advice at least tell people to put the HDD
in a plastic bag before putting it in the freezer.

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!


Using this method you may have limited time until it heats up and
stops working again.

It might be quicker to get important files off it instead of cloning
the entire drive.

--
Mike


  #17  
Old August 12th 05, 03:58 PM
Rob
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thats why i mentioned in my first line " if the drive is unreadable
with any other tools "





in other words, if the drive is toast, give it a shot

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:05:53 GMT, "Mike Redrobe"
wrote:

Rob wrote:
if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....

try this

works.. 90% of the time


depends what the failure mode is.

freeze the *******.. overnight


If you must give this advice at least tell people to put the HDD
in a plastic bag before putting it in the freezer.

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!


Using this method you may have limited time until it heats up and
stops working again.

It might be quicker to get important files off it instead of cloning
the entire drive.


  #18  
Old August 12th 05, 04:16 PM
Zag
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Good choice, that's the exact one I have in mine too.
No problems with it so far.

"eb7g" wrote in message
news:EcYKe.197330$s54.70843@pd7tw2no...
I just checked it with Partion Doctor 3.0. Turns out....every sector is
bad. I guess it's toast.

I bought a Seagate Barracuda 200GB instead, they have the 5 year warranty.

thanks for your posts and emails.

Zag wrote:

Or just get Spinrite.



  #19  
Old August 13th 05, 02:24 AM
King Jeremy The Wicked
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In article EcYKe.197330$s54.70843@pd7tw2no, says...

I just checked it with Partion Doctor 3.0. Turns out....every sector is
bad. I guess it's toast.



did you try writing it with 0's? (low level format)


I bought a Seagate Barracuda 200GB instead, they have the 5 year warranty.

thanks for your posts and emails.

Zag wrote:

Or just get Spinrite.


"Rob" wrote in message
...

if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....


try this


works.. 90% of the time


freeze the *******.. overnight

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:32:08 GMT, "Patrick" wrote:


The whole industry was getting poor yields and sales were down so they
decided to release bunch crappy HDs and offer 1 year or 30 day


warranties.

WD hardrives are are the best I know of.. I have 4 WD740 raptors 1 WD360
raptor and 4 80gb JB IDE drives and have never had any issues with them,,
I would stay clear of samsung fujitsu.
"Zag" wrote in message
news:s3OKe.194479$%K2.140427@pd7tw1no...

You said it's less than 2yrs old and warranty's expired, all WD 120gb
drives
come with a 3yr warranty, look into RMA'ing it.
I'd stay clear of any WD drives, due to past experience with them.


"eb7g" wrote in message
newsNBKe.186006$%K2.81544@pd7tw1no...

I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years old.


I

was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing could


read

it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to access
it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems fine....

Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my


operating

system won't read it. Warranty is expired.





  #20  
Old August 13th 05, 10:40 AM
Xrayman
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If every sector is bad, that means the media or disk is not accessible.
Good chance the controller or the head controller (inside the drive, not on
the board) is fried. The original poster only want to check if the drive
still works and don't care about the data so it's a piece of junk now. You
wouldn't trust a drive like that even if it recovers.


"King Jeremy The Wicked" wrote in message
news:5ZbLe.218521$on1.114246@clgrps13...
In article EcYKe.197330$s54.70843@pd7tw2no, says...

I just checked it with Partion Doctor 3.0. Turns out....every sector is
bad. I guess it's toast.



did you try writing it with 0's? (low level format)


I bought a Seagate Barracuda 200GB instead, they have the 5 year

warranty.

thanks for your posts and emails.

Zag wrote:

Or just get Spinrite.


"Rob" wrote in message
...

if the drive is unreadable with any other tools.....


try this


works.. 90% of the time


freeze the *******.. overnight

get ghost.. made by symantec.. a hard drive cloning utility


install the dead hard drive back.. boot up with ghost, and let the
cloning begins!



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:32:08 GMT, "Patrick" wrote:


The whole industry was getting poor yields and sales were down so they
decided to release bunch crappy HDs and offer 1 year or 30 day

warranties.

WD hardrives are are the best I know of.. I have 4 WD740 raptors 1

WD360
raptor and 4 80gb JB IDE drives and have never had any issues with

them,,
I would stay clear of samsung fujitsu.
"Zag" wrote in message
news:s3OKe.194479$%K2.140427@pd7tw1no...

You said it's less than 2yrs old and warranty's expired, all WD 120gb
drives
come with a 3yr warranty, look into RMA'ing it.
I'd stay clear of any WD drives, due to past experience with them.


"eb7g" wrote in message
newsNBKe.186006$%K2.81544@pd7tw1no...

I have a 120GB Western Digital Caviar that is less than two years

old.

I

was rendering a movie from it when it froze and then nothing could

read

it again.

The computer bios will see it, but windows can't. Can't seem to

access
it in anyway, even to reformat it. It spins and seems fine....

Any idea what happened, and if it's usable? If so, how, as my

operating

system won't read it. Warranty is expired.







 




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