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Old June 12th 07, 06:32 PM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
Tim Shoppa
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What's the bulkiest removable storage media? Drums etc. don't count
because you don't often switch the drum (although they certainly could
be heavy judging by nothing but the size of the bearings). I worked
with RP06 packs and some funky optical tape reels in the past, but
those were pretty measly compared to some others I have seen or heard
about:

An IMAX 3-D reel can be 350 pounds and even the projector room even
has a dedicated forklift for helping load them:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002...lding_1-2.html

An SSEC "paper tape" reel was punched-card-width stock not cut into
individual cards, sprocket holed and with 78 usable columns, and a
reel of it weighed 400 pounds:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/ssec-tape.html

Any other bulkier examples I'm missing?

Tim.

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Old June 12th 07, 07:44 PM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
Stan Barr
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:32:49 -0700, Tim Shoppa
wrote:
What's the bulkiest removable storage media? Drums etc. don't count
because you don't often switch the drum (although they certainly could
be heavy judging by nothing but the size of the bearings). I worked
with RP06 packs and some funky optical tape reels in the past, but
those were pretty measly compared to some others I have seen or heard
about:

An IMAX 3-D reel can be 350 pounds and even the projector room even
has a dedicated forklift for helping load them:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002...lding_1-2.html

An SSEC "paper tape" reel was punched-card-width stock not cut into
individual cards, sprocket holed and with 78 usable columns, and a
reel of it weighed 400 pounds:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/ssec-tape.html

Any other bulkier examples I'm missing?


The original BBC steel tape video recorders? Huge reels of thin steel
tape, spliced by welding and grinding!

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Old June 12th 07, 08:18 PM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?

Stan Barr wrote On 06/12/07 14:44,:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:32:49 -0700, Tim Shoppa
wrote:

What's the bulkiest removable storage media? Drums etc. don't count
because you don't often switch the drum (although they certainly could
be heavy judging by nothing but the size of the bearings). I worked
with RP06 packs and some funky optical tape reels in the past, but
those were pretty measly compared to some others I have seen or heard
about:

An IMAX 3-D reel can be 350 pounds and even the projector room even
has a dedicated forklift for helping load them:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002...lding_1-2.html

An SSEC "paper tape" reel was punched-card-width stock not cut into
individual cards, sprocket holed and with 78 usable columns, and a
reel of it weighed 400 pounds:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/ssec-tape.html

Any other bulkier examples I'm missing?



The original BBC steel tape video recorders? Huge reels of thin steel
tape, spliced by welding and grinding!


Clay tablets? Around 5 grams per bit, I'd guess,
plus or minus Finagle's Variable Constant.

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Old June 12th 07, 09:32 PM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
Steve O'Hara-Smith
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:18:59 -0400
Eric Sosman wrote:

Clay tablets? Around 5 grams per bit, I'd guess,
plus or minus Finagle's Variable Constant.


Hmm Fred Flintstone's time card

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Old June 13th 07, 02:55 AM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?

Eric Sosman wrote:
Clay tablets? Around 5 grams per bit, I'd guess,
plus or minus Finagle's Variable Constant.


Probably a lot more than that, if you want adequate redundancy.

I have these 15! [Whoops! *crash*] ... 10! 10 distribution media!

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Old June 13th 07, 03:30 AM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
Eric Sosman[_2_]
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?

Bit Banger wrote:
Eric Sosman wrote:
Clay tablets? Around 5 grams per bit, I'd guess,
plus or minus Finagle's Variable Constant.


Probably a lot more than that, if you want adequate redundancy.

I have these 15! [Whoops! *crash*] ... 10! 10 distribution media!


... and the other five get swept up and put in the





... wait for it ...





.... bit bucket.

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Old June 13th 07, 06:59 AM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?

In alt.folklore.computers Eric Sosman
wrote:

Bit Banger wrote:
Eric Sosman wrote:
Clay tablets? Around 5 grams per bit, I'd guess,
plus or minus Finagle's Variable Constant.


Probably a lot more than that, if you want adequate redundancy.

I have these 15! [Whoops! *crash*] ... 10! 10 distribution media!


... and the other five get swept up and put in the





... wait for it ...





... bit bucket.


WOM.

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Old June 13th 07, 11:01 AM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
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Stan Barr wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:32:49 -0700, Tim Shoppa
wrote:
What's the bulkiest removable storage media? Drums etc. don't count
because you don't often switch the drum (although they certainly could
be heavy judging by nothing but the size of the bearings). I worked
with RP06 packs and some funky optical tape reels in the past, but
those were pretty measly compared to some others I have seen or heard
about:

An IMAX 3-D reel can be 350 pounds and even the projector room even
has a dedicated forklift for helping load them:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002...lding_1-2.html

An SSEC "paper tape" reel was punched-card-width stock not cut into
individual cards, sprocket holed and with 78 usable columns, and a
reel of it weighed 400 pounds:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/ssec-tape.html

Any other bulkier examples I'm missing?


The original BBC steel tape video recorders? Huge reels of thin steel
tape, spliced by welding and grinding!

I forwarded this to a friend who worked at the BBC: this is his reply:

= It sounds like VERA, can't remember whether or not it was steel tape. One
= of these pages just says "magnetic tape"
=
= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VERA_videotape_format
=
= http://www.terramedia.co.uk/Chronome...s/bbc_vera.htm
=
= http://www.vtoldboys.com/vera2.htm
=
= There was a steel tape audio recorder, Blattnerphone
=
= http://www.roger.beckwith.btinternet...s/blattner.htm
=
= Perhaps someone has confused the two?
=
The splicing by welding & grinding is explicitly mentioned on the
Blattnerphone site, so no doubt this is what was meant. But that was
audio, in the 1930's.


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Old June 13th 07, 01:48 PM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
Tim Shoppa
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?

On Jun 13, 6:01 am, David R Brooks wrote:
Stan Barr wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:32:49 -0700, TimShoppa
wrote:
What's the bulkiest removable storage media? Drums etc. don't count
because you don't often switch the drum (although they certainly could
be heavy judging by nothing but the size of the bearings). I worked
with RP06 packs and some funky optical tape reels in the past, but
those were pretty measly compared to some others I have seen or heard
about:


An IMAX 3-D reel can be 350 pounds and even the projector room even
has a dedicated forklift for helping load them:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002...lding_1-2.html


An SSEC "paper tape" reel was punched-card-width stock not cut into
individual cards, sprocket holed and with 78 usable columns, and a
reel of it weighed 400 pounds:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/ssec-tape.html


Any other bulkier examples I'm missing?


The original BBC steel tape video recorders? Huge reels of thin steel
tape, spliced by welding and grinding!


I forwarded this to a friend who worked at the BBC: this is his reply:

= It sounds like VERA, can't remember whether or not it was steel tape. One
= of these pages just says "magnetic tape"
=
=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VERA_videotape_format
=
=http://www.terramedia.co.uk/Chronomedia/years/bbc_vera.htm
=
=http://www.vtoldboys.com/vera2.htm


Working with the figures provided (20" diameter, 1/2" thick) and a
density of steel of 7.8g/cc,I get a weight of 20kg which is like 44
pounds. (Yes, this ignores the weight of the reel itself, but it also
overestimates the weight of the tape because the center of the reel is
not occupied). A bit of a pain to lift up to head-height, but not a
contender compared to 400 pounds!

Tim.

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Old June 13th 07, 06:57 PM posted to alt.folklore.computers,comp.arch.storage
Dave Wade
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Default Bulkiest removable storage media?


"Tim Shoppa" wrote in message
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What's the bulkiest removable storage media? Drums etc. don't count
because you don't often switch the drum (although they certainly could
be heavy judging by nothing but the size of the bearings). I worked
with RP06 packs and some funky optical tape reels in the past, but
those were pretty measly compared to some others I have seen or heard
about:

An IMAX 3-D reel can be 350 pounds and even the projector room even
has a dedicated forklift for helping load them:
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002...lding_1-2.html


Well if you count printed output (you could scan it in again)

http://www.rollsystems.com/1-RolltoRoll.html



An SSEC "paper tape" reel was punched-card-width stock not cut into
individual cards, sprocket holed and with 78 usable columns, and a
reel of it weighed 400 pounds:
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/ssec-tape.html

Any other bulkier examples I'm missing?

Tim.



 




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