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Major ISPs dropping Usenet
"Augustus" wrote in message news:Wny5k.1864$L03.1013@edtnps92...
WELL HERE WE ARE ANOTHER STUPID RUMOR STARTED -- I CHECKED TIME WARNER IN SOCAL THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY HAD BEEN ASKED ABOUT THIS AND THAT THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE-THEY ARE GOING TO LIMIT AND BLOCK SITES THAT HAVE APPARENT PORN BOTH ADULT AND CHILD -- THEY HAVE NO INTENSION OF BLOCKING OR REMOVING ANY NEWS GROUPS WITH INFORMATIONAL VALUE--YOU WOULD THINK PEOPLE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN START THIS NONSENSE I would think people who post on Usenet would know how to use the Capslock key, but there you go...... Not to mention his info is absolutely incorrect. Time-Warner is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy (which includes THIS group by the way). |
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"nospam" wrote in message . ..
"Augustus" wrote in message news:Wny5k.1864$L03.1013@edtnps92... WELL HERE WE ARE ANOTHER STUPID RUMOR STARTED -- I CHECKED TIME WARNER IN SOCAL THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY HAD BEEN ASKED ABOUT THIS AND THAT THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE-THEY ARE GOING TO LIMIT AND BLOCK SITES THAT HAVE APPARENT PORN BOTH ADULT AND CHILD -- THEY HAVE NO INTENSION OF BLOCKING OR REMOVING ANY NEWS GROUPS WITH INFORMATIONAL VALUE--YOU WOULD THINK PEOPLE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN START THIS NONSENSE I would think people who post on Usenet would know how to use the Capslock key, but there you go...... Not to mention his info is absolutely incorrect. Time-Warner is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy (which includes THIS group by the way). Sorry, that's Verizon. Time-Warner is dropping *all* of Usenet. |
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Seems the internet took two hits this month, one is the story about usenet
and the other is about TWC's testing of internet metering in Texas before going national. This should kill off any thoughts of video streaming, etc. The high end package in Texas allows 40 gigs a month. Hell, I surfed and watched a 12 minute podcast, within 1.5 hours, I had downloaded 1 gig. Also unclear is if phone usage counts toward the limit, if it does, I guess TWC and others have figured out a way to suck more money from us. --g |
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In article , lkboop wrote:
nospam wrote: Time-Warner is dropping all newsgroups. Verizon is keeping most of the Big-8 but is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy, which includes this group. Keep this in mind for future posts, and you may wish to migrate any existing discussions to a non-alt.* group. WELL HERE WE ARE ANOTHER STUPID RUMOR STARTED -- I CHECKED TIME WARNER IN SOCAL THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY HAD BEEN ASKED ABOUT THIS AND THAT THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE-THEY ARE GOING TO LIMIT AND BLOCK SITES THAT HAVE APPARENT PORN BOTH ADULT AND CHILD -- THEY HAVE NO INTENSION OF BLOCKING OR REMOVING ANY NEWS GROUPS WITH INFORMATIONAL VALUE--YOU WOULD THINK PEOPLE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN START THIS NONSENSE Adult porn is not illegal. |
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nospam wrote:
Sorry, that's Verizon. Time-Warner is dropping *all* of Usenet. Got my notice from Verizon today. Gonna check my options, but being stupid is definitely going to cost them money from me. |
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On Jun 14, 6:54*am, "nospam" wrote:
Time-Warner is dropping all newsgroups. *Verizon is keeping most of the Big-8 but is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy, which includes this group. Keep this in mind for future posts, and you may wish to migrate any existing discussions to a non-alt.* group. I can't see this being a big factor in killing the usenet. How many people that have internet access even KNOW about newsgroups?? Does anyone know what percentage of the internet population uses usenet? Most everyday people that I know, that I have worked with over the past 15 years in the financial industry and various temp jobs, either don't have computers, or if they do, only use it for email and internet once in awhile. They work, surf the net, then go home and don't do anything on the computer. I mean in 15 years I haven't found one person to game with! And those that do have computers, how many access website forums? Then of those that access web forums, how many access usenet? I am sure more kids today now about usenet then say 10 years ago when you had to be a real computer geek to know what usenet was and how to access it. Hell ,you still might have to be that geek, if you're not using Google Groups that is. |
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT), meatnub
wrote: On Jun 14, 6:54*am, "nospam" wrote: Time-Warner is dropping all newsgroups. *Verizon is keeping most of the Big-8 but is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy, which includes this group. Keep this in mind for future posts, and you may wish to migrate any existing discussions to a non-alt.* group. I can't see this being a big factor in killing the usenet. How many people that have internet access even KNOW about newsgroups?? Does anyone know what percentage of the internet population uses usenet? Most everyday people that I know, that I have worked with over the past 15 years in the financial industry and various temp jobs, either don't have computers, or if they do, only use it for email and internet once in awhile. They work, surf the net, then go home and don't do anything on the computer. I mean in 15 years I haven't found one person to game with! And those that do have computers, how many access website forums? Then of those that access web forums, how many access usenet? I am sure more kids today now about usenet then say 10 years ago when you had to be a real computer geek to know what usenet was and how to access it. Hell ,you still might have to be that geek, if you're not using Google Groups that is. I doubt kids/teens/college-age people know about usenet. I've been computing since 94', and my neices/nephews, & their friends have no idea what usenet is. All they know is IM, MySpace, & Limewire (some P2P). |
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"Larry Roberts" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT), meatnub wrote: On Jun 14, 6:54 am, "nospam" wrote: Time-Warner is dropping all newsgroups. Verizon is keeping most of the Big-8 but is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy, which includes this group. Keep this in mind for future posts, and you may wish to migrate any existing discussions to a non-alt.* group. I can't see this being a big factor in killing the usenet. How many people that have internet access even KNOW about newsgroups?? Does anyone know what percentage of the internet population uses usenet? Most everyday people that I know, that I have worked with over the past 15 years in the financial industry and various temp jobs, either don't have computers, or if they do, only use it for email and internet once in awhile. They work, surf the net, then go home and don't do anything on the computer. I mean in 15 years I haven't found one person to game with! And those that do have computers, how many access website forums? Then of those that access web forums, how many access usenet? I am sure more kids today now about usenet then say 10 years ago when you had to be a real computer geek to know what usenet was and how to access it. Hell ,you still might have to be that geek, if you're not using Google Groups that is. I doubt kids/teens/college-age people know about usenet. I've been computing since 94', and my neices/nephews, & their friends have no idea what usenet is. All they know is IM, MySpace, & Limewire (some P2P). My kids too. If it don't have sound and pictures they can't deal with it. |
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'meatnub' wrote, in part:
| I can't see this being a big factor in killing the usenet. How many | people that have internet access even KNOW about newsgroups?? Does | anyone know what percentage of the internet population uses usenet? _____ If you take a close look a many of the web 'so-called' forums, you will see much of the content are threads copied from Usenet groups. I Googled on my Usenet signature, and found that out of the first 65 legitimate hits, 61 were on web forums that evidently just siphon content to maintain the illusion of relevant activity. Some of these web forums would disappear into the noise without Usenet. Phil Weldon "meatnub" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 6:54 am, "nospam" wrote: Time-Warner is dropping all newsgroups. Verizon is keeping most of the Big-8 but is dropping the entire alt.* hierarchy, which includes this group. Keep this in mind for future posts, and you may wish to migrate any existing discussions to a non-alt.* group. I can't see this being a big factor in killing the usenet. How many people that have internet access even KNOW about newsgroups?? Does anyone know what percentage of the internet population uses usenet? Most everyday people that I know, that I have worked with over the past 15 years in the financial industry and various temp jobs, either don't have computers, or if they do, only use it for email and internet once in awhile. They work, surf the net, then go home and don't do anything on the computer. I mean in 15 years I haven't found one person to game with! And those that do have computers, how many access website forums? Then of those that access web forums, how many access usenet? I am sure more kids today now about usenet then say 10 years ago when you had to be a real computer geek to know what usenet was and how to access it. Hell ,you still might have to be that geek, if you're not using Google Groups that is. |
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'*TimDaniels' wrote, in part:
I've many times been surprised to see myself quoted in random forums that I hadn't known existed. _____ My take is that in the USA there is growing tension between 'how to make money off the Internet' and 'how to lower costs'. The conditions are in flux... who knows WHAT the 'next big thing' is? Metering and charging by bandwidth usage may very well set back future Internet advances by years (including new ways to make money on the Internet.) Just think, those Web-based groups that have all the sponsored ads are depending on Usenet,mainly alt.*, content to draw visitors! ISP's with short enough attention spans to risk killing ANY important part of the World Wide Web certainly are, having replaced Usenet access with their own web-based groups, capable soon thereafter killing those too. The decision of any ISP to stop carrying alt.* Usenet groups while continuing big 8 Usenet groups is not really about either pornography or bandwidth usage when cutting access to binary groups would meet either purpose. If there IS a revenue stream to be developed from Usenet, then these knee-jerk responses from the ISPs will have resulted in losing markets. And yet Verizon is building the widest paths to the customer. The DSL providers are less affected by bandwidth usage than the cable providers. If the user is going to be charged by bandwidth usage, isn't that a great incentive to use ad blockers? An annoying pop-up is one thing, PAYING for an annoying pop-up is worse. I overclock my CPU while my ISP underclocks my broadband? Maybe it's all a plot by the newspapers B^) Phil Weldon "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... "Phil Weldon" wrote: If you take a close look a many of the web 'so-called' forums, you will see much of the content are threads copied from Usenet groups. I Googled on my Usenet signature, and found that out of the first 65 legitimate hits, 61 were on web forums that evidently just siphon content to maintain the illusion of relevant activity. Some of these web forums would disappear into the noise without Usenet. Phil Weldon LOL I concur. I've many times been surprised to see myself quoted in random forums that I hadn't known existed. These guys must spend all their time combing through Usenet newsgroups to find material to plug into their forums and websites. The death of Usenet would rob these forums of all their material. *TimDaniels* |
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