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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
{Cross-posted to linux.redhat.install}
I was given a Compaq Proliant 2500 server and a Compaq Storage System last week just to tinker with at home. My goal is to install Fedora Core 5 (so I can learn more about the Linux environment) and to become more comfortable with SCSI drive management. I'm not a true Linux newbie, but I have only administered existing Linux/Apache servers at work and my only installs have been on desktops with IDE drives. The server has the Compaq Smart Array 2/P RAID Controller installed and two 2.1 GB SCSI drives in the drive cage. The Storage System is also full of drives, but I am waiting for the SCSI cable to attach it to the server, because he forgot to grab that when he brought me the rest of the stuff. I was able to download and use the SmartStart 5.50 CD to erase the system and congifure the array. I told it to optimize the system for a Linux install and at the end, it told me it would restart and I should follow the OS instructions to continue my install. I put CD#1 in and let the system boot to it. The install started and reached a certain point and hung for a very long time. I cycled the power and tried one mor time. It hangs in the same place every time. Here's the text that is on the screen when it hangs: CPU: Intel Pentium Pro Stepping 07 Checking 'hit' instruction... OK. ExtINT not setup in hardware but reported by MP table ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs ...TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=0 pin2=0 ...MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC ....trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... ...... (found pin 0) ...works. checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 4859k freed NET: Registered protocal family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0068, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 ACPI: Subsystem revision 20060127 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled usbco registered new driver usbfs usbco registered new driver hub PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI BIOS passed nonexistent PCI bus 2! PCI: Device 0000:00:00.0 not found by BIOS PCI: Device 0000:00:14.0 not found by BIOS PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:1000000@42000000 for 0000:01:06.0 PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:0d.0 Things I am uncertain about: Since I don't have the SCSI cable for attaching the Storage System, the SCSI connector on th rear of the server is unterminated. I don't know if this model is self terminating, or if I need a terminator. If so, could that be what is hanging it up? Could it be a bad RAM issue? The system has, I believe, the 64MB DIMM and two 128MB DIMMs. Memory counts up fine, but it counts to only 274K and some change. I'm assuming that's a shared memory situation. By the way, I tried just for fun and giggles late last night booting to the Knoppix 5.0.1 CD. It wouldn't load either, but I didn't get the text from that error, other than it was unable to load and was loading instead a minimal enivornment that gave me a prompt only. I really want to get this going. Any hints? Thanks Steve |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
wrote in message oups.com... {Cross-posted to linux.redhat.install} I was given a Compaq Proliant 2500 server and a Compaq Storage System last week just to tinker with at home. My goal is to install Fedora Core 5 (so I can learn more about the Linux environment) and to become more comfortable with SCSI drive management. I'm not a true Linux newbie, but I have only administered existing Linux/Apache servers at work and my only installs have been on desktops with IDE drives. The server has the Compaq Smart Array 2/P RAID Controller installed and two 2.1 GB SCSI drives in the drive cage. The Storage System is also full of drives, but I am waiting for the SCSI cable to attach it to the server, because he forgot to grab that when he brought me the rest of the stuff. I was able to download and use the SmartStart 5.50 CD to erase the system and congifure the array. I told it to optimize the system for a Linux install and at the end, it told me it would restart and I should follow the OS instructions to continue my install. I put CD#1 in and let the system boot to it. The install started and reached a certain point and hung for a very long time. I cycled the power and tried one mor time. It hangs in the same place every time. Here's the text that is on the screen when it hangs: CPU: Intel Pentium Pro Stepping 07 Checking 'hit' instruction... OK. ExtINT not setup in hardware but reported by MP table ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=0 pin2=0 ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC ...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... ..... (found pin 0) ...works. checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 4859k freed NET: Registered protocal family 16 PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0068, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 ACPI: Subsystem revision 20060127 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled usbco registered new driver usbfs usbco registered new driver hub PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI BIOS passed nonexistent PCI bus 2! PCI: Device 0000:00:00.0 not found by BIOS PCI: Device 0000:00:14.0 not found by BIOS PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:1000000@42000000 for 0000:01:06.0 PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:0d.0 Things I am uncertain about: Since I don't have the SCSI cable for attaching the Storage System, the SCSI connector on th rear of the server is unterminated. I don't know if this model is self terminating, or if I need a terminator. If so, could that be what is hanging it up? Could it be a bad RAM issue? The system has, I believe, the 64MB DIMM and two 128MB DIMMs. Memory counts up fine, but it counts to only 274K and some change. I'm assuming that's a shared memory situation. By the way, I tried just for fun and giggles late last night booting to the Knoppix 5.0.1 CD. It wouldn't load either, but I didn't get the text from that error, other than it was unable to load and was loading instead a minimal enivornment that gave me a prompt only. I really want to get this going. Any hints? Thanks Steve boot from your smartstart CD, run the SCU choose your OS type. It should be something to the affect of, Unix, Other, Linux. I had to do this on an old 6400R (yes, i know its newer but that isnt the point) before VMWARE ESX Server 2.5.1 would do more than 1 processor. Your system should not have a shared memory thingy going on. try moving them around and see what happenes. Does the boot stop at the same point? does the amount of memory reported during the POST change ? Try it with a single 128 and see what happens. Also, grab SS5.50 and burn that at the slowest possible speed (you are doing SS5.0 you got from someone, no?) - LC Also, there are loads of posts in this group about installing various linuxes on proliant machines. Google for them. |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
Jeffrey Alsip wrote: Oh, wait. Here's something I should have remembered before, but didn't. Remember that "craziest thing I ever heard" thing from the last thread? I (again for some STRANGE reason) have better luck when I burn the FC5 boot disk at the slowest possible speed. Don't ask me why, it just works better. I think we should all conclude that the ProLiants have a congenital shortcoming in the "IDE Bus" area. They, possibly, just didn't care that much about it, since they are designed for SCSI drives. Even when I replace the stock CD Drive with a newer, faster one, it still only reads a BOOTABLE disk that has been burned at a slow speed. It has to be the IDE bus that is brain damaged. It's almost as if the designers (at the time these machines were made) had 1X, 2X, or maybe 4X CD Drives available...and it never occurred to them that the world may someday develop faster drives (and disks burned at faster speeds). What I should do is put a 1600 up on the bench and runs some benchmarks...first with the original 4X drive and then with a new 52X. If the results show read/seek times to be close to the same, we are on to something. Jeff |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
I am using SmartStart v. 5.50, burned at the slowest speed. When I ran
it, I did choose Linux. Just to prove I wasn't nuts, I started from scrathc this weekend with a System Erase and told it I was installing Win2K Advanced (I had an 120-day eval copy from when I used to teach). Much to my dismay, Win2K loaded up fine. I'm thinking the Memory Allocation thing may in fact be the issue. I'm going to try first re-burnming the FC5 ISOs at the slowest speed, just because I saw the benefit of that before. But the fact that it DOES boot to the FC Disk 1, but fails during the hardware scan, seems to indicate a different issue than burn speed. I spent most of the weekend working on a presentation we were doing for $$ so I ran out of time to tinker with it. Thanks for the continued feedback. |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
I have installed FC5 on a 2500. A few things to watch
1. Make sure you use the memory statements as described in other postings 2. Make sure you do the system erase as described etc.. 3. Test each of the FC5 discs using the CDROM drive you are going to install from. The FC5 disks are larger (more data) than previous FC releases and I have seen a number of early CDROM drives that will fail to read all the data. If you can't read part of the disc and need what's on it you'll get a failed installation - happened to me with a DL360 (IDE drive) and a set of FC5 discs which worked perfectly on another system. |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
OK, Fedora Core and I were at odds this evening. I decided to turn the
tables 1) I ran SmartStart to begin from scratch. 2) I found my old Redhat Linux 9 CDs. 3) I booted to CD #1 4) At the install prompt, (after a couple of mis-steps) I typed "linux mem=exactmap mem=640k@0m mem=128M@1m" 5) I was pleased to see that no errors came up. The install began and I did a custom install of RH9. I must've made 1 mistake however. At the end, the install recommended I make a boot diskette, which I did. When I restarted, the server wouldn't boot to the hard disk. When I put the diskette in, it booted to a prompt. I re-typed "linux mem=exactmap mem=640k@0m mem=128M@1m" at the prompt, and up it came. I was able to log in as root. Then I edited my grub.conf file to include the "mem" stuff in the kernal line. I have now downloaded apt and am doing an upgrade of RH9. Tomorrow, I am going to try to figure out why I can't boot to the hard disk. Once that is resolved, I will begin attempting to upgrade to FC1 and then work my way up to FC5. There seem to be some good instructions on the web for that process. Thabks again for the help! Steve |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
NewsReader wrote: The FC5 disks are larger (more data) than previous FC releases and I have seen a number of early CDROM drives that will fail to read all the data. If you can't read part of the disc and need what's on it you'll get a failed installation - happened to me with a DL360 (IDE drive) and a set of FC5 discs which worked perfectly on another system. That makes sense to me. The 2500 came, stock, with a 2x or 4x CD Drive. Are you suggesting that this drive should be upgraded first? I know that a good working 48x drive can be picked up for around $5...and you would certainly be happier down the road. Jeff |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
Jeffrey Alsip wrote:
NewsReader wrote: The FC5 disks are larger (more data) than previous FC releases and I have seen a number of early CDROM drives that will fail to read all the data. If you can't read part of the disc and need what's on it you'll get a failed installation - happened to me with a DL360 (IDE drive) and a set of FC5 discs which worked perfectly on another system. That makes sense to me. The 2500 came, stock, with a 2x or 4x CD Drive. Are you suggesting that this drive should be upgraded first? I know that a good working 48x drive can be picked up for around $5...and you would certainly be happier down the road. Jeff I'm suggesting that the media check is a required part of the install process and should be completed for all of the discs to determine if the drive can read them. If you also want more speed, go for the upgraded drive. But you need to be sure the discs are fully readable on whatever drive you choose as a part of troubleshooting an installation problem. It's a black-box problem-solving exercise. You have two objects which do not work reliably together. Which one is bad? Maybe both are... How can you figure it out... |
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Fedora Core 5 on Compaq Proliant 2500
The FC5 install is failing on me before I ever get to the "test the
media" level. The only opportunity I have to interact with it is at the linux prompt. That's where I used the "exactmem" commands. After that, it prepares to install for about 1 minute and hangs. The optical drive in the system is a newer HP CD/RW. I was actually thinking about backing it down to a standard CD-ROM before I got RH9 to load to see if my problem was too much drive as opposed to too little. You're the first I've seen who said they were actually able to install FC5 on a 2500. That's good news. Mine has dual PPro 200 CPUs and 320MB of RAM. I ran XWindows last night and it worked great, but when I logged out, I got an error that the system had crashed out of the interface and it hung up the system. Now that I'm on RH9, I ran an apt update/upgrade and d/l 161 updates. That took nearly an hour, so I went to bed. Tonight I plan to attempt a kernal upgrade. Then I want to begin the RH9 to FC1 upgrade. Steve NewsReader wrote: I have installed FC5 on a 2500. A few things to watch 1. Make sure you use the memory statements as described in other postings 2. Make sure you do the system erase as described etc.. 3. Test each of the FC5 discs using the CDROM drive you are going to install from. The FC5 disks are larger (more data) than previous FC releases and I have seen a number of early CDROM drives that will fail to read all the data. If you can't read part of the disc and need what's on it you'll get a failed installation - happened to me with a DL360 (IDE drive) and a set of FC5 discs which worked perfectly on another system. |
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