out of range - can't get in to safe mode

Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should
be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor.

On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote:
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should
be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor.


Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options
through F8 in windows 7 ..

F8 options in Vista (and windows 7)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode

Repair your computer
Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt
Enable boot logging
Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)
Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)
Directory services restore mode
Debugging mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure
Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
Start Windows normally

"123Jim" wrote in message
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On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote:
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should
be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor.


Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options
through F8 in windows 7 ..

F8 options in Vista (and windows 7)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode

Repair your computer
Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt
Enable boot logging
Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)
Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)
Directory services restore mode
Debugging mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure
Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
Start Windows normally

VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option.

"Ian D" wrote in message
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"123Jim" wrote in message
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On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote:
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should
be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor.


Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot options
through F8 in windows 7 ..

F8 options in Vista (and windows 7)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode

Repair your computer
Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt
Enable boot logging
Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)
Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)
Directory services restore mode
Debugging mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure
Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
Start Windows normally

VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option.

I forgot to mention that this is not safe mode. It's a
fully operational mode with all drivers and services
running, but at a much reduced resolution. Also,
it will probably mess up your desktop it will attempt
to fit all icons into the 640 x 480 window.

On 24/09/2011 20:52, Ian D wrote:

"123Jim" wrote in message
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On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote:
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should
be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor.


Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot
options through F8 in windows 7 ..

F8 options in Vista (and windows 7)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode


Repair your computer
Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt
Enable boot logging
Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)
Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)
Directory services restore mode
Debugging mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure
Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
Start Windows normally

VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option.

Right, thanks, but that boots to normal mode not safe mode ....
I've even removed the graphics card and tried using the graphics
integrated into the motherboard .. but with the same results ..

On 09/24/2011 03:41 PM, 123Jim wrote:
On 24/09/2011 20:52, Ian D wrote:

"123Jim" wrote in message
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On 24/09/2011 07:41, Grinder wrote:
On 9/23/2011 11:42 PM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on
this computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct
mode to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date
drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to
get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

F8 for the boot menu, and start up in VGA mode. From there, you should
be able to set a video mode that works with your monitor.


Unfortunately there does not appear to be a VGA mode in the boot
options through F8 in windows 7 ..

F8 options in Vista (and windows 7)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ding-safe-mode



Repair your computer
Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt
Enable boot logging
Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)
Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)
Directory services restore mode
Debugging mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure
Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
Start Windows normally

VGA mode = 640 x 480. Try that option.

Right, thanks, but that boots to normal mode not safe mode ....
I've even removed the graphics card and tried using the graphics
integrated into the motherboard .. but with the same results ..



Why beat a dead horse
just connect your large screen monitor that you know works with your
video resolution

On 9/24/2011 12:42 AM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this
computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode
to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

If all else fails, use the MB manufacturer's approved procedure to clear CMOS

On 9/24/2011 12:42 AM, 123Jim wrote:
Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this
computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode
to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?

Random musings:

Have you cleared CMOS?

In the BIOS, assuming that you can do anything, what is the video device
setting? There can be some negotiations going on during boot and you may
need to re-set it to recognize the onboard video before removing the PCI
video card.

In a pinch, uninstalling devices such as the video card and monitor in
device manager can force the computer to reconsider its options. I say this
only because your post suggests that you actually can get into 'normal
mode'. I've never gotten into trouble doing this but I'm not guaranteeing
that it is totally safe either.

"123Jim" wrote in message
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Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
Display adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4550

I've connected my usual CRT monitor in order to fix a few problems on this
computer but I can't access safe mode as I get the message

'Out of range - H: 75.0K V: 59.9'

75.0K is flashing in red
59.9 is blue.

This computer would normally be connected to a large LCD screen.

It seems like the graphics adapter is refusing to run in the correct mode
to run safe mode with this monitor .. It has the most up to date drivers.

I've fixed most of the problems on this computer but I just want to get
into safe mode to run system restore (it didn't work in normal mode)

any ideas?



Here's my whacky suggestion...

1: Disconnect the monitor.
2: Power up the PC.
3: Wait until you're sure it's finished booting up.
4: Plug in monitor while power is on.

.... this should invoke the plug 'n' play discovery of the connected monitor
specs and resolve the issue.

Hope this helps

Andy