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Presario 4180 HDD troubles
Did you use the same IDE cable in the other boxes? If not, it might be the
cable. Otherwise, try moving the hard drive to a different power supply connector, I'd also check all drive power supply leads for proper voltage levels. I prefer to check the voltage levels when a drive is not plugged into the power supply. Between the black (ground) and yellow, it should read 12 Volts positive. Between the black (ground) and red, it should read 5 Volts positive. You could also try moving the hard drive to the secondary controller, or an IDE controller card in the PCI slot. Good luck, report back and let us know what fixed it. Mike in Houston Sent at 1333 Central time "Jon Pumfleet" wrote in message om... This ageing PC stopped seeing it's existing Bigfoot HDD after I'd been under the hood upgrading memory. I've reseated all the connections and still it will not see, or boot from, the HDD. I can't run CPQ diagnostics as the compaq partition got destroyed a long time ago. The bigfoot drive works fine in other machines. I've backed out the memory upgrade with no effect. I have a little utility "ide.exe" which detects connected devices, and it tells me no devices are attached. I've tried several drives which I know to be OK. What's going on? Disk controller failure? Mboard? Don't understand why it would give up slowly (seemed to work 1 time in 10, then a week later, not at all....) Thanks for any help anyone! |
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I can't run CPQ
diagnostics as the compaq partition got destroyed a long time ago It can be run from diskette if you download and create it from the Compaq/HP website. Also try clearing the CMOS, and a different IDE cable, as someone else suggested... Dale |
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Uh, Mike, the subject line says 4180, not 4810. If so, it's a non-North
American old Non-MMX pentium box. Certainly not worth spending any $$ on. HH "Mike Calkins" wrote in message . .. Since you have other systems, I assume you have other drives. Sill the 4810 'see' any IDE hard drive in the 4810? If not, the disk controller may be bad. I know that this is probably redundant, but check the jumpers on the bigfoot. First try cable select, if that doesn't work, set it for master, (DS) with no other IDE devices on that IDE channel. Where are you at, Jon? Mike in Houston "Jon Pumfleet" wrote in message om... Thanks Mike -- both ideas make sense. I've tried a new IDE cable, and run the hard drive from the PSU of the machine sat next to it. In both cases, I get a 1790 Disk 0 error. If I run it from the secondary controller I get a disk controller error. The machine boots fine from floppy. Sometimes I get no error, but the screen clears and the cursor moves to top-left, and it stays like that. I never get a "non system disk or disk error". I feel I must be missing something obvious -- each component tests OK on its own, except the motherboard & controller, but I doubt they are the cause because the problem developed slowly, after I'd presumably knocked/touched something. JP |
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Excuse me, I transposed the model number.....
As it's a 41xx series, you may have overtaxed the power supply. Try removing cards that you may have added. (including RAM). Good luck, Let us know. Mike "Mike Calkins" wrote in message . .. Since you have other systems, I assume you have other drives. Sill the 4810 'see' any IDE hard drive in the 4810? If not, the disk controller may be bad. I know that this is probably redundant, but check the jumpers on the bigfoot. First try cable select, if that doesn't work, set it for master, (DS) with no other IDE devices on that IDE channel. Where are you at, Jon? Mike in Houston "Jon Pumfleet" wrote in message om... Thanks Mike -- both ideas make sense. I've tried a new IDE cable, and run the hard drive from the PSU of the machine sat next to it. In both cases, I get a 1790 Disk 0 error. If I run it from the secondary controller I get a disk controller error. The machine boots fine from floppy. Sometimes I get no error, but the screen clears and the cursor moves to top-left, and it stays like that. I never get a "non system disk or disk error". I feel I must be missing something obvious -- each component tests OK on its own, except the motherboard & controller, but I doubt they are the cause because the problem developed slowly, after I'd presumably knocked/touched something. JP |
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Mike - yeah, I've tried other drives, all with the same results. Now
I've ruled out the HDD, the cable, the power supply, looks like it must be the controller...which is on-board...so looks like it's time to trash it & start again. BTW I'm in London, England -- but it's always a fair guess with exxonmobil in my email address that I'd be in Texas! In fact I work daily with colleagues in downtown Houston (Fannin st.) and also the Bell building ("Ugliest building in Houston") and have been out there a few times...nights out on Richmond etc. Hope the storms didn't get y'all! Jon "Mike Calkins" wrote in message ... Since you have other systems, I assume you have other drives. Sill the 4810 'see' any IDE hard drive in the 4810? If not, the disk controller may be bad. I know that this is probably redundant, but check the jumpers on the bigfoot. First try cable select, if that doesn't work, set it for master, (DS) with no other IDE devices on that IDE channel. Where are you at, Jon? Mike in Houston |
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Thanks Henry, caught it after it was sent, and sent an update. One man's
trash is another man's treasure. Perhaps to him, it is worth recovering / restoring. Anyone interested in an original Compaq Portable? Mike in Houston "HH" wrote in message . .. Uh, Mike, the subject line says 4180, not 4810. If so, it's a non-North American old Non-MMX pentium box. Certainly not worth spending any $$ on. HH "Mike Calkins" wrote in message . .. Since you have other systems, I assume you have other drives. Sill the 4810 'see' any IDE hard drive in the 4810? If not, the disk controller may be bad. I know that this is probably redundant, but check the jumpers on the bigfoot. First try cable select, if that doesn't work, set it for master, (DS) with no other IDE devices on that IDE channel. Where are you at, Jon? Mike in Houston "Jon Pumfleet" wrote in message om... Thanks Mike -- both ideas make sense. I've tried a new IDE cable, and run the hard drive from the PSU of the machine sat next to it. In both cases, I get a 1790 Disk 0 error. If I run it from the secondary controller I get a disk controller error. The machine boots fine from floppy. Sometimes I get no error, but the screen clears and the cursor moves to top-left, and it stays like that. I never get a "non system disk or disk error". I feel I must be missing something obvious -- each component tests OK on its own, except the motherboard & controller, but I doubt they are the cause because the problem developed slowly, after I'd presumably knocked/touched something. JP |
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If the controller is dead, a secondary controller may spark life into the
beastie. (Though others may feel that the beastie ought to be put out of it's misery.) Ahh London, you lucky dog. And yes, the storm missed us by inches. Galveston, Surfside, and Freeport got hammered, though. 2 lives lost, so far. So much for a day at the beach. Good luck, Jon. Mike in Houston "Jon Pumfleet" wrote in message om... Mike - yeah, I've tried other drives, all with the same results. Now I've ruled out the HDD, the cable, the power supply, looks like it must be the controller...which is on-board...so looks like it's time to trash it & start again. BTW I'm in London, England -- but it's always a fair guess with exxonmobil in my email address that I'd be in Texas! In fact I work daily with colleagues in downtown Houston (Fannin st.) and also the Bell building ("Ugliest building in Houston") and have been out there a few times...nights out on Richmond etc. Hope the storms didn't get y'all! Jon "Mike Calkins" wrote in message ... Since you have other systems, I assume you have other drives. Sill the 4810 'see' any IDE hard drive in the 4810? If not, the disk controller may be bad. I know that this is probably redundant, but check the jumpers on the bigfoot. First try cable select, if that doesn't work, set it for master, (DS) with no other IDE devices on that IDE channel. Where are you at, Jon? Mike in Houston |
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Did you try a CMOS reset, as I posted earlier that you might try?
Bang, bang, bang.... testing, one, two, three.... is this mic working?..... Dale |
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Hey Dale - thanks yeah I did try a CMOS reset last night, and sure
enough, I got my hard drive back! Woohoo, BUT, now I've lost the CDROM which is on the secondary channel. It's my Dad's PC, he's on vacation this week, but gets back on Saturday, clock's ticking! Thanks for your help! Jon. |
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Good tip - they're cheap, I'll see if I can get one today. I'm not
sure the compaq bios has an option to allow me to disable the on-board controller though. I tried a CMOS reset last night, and sure enough I got my hard drive back, but have lost the CD-ROM (secondary controller) so something's clearly not right. I'll check the CMOS settings (haven't had time yet) to see if the secondary device is configured correctly (what drive type should I use for a CD ROM? Type 65 isn't available for selection....) London's great but bear in mind my whole house is probably the size of your bathroom! Thanks Mike! "Mike Calkins" wrote in message gy.com... If the controller is dead, a secondary controller may spark life into the beastie. (Though others may feel that the beastie ought to be put out of it's misery.) Ahh London, you lucky dog. And yes, the storm missed us by inches. Galveston, Surfside, and Freeport got hammered, though. 2 lives lost, so far. So much for a day at the beach. Good luck, Jon. |
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