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Konica Minolta 2300DL printing on photo-quality paper
Does anyone have suggestions on printing photos on this 2300DL ?
Sometimes known as Konica-Minolta 2300DL, other times as a QMS 2300DL. Colors look great on ordinary laser paper but I've tried various brands of photo-quality paper, both glossy and semi-glossy, and I get crappy results each time. Not much help from tech support at Konica-Minolta, which has been great up to now. Thanks. |
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The problems are several with this printer.
Firstly it cannot handle greater than 160 GSM paper. Most good (laser) photo quality is 225 GSM Second is the fuser. It simply doesn't get hot enough. You can partly overcome this by selecting "Thick Stock" regardless of using plain paper or not. When you do this you get enough heat to melt the lubrication in the toner an produce a sort of semi gloss finish. You might also care to find some gloss 'Xerox' brand 120 or 160 GSM paper. Otherwise try 'Neusiedler' brand colour copy paper. Whatever you do... DO NOT put inkjet paper through it! wrote in message oups.com... Does anyone have suggestions on printing photos on this 2300DL ? Sometimes known as Konica-Minolta 2300DL, other times as a QMS 2300DL. Colors look great on ordinary laser paper but I've tried various brands of photo-quality paper, both glossy and semi-glossy, and I get crappy results each time. Not much help from tech support at Konica-Minolta, which has been great up to now. Thanks. |
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If you are using inkjet paper in your laser printer, it is NOT appropriate.
Xerox and other company make semi-gloss and glossy laser papers. However, the Minolta printers have a quite low gloss toner, giving very matte results. (I happen to really like it that way!) Using semi-gloss or gloss paper doesn't look great because the exposed areas will be glossy while the toner covered areas will be relatively matte. By far, the best answer is to laminate matte surfaced papers or card stock, using semi-gloss or glossy surface laminates. You will usually need to laminate both sides, because the laminate adhesive is thermal and tends to cause a lot of curling otherwise. If you buy laminate in quantity and use 3 mil or less, it can be almost the same price as the "photo" paper, and it is well protected. Art wrote: Does anyone have suggestions on printing photos on this 2300DL ? Sometimes known as Konica-Minolta 2300DL, other times as a QMS 2300DL. Colors look great on ordinary laser paper but I've tried various brands of photo-quality paper, both glossy and semi-glossy, and I get crappy results each time. Not much help from tech support at Konica-Minolta, which has been great up to now. Thanks. |
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This is very useful information.
I use a 199GSM card/cover stock (matte) for my color laser printing (currently done by a contractor on a professional machine). Is the problem with heavier paper the inability of the fuser to heat it fully (and thus the toner doesn't adhere fully)? Or is it transport problems with slippage, or both? I wonder if to speed up output they didn't sacrifice paper thickness and if it could be adjusted via an internal or firmware/software adjustment. On this printer does switching to the "Thick stock" option slow the paper transport at the fuser so it has more time to heat, or does it seem to boast the heating level of the fuser? Other than creating a glossier result, does using the "Thick stock" option alter the output in other ways, such as smears, loss of sharpness, change of color fidelity, color density, etc? I wonder if any 3rd party toner might work with a different fusing temperature (lower)? Art One Million Pictures wrote: The problems are several with this printer. Firstly it cannot handle greater than 160 GSM paper. Most good (laser) photo quality is 225 GSM Second is the fuser. It simply doesn't get hot enough. You can partly overcome this by selecting "Thick Stock" regardless of using plain paper or not. When you do this you get enough heat to melt the lubrication in the toner an produce a sort of semi gloss finish. You might also care to find some gloss 'Xerox' brand 120 or 160 GSM paper. Otherwise try 'Neusiedler' brand colour copy paper. Whatever you do... DO NOT put inkjet paper through it! wrote in message oups.com... Does anyone have suggestions on printing photos on this 2300DL ? Sometimes known as Konica-Minolta 2300DL, other times as a QMS 2300DL. Colors look great on ordinary laser paper but I've tried various brands of photo-quality paper, both glossy and semi-glossy, and I get crappy results each time. Not much help from tech support at Konica-Minolta, which has been great up to now. Thanks. |
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"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:813Ed.49277$nN6.22734@edtnps84... This is very useful information. I use a 199GSM card/cover stock (matte) for my color laser printing (currently done by a contractor on a professional machine). Is the problem with heavier paper the inability of the fuser to heat it fully (and thus the toner doesn't adhere fully)? Or is it transport problems with slippage, or both? I wonder if to speed up output they didn't sacrifice paper thickness and if it could be adjusted via an internal or firmware/software adjustment. On this printer does switching to the "Thick stock" option slow the paper transport at the fuser so it has more time to heat, or does it seem to boast the heating level of the fuser? Other than creating a glossier result, does using the "Thick stock" option alter the output in other ways, such as smears, loss of sharpness, change of color fidelity, color density, etc? I wonder if any 3rd party toner might work with a different fusing temperature (lower)? Art Forget third party toner in a Minolta... Absolutely! Choosing 'thick stock' reduces the printing speed from 4 pages per minute to about 1.5 pages per minute. If ever you try to print several copies on thick stock without setting the thing... It will result in toner being spread all over both sides of the paper. You'll have to do a thick stock run with a few sheets of plain paper to clean it. I haven't had slippage up to 250 GSM. What happens with thick card is it gets drag marks on it from forcing it through the tight paper path. A much better (A4) printer for card is a Lexmark. They are a few hundred dearer but paper handling is up to 225 GSM and the photos 'look better' than from a Minolta 2300. I have both 2300 and 7300 Minolta printers... They were the edge of the pack when they were put on the market a few years ago. Now, they are sadly in need of a re-design to get them up to specs. |
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Thank you for the description and advice. I have been entertaining a
color laser for the convenience, and as much as I like the Minolta output , and its nice matte surface on color laser bond paper, I need to be able to put heavy stock through. I recall looking at the 7300 some years back, quite a beast size wise, but the 12 x 18" ability was so nice looking. It's a pity that Minolta hasn't addressed the thick paper issue thoroughly, because I still like the output. The Lexmarks I looked at a few years back were not up to the Minoltas, but perhaps things have improved. I've been very disappointed in Lexmark inkjet, so it always makes me nervous. What's interesting is the Minolta color copiers handle heavy stock rather well. Too bad that hasn't trickled down into the laser printers. Thanks again, I think you might have saved me some headaches. Art One Million Pictures wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:813Ed.49277$nN6.22734@edtnps84... This is very useful information. I use a 199GSM card/cover stock (matte) for my color laser printing (currently done by a contractor on a professional machine). Is the problem with heavier paper the inability of the fuser to heat it fully (and thus the toner doesn't adhere fully)? Or is it transport problems with slippage, or both? I wonder if to speed up output they didn't sacrifice paper thickness and if it could be adjusted via an internal or firmware/software adjustment. On this printer does switching to the "Thick stock" option slow the paper transport at the fuser so it has more time to heat, or does it seem to boast the heating level of the fuser? Other than creating a glossier result, does using the "Thick stock" option alter the output in other ways, such as smears, loss of sharpness, change of color fidelity, color density, etc? I wonder if any 3rd party toner might work with a different fusing temperature (lower)? Art Forget third party toner in a Minolta... Absolutely! Choosing 'thick stock' reduces the printing speed from 4 pages per minute to about 1.5 pages per minute. If ever you try to print several copies on thick stock without setting the thing... It will result in toner being spread all over both sides of the paper. You'll have to do a thick stock run with a few sheets of plain paper to clean it. I haven't had slippage up to 250 GSM. What happens with thick card is it gets drag marks on it from forcing it through the tight paper path. A much better (A4) printer for card is a Lexmark. They are a few hundred dearer but paper handling is up to 225 GSM and the photos 'look better' than from a Minolta 2300. I have both 2300 and 7300 Minolta printers... They were the edge of the pack when they were put on the market a few years ago. Now, they are sadly in need of a re-design to get them up to specs. |
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This may sound a bit mickey mouse but I now print a fair bit of stuff
on really thick paper on my 2300DL by manually helping to pull the paper out of the printer. The stupid thing is it prints fine on say 300gsm paper but it only fails to drop the paper into the output tray. By gently pulling the paper when it appears out the top has allowed me to make much more use of the printer. |
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How well do the toners adhere to the paper when you use heavy weighted
papers? How even is the result of the toner image when you pull them out from the fuser? Art m6nar wrote: This may sound a bit mickey mouse but I now print a fair bit of stuff on really thick paper on my 2300DL by manually helping to pull the paper out of the printer. The stupid thing is it prints fine on say 300gsm paper but it only fails to drop the paper into the output tray. By gently pulling the paper when it appears out the top has allowed me to make much more use of the printer. |
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Is it laser paper? If not you are looking for trouble.
"m6nar" wrote in message ... This may sound a bit mickey mouse but I now print a fair bit of stuff on really thick paper on my 2300DL by manually helping to pull the paper out of the printer. The stupid thing is it prints fine on say 300gsm paper but it only fails to drop the paper into the output tray. By gently pulling the paper when it appears out the top has allowed me to make much more use of the printer. |
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