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Intel to announce Coffee Lake during solar eclipse?
i5 becomes sex-core, i3 becomes tetra-core
so AMD has really fired them up and claiming at least 11% performance boost over Kaby baby but what about an i9? are they struggling to get many-core working at 14 nm? |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 19/08/2017 9:29 AM, wrote: i5 becomes sex-core, i3 becomes tetra-core so AMD has really fired them up and claiming at least 11% performance boost over Kaby baby It would be interesting seeing how they got an additional 11% performance out of the core, when for years they couldn't? It's a marketing ploy. I don't think they're talking about single threaded performance. They switch from two cores to four cores, then compare how much performance they get in the same power footprint. Something like that. The rudder has kinda fallen off the Intel boat. This core madness (ThreadRipper) serves to push the price graph further up and to the right, so that "rich people have more options". The process did push Intel to change how they connect cores (grid instead of rings) on their high-core-count products, and that's a good thing (potential progress). But in terms of utility, people who fall for the sales pitch and don't know what to do with these things, are going to be disappointed. The desktop will paint with the same old speed. Firefox will open as slowly. And so on. This is not the switch from a 300MHz Celeron (with no cache) to a 1400MHz Tualatin. There are people, who will use these extra cores to advantage. Workstation people. But for the bubblegum/Facebook crowd, this is not for them. Gaming on a ThreadRipper, doesn't seem to be that good a fit. Rendering a bunch of movies at one time, might work well. The i3 quad core *is* an improvement, in that the level of background activity in Win10 is tending to swamp a dual core, and in a sense, the quad core is merely keeping up with the pace of "maintenance activity" on Win10. Three cores for Microsoft, one core for you. I've tested Win10 on my single core laptop, and it's OK as long as the network cable is disconnected. On my current machine, running Win10 in VirtualBox on this dual core, it tends to rail things. If I was shopping for a hardware platform now, it would be four core minimum (either 4C 4T or 4C 8T). I think AMD could make more money off Raven Ridge AM4 (4C) when it comes out, than off this other moon-shot stuff. Raven Ridge will be available in laptops soon, so it'll be possible to see benchmarks before the AM4 version shows up for desktops. To see whether it's a bust or not. And the delayed launch also gives time for a die respin, if there was a need for one. Paul |
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Intel to announce Coffee Lake during solar eclipse?
On 23/08/2017 12:54 PM, Paul wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote: On 19/08/2017 9:29 AM, wrote: i5 becomes sex-core, i3 becomes tetra-core so AMD has really fired them up and claiming at least 11% performance boost over Kaby baby It would be interesting seeing how they got an additional 11% performance out of the core, when for years they couldn't? It's a marketing ploy. I don't think they're talking about single threaded performance. They switch from two cores to four cores, then compare how much performance they get in the same power footprint. Something like that. The rudder has kinda fallen off the Intel boat. Except they also had a separate benchmark for multithreaded performance, and that was up as well (obviously, since there are more cores and threads). Can't remember the percentage improvements for those. The i3 quad core *is* an improvement, in that the level of background activity in Win10 is tending to swamp a dual core, and in a sense, the quad core is merely keeping up with the pace of "maintenance activity" on Win10. Three cores for Microsoft, one core for you. I've tested Win10 on my single core laptop, and it's OK as long as the network cable is disconnected. On my current machine, running Win10 in VirtualBox on this dual core, it tends to rail things. If I was shopping for a hardware platform now, it would be four core minimum (either 4C 4T or 4C 8T). I think the Core i3 is the biggest beneficiary from this. It was being severely squeezed from all sides in its pricing category. It was being squeezed by the Ryzen 3 from above, and from Pentium from below. This past generation of i3 was the first where reviewers were actively telling people to not buy the i3 and instead get a Pentium. A quad-core i3 will put it on par with a Ryzen 3. Yousuf Khan -- Sent from Giganews on Thunderbird on my Toshiba laptop |
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Intel to announce Coffee Lake during solar eclipse?
On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 12:54:10 AM UTC+8, Paul wrote:
There are people, who will use these extra cores to advantage. Workstation people. But for the bubblegum/Facebook crowd, this is not for them. Gaming on a ThreadRipper, doesn't seem to be that good a fit. Rendering a bunch of movies at one time, might work well. Tommy's Hardware had a full review of the Ripper, and yes it was not so hot for gaming, but awesome for geophysical number crunching. Possibly how the parallel processing is implemented in these different arenas. |
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Intel to announce Coffee Lake during solar eclipse?
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 11:46:31 AM UTC+8, Yousuf Khan wrote:
The people doing the most work with multi-core/multi-threaded processors is the guys making the latest Doom and Wolfenstein games. The new Wolfenstein is apparently able to use every thread and core of the Threadrippers, which is amazing! Great that somebody is capable of supporting it. I presume the "game mode" for Threadripper was putting it all one one die, with no SMT. |
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