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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
Skybuck Flying wrote:
What do you do if you need to try again ? Remove everything and a new dot ? Or just add a little bit more ? In last case that kinda defeat the whole purpose eh ? Bye, Skybuck. 1) One objective, is to remove any air bubbles. That requires cleaning off the stuff on there already. Wipe off enough, until a white haze is all that's left. You don't have to clean it until it is shiny again. Just wipe off the excess. 2) Apply your calibrated dot of paste, then squash the cooler onto the dot, and fasten the clip. You're done. Inspect from the side (with a mirror), and check that the joint between CPU and cooler, shows a bit of paste. That proves the installation worked. If you can't see paste on the joint between CPU and cooler, you need more paste (bigger dot of paste). If the CPU is cool enough now that the machine is not shutting down, you don't have to do anything. But if you feel the computer is running hotter than other people using the same processor, then fixing the paste might help. Your processor is probably good to at least 65C. Just a guess. That's 65C Tcase. Also, have you checked thar BIOS setting yet ? When the cursor is placed on the shutdown item, do the "+" or "-" keys do anything ? If you can adjust the BIOS-controlled shutdown, again, maybe you don't need to do anything except disable the shutdown. You see, that BIOS shutdown, is not the only shutdown feature. There is still THERMTRIP (hardware protection). So you are always protected against a damaging level of heat. The BIOS feature, would be in addition to THERMTRIP. Paul |
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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
Skybuck Flying wrote:
You are not alone. My DreamPC for 2006 and fixed throughout the years also cannot handle the heat. Not even with an Antec 1200 case, somewhat cleaned. At 27 celcius degrees, the CPU gets so hot that the motherboard's bios shuts down the PC. The temperature shutdown seems to be at 50 according to motherboard settings. Where's the thermal sensor placed? If it is on the die itself, it'll show rather higher values than an external one... So there I will be... playing Company of Heroes and all of a sudden... booom... it shuts off. Well at least this will prevent frying damage or so... so I kinda like it as long as it doesnt happen well I am busy with something important So far it has not happened with anything important just gaming. The solution for me for now is to keep the doors and windows open and allow some cool breeze to come in... this will drop the temperature down to 26 degrees celcius. So my computer crashing or not crashing depands on 1 or 2 degrees. Apperently the AMD X2 3800+ CPU is rated at about 85 watts or so... apperently that's way too hot. I am not happy with how CPU's are marketted today... They all have the same name and same model number... sometimes there will be a letter behind the cpu's model number for example for latest intel haswell processor a T. Apperently the T versions run at reduced clock rates, which makes them consume less energy... instead of 85 watts it will be 65 watts or 45 or 35 watts or something. So I was thinking... maybe it's time to ditch the AMD x2+ 3800+ crap cpu... and switch to something else... But this could be an expensive joke: Probably new power supply needed, new motherboard, new memory... maybe even new graphics card or maybe not. What's further annoying is the cheap **** that's between the wafer and the cpu heatspread apperently this could be replaced and make it drop some degrees. Not sure what happens if my finger would touch a waver if that would be the end of it. Does seem interesting but at 35 watts or 45 watts doing that might not be necessary. For now I will see how it goes however... there are very hot days ahead... so keeping the doors open might not be possible. Right now I am thinking... maybe there still is a socket 939 processor somewhere.... with much lower heat... that could be nice... but then me would be a little bit worried about the performance Maybe even a single core. Bye, Skybuck. |
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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
Johann Klammer wrote:
Skybuck Flying wrote: You are not alone. My DreamPC for 2006 and fixed throughout the years also cannot handle the heat. Not even with an Antec 1200 case, somewhat cleaned. At 27 celcius degrees, the CPU gets so hot that the motherboard's bios shuts down the PC. The temperature shutdown seems to be at 50 according to motherboard settings. Where's the thermal sensor placed? If it is on the die itself, it'll show rather higher values than an external one... Look at his picture again. http://www.skybuck.org/Winfast/Tempe...th1GHZMode.png The silicon die has at least two sensors, if you believe the picture. As for the other four listed sensors, sometimes those are fake (open circuit). A person should load up Prime95 or cpuburn or similar 100% CPU program, then watch *all* the sensors, to see which ones move, which ones move fast, which ones move slow. The fast moving ones, are right on the silicon die. The slow moving ones are elsewhere. The rate of change will distinguish all but a few, such as a Northbridge sensor from a motherboard case ambient sensor. I doubt they'd bother with the old socket sensor tape, when the S939 has internal diode sensing. I have a motherboard, where a "THRM" input accepts my RadioShack thermistor, and I use that to measure room temperature outside the case. Not many motherboards provide a two pin header for that kind of thing. But that's an example of what they can do with left over channels on the SuperIO hardware monitor. Paul |
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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:33:51 +0200, Johann Klammer
wrote: The solution for me for now is to keep the doors and windows open and allow some cool breeze to come in... this will drop the temperature down to 26 degrees celcius. So my computer crashing or not crashing depands on 1 or 2 degrees. Apperently the AMD X2 3800+ CPU is rated at about 85 watts or so... apperently that's way too hot. I am not happy with how CPU's are marketted today... Think I've the same processor. I like mine, though. You should set it up right in the bios, to where it doesn't shut down. What's AMD's specs on it: 175F for the lower end of "toasty" ratings? Decent heatsink -- and 130F can be expected, especially since made back when they were drawing some wattage. No sweat. Gonn'a sell it, too? That's how and where I got mine, too - $10US Ebay used. Working great no issues for a year or so. Make somebody happy. Nice case. . .got a CoolerMaster monster CPU/heatsink to go with it? They're cheap, too. Only trouble with AMD and temps I had are past - pushing 130F way back when, well before dual cores. Thing to watch out for is instability. Playing hell with, say, archives and compression, when the processor is introducing errors due to a partially fried brain is the Big No No. Test everything, for sure, but that processor was blowing away anything comparable by way of Intel pricing I've yet to run into (skip the Pentium D architecture and check out present Conroe pricing). |
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On 20/07/2013 3:43 PM, Desmond wrote:
It is so hot here this summer that my computer crashes when it gets hot. I was looking into water cooled pc cases. Is it safe to buy a kit. Also the prices vary from £199 to £1,400. Did you forget to re-apply thermal compound to your CPU cooler? -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora 19 i686) Linux 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 ^ ^ 23:00:03 up 1:32 0 users load average: 0.04 0.08 0.06 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
Try this sometime if you haven't:
4 little dots in each corner ?! + + + + Bye, Skybuck |
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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
Hmmm better ignore the 4 dots method lol..
It probably stupid... It will probably create big air bubbles near the center which would be worst case situation At least the dot method pushes air out to the sides Then again I wonder what my smearing has for an effective Maybe a few micro bubbles here and there At least corners well done Bye, Skybuck. |
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Help my PC is dying of heat exhaustion
Settings can be changed from 45 to 55 or 60 or so as far as I know if it's
capable of being disabled I dont know. But I like the feature... so I am going to leave it as it is. Didn't have any more shutdown problems. Though windows wouldn't be windows if it didn't have other problems. Now that windows 7 is un power saver mode... the login screen will freeze up the pc if I dont login. Have to do a hard reset and reboot. Not sure if this is because of a driver issue or if it's a windows 7 bug. Bye, Skybuck. |
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