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In article , "Lothar" wrote:
I have just re-built my system with a A8V deluxe mainboard and Athlon 64 3500+ CPU and I have one weird problem that I have not seen before. The video output will suddenly die and then after a few seconds the system will just reboot. This happens when resizing a window or moving an app. This has only happens once or twice a day and other than that the system is stable. I do believe that it is video related as one time my monitor displayed a frequency out of range warning when it happened. I did a clean OS install and have loaded all the latest hardware drivers and A8V bios. I am not over clocking in any way. Below are my system specs, any help would be appreciated. I need to get the system stable before Doom 3. (Just kidding, well sort of) Asus A8V main board Athlon 64 3500+ 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR-3200 LL ATI Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 ZS Windows XP Pro Thanks, Lothar Your post sounds similar to your situation. A video problem caused by an underlying memory problem. http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...&highlight=a8v "Try changing you async latency to 6 or higher for the memory timings instead of auto. Change the trc to 7" The Corsair will have the SPD coded for aggressive timings by default. These timings may be too much for the A64. There is also a page on the Mushkin site, claiming some timing parameters are being too tight, "because the processor is so fast". Another way of stating this, is the Athlon64 memory controller is very complicated, and many many timing parameters are exposed. There are more parameters than are specified in the SPD. On the one hand, the designer at AMD who did this can say, "no matter what bug is in the silicon, we have a workaround", but on the other hand, the BIOS coders at AMI are probably getting heart failure from trying to write code to set up the A64. It is possible that one of the parameters is "off by 1", making the ram settings tighter than the BIOS interface and timing numbers show. (Look for "high tRCD", for a suggestion to bump up tRCD by 1. BTW: This article needs a rewrite. And some substance to their claims, like observing the timing with test equipment.) http://www.mushkin.com/epages/Mushki...serTemplate/27 So, as a start, try the advice in the Abxzone thread. Test the results, using memtest86 from memtest.org as the first test. This will require a blank floppy, or the preparation of an ISO CD for booting, as memtest86 is a standalone code requiring no OS to run. Run at least several passes of memtest86 error free, before concluding your changes to the memory timings are good ones. The second step, is to run Prime95 from mersenne.org. Use the "torture test". This runs from your favorite Windows OS. This will cause different access patterns than memtest86, and will be testing the processor in a more "heated" condition. The third step, is to try something 3D graphics intensive. I like 3DMark2001 running in demo mode, because I can leave it running over night. If the computer hasn't rebooted by the next morning, it is probably stable enough to use, and the testing can stop. There are many other adjustments that can be made, that might make a difference. But for the moment, I think your Corsair needs some tuning, before you go any further. HTH, Paul |
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In article , "Lothar" wrote:
Update: upon running the test on the smartgart annalizer in the ATI display settings. All tested fine but after the suggested reboot all menus are slow, they fade in very slowly. Lothar Which means SmartGART has probably disabled something. Check the tab again. And yes, it _will_ drive you crazy! If you are using the Catalyst drivers that came with your video card, on a CD in the video card box, then it is time to visit the ATI web site and get a more recent driver. That helped me a lot with my 9800. You still need to test your memory, as mentioned in my other post. Paul "Lothar" wrote in message ... I have just re-built my system with a A8V deluxe mainboard and Athlon 64 3500+ CPU and I have one weird problem that I have not seen before. The video output will suddenly die and then after a few seconds the system will just reboot. This happens when resizing a window or moving an app. This has only happens once or twice a day and other than that the system is stable. I do believe that it is video related as one time my monitor displayed a frequency out of range warning when it happened. I did a clean OS install and have loaded all the latest hardware drivers and A8V bios. I am not over clocking in any way. Below are my system specs, any help would be appreciated. I need to get the system stable before Doom 3. (Just kidding, well sort of) Asus A8V main board Athlon 64 3500+ 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR-3200 LL ATI Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 ZS Windows XP Pro Thanks, Lothar |
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(Paul) wrote: In article , "Lothar" wrote: Update: upon running the test on the smartgart annalizer in the ATI display settings. All tested fine but after the suggested reboot all menus are slow, they fade in very slowly. Lothar Which means SmartGART has probably disabled something. Check the tab again. And yes, it _will_ drive you crazy! If you are using the Catalyst drivers that came with your video card, on a CD in the video card box, then it is time to visit the ATI web site and get a more recent driver. That helped me a lot with my 9800. You still need to test your memory, as mentioned in my other post. Paul OK. I just had a look at the download page. http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...nguag e=en-us Clicking the "More" button next to the A8V1006.zip BIOS, it says: "1. Change BIOS setup item style 2. Change AGP aperture size rule 3. Increase some AGP cards stability." ----- It could be that flashing to the release A8V1006.zip BIOS will help your video card. There is also a beta BIOS 1006.004, but the release notes never say what is fixed in the beta, so it is up to you as to whether you would rather try that one. Get a copy of AFUDOS207.zip from the download site as well. That is the flasher program. The motherboard should be put in as stable a state as you can arrange, before trying to flash the BIOS. That might mean using a stick of slow cheap ram plus a PCI video card. If you think the computer will stay operational for a couple of hours, then maybe the few minutes it takes to flash won't be running an unacceptable amount of risk. There have been quite a few posts lately involving bad flashes, so be careful! Paul "Lothar" wrote in message ... I have just re-built my system with a A8V deluxe mainboard and Athlon 64 3500+ CPU and I have one weird problem that I have not seen before. The video output will suddenly die and then after a few seconds the system will just reboot. This happens when resizing a window or moving an app. This has only happens once or twice a day and other than that the system is stable. I do believe that it is video related as one time my monitor displayed a frequency out of range warning when it happened. I did a clean OS install and have loaded all the latest hardware drivers and A8V bios. I am not over clocking in any way. Below are my system specs, any help would be appreciated. I need to get the system stable before Doom 3. (Just kidding, well sort of) Asus A8V main board Athlon 64 3500+ 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR-3200 LL ATI Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 ZS Windows XP Pro Thanks, Lothar |
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Paul, thank you for your help. I am running the lasest A8V BIOS and ATI 4.7
catayst drivers. I think that you are right, that it is a memory timming isssue. I will run memtest this evening to confirm. Lotharmk "Paul" wrote in message ... In article , (Paul) wrote: In article , "Lothar" wrote: Update: upon running the test on the smartgart annalizer in the ATI display settings. All tested fine but after the suggested reboot all menus are slow, they fade in very slowly. Lothar Which means SmartGART has probably disabled something. Check the tab again. And yes, it _will_ drive you crazy! If you are using the Catalyst drivers that came with your video card, on a CD in the video card box, then it is time to visit the ATI web site and get a more recent driver. That helped me a lot with my 9800. You still need to test your memory, as mentioned in my other post. Paul OK. I just had a look at the download page. http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...nguag e=en-us Clicking the "More" button next to the A8V1006.zip BIOS, it says: "1. Change BIOS setup item style 2. Change AGP aperture size rule 3. Increase some AGP cards stability." ----- It could be that flashing to the release A8V1006.zip BIOS will help your video card. There is also a beta BIOS 1006.004, but the release notes never say what is fixed in the beta, so it is up to you as to whether you would rather try that one. Get a copy of AFUDOS207.zip from the download site as well. That is the flasher program. The motherboard should be put in as stable a state as you can arrange, before trying to flash the BIOS. That might mean using a stick of slow cheap ram plus a PCI video card. If you think the computer will stay operational for a couple of hours, then maybe the few minutes it takes to flash won't be running an unacceptable amount of risk. There have been quite a few posts lately involving bad flashes, so be careful! Paul "Lothar" wrote in message ... I have just re-built my system with a A8V deluxe mainboard and Athlon 64 3500+ CPU and I have one weird problem that I have not seen before. The video output will suddenly die and then after a few seconds the system will just reboot. This happens when resizing a window or moving an app. This has only happens once or twice a day and other than that the system is stable. I do believe that it is video related as one time my monitor displayed a frequency out of range warning when it happened. I did a clean OS install and have loaded all the latest hardware drivers and A8V bios. I am not over clocking in any way. Below are my system specs, any help would be appreciated. I need to get the system stable before Doom 3. (Just kidding, well sort of) Asus A8V main board Athlon 64 3500+ 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR-3200 LL ATI Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 ZS Windows XP Pro Thanks, Lothar |
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Lothar wrote:
Update: upon running the test on the smartgart annalizer in the ATI display settings. All tested fine but after the suggested reboot all menus are slow, they fade in very slowly. I've always found turning off VPU recover sorts that one right out. A lucky clean install of the ATI drivers can help too. You'll need CAT-Uninstaller for that. Ben -- A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups. I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String... |
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Help new A8V system with sudden restart problem.
I have just re-built my system with a A8V deluxe mainboard and Athlon 64
3500+ CPU and I have one weird problem that I have not seen before. The video output will suddenly die and then after a few seconds the system will just reboot. This happens when resizing a window or moving an app. This has only happens once or twice a day and other than that the system is stable. I do believe that it is video related as one time my monitor displayed a frequency out of range warning when it happened. I did a clean OS install and have loaded all the latest hardware drivers and A8V bios. I am not over clocking in any way. Below are my system specs, any help would be appreciated. I need to get the system stable before Doom 3. (Just kidding, well sort of) Asus A8V main board Athlon 64 3500+ 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR-3200 LL ATI Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 ZS Windows XP Pro Thanks, Lothar |
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Update: upon running the test on the smartgart annalizer in the ATI display
settings. All tested fine but after the suggested reboot all menus are slow, they fade in very slowly. Lothar "Lothar" wrote in message ... I have just re-built my system with a A8V deluxe mainboard and Athlon 64 3500+ CPU and I have one weird problem that I have not seen before. The video output will suddenly die and then after a few seconds the system will just reboot. This happens when resizing a window or moving an app. This has only happens once or twice a day and other than that the system is stable. I do believe that it is video related as one time my monitor displayed a frequency out of range warning when it happened. I did a clean OS install and have loaded all the latest hardware drivers and A8V bios. I am not over clocking in any way. Below are my system specs, any help would be appreciated. I need to get the system stable before Doom 3. (Just kidding, well sort of) Asus A8V main board Athlon 64 3500+ 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR-3200 LL ATI Radeon 9800 Pro SB Audigy 2 ZS Windows XP Pro Thanks, Lothar |
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