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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
Why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-...dp/B01BYLY4DM/ Do I need to buy an WD 8 TB external drive for $225 and remove the bare drive from it ? https://www.amazon.com/Book-Desktop-...dp/B01LQQHLGC/ Please note that I am not interested in Seagate or any other manufacturer. I am going with WD for the moment. Thanks, Lynn |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
Lynn McGuire wrote:
Why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ? https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-...dp/B01BYLY4DM/ Do I need to buy an WD 8 TB external drive for $225 and remove the bare drive from it ? https://www.amazon.com/Book-Desktop-...dp/B01LQQHLGC/ Please note that I am not interested in Seagate or any other manufacturer. I am going with WD for the moment. Because of the slashed $299 price (marked down to $225) for the USB cased unit, looks like that is a sale price. So the non-sale price of the USB case drive is about the same as the non-sale price for the single drive to which you linked. https://www.wdc.com/products/external-storage.html Click on the "My Book (New)" image. No matter on what size you select, all prices are listed as "promo". WDC is doing a promotional sale on that product family. Now you'll have to find or wait for a sale on red WDC HDDs, or wait until the 8TB My Book is no longer on sale to see what is its actual non-sale price, so you are not comparing apples to oranges regarding pricing. |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:31:06 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote: Why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ? https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-...dp/B01BYLY4DM/ Do I need to buy an WD 8 TB external drive for $225 and remove the bare drive from it ? https://www.amazon.com/Book-Desktop-...dp/B01LQQHLGC/ Please note that I am not interested in Seagate or any other manufacturer. I am going with WD for the moment. Because of the slashed $299 price (marked down to $225) for the USB cased unit, looks like that is a sale price. So the non-sale price of the USB case drive is about the same as the non-sale price for the single drive to which you linked. https://www.wdc.com/products/external-storage.html Click on the "My Book (New)" image. No matter on what size you select, all prices are listed as "promo". WDC is doing a promotional sale on that product family. Now you'll have to find or wait for a sale on red WDC HDDs, or wait until the 8TB My Book is no longer on sale to see what is its actual non-sale price, so you are not comparing apples to oranges regarding pricing. And since both of the links above are Amazon links, we can get some additional information by plugging them into the Amazon price tracker website, www.camelcamelcamel.com. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Red-8TB-H...uct/B01BYLY4DM http://camelcamelcamel.com/Book-Desk...uct/B01LQQHLGC Not all secrets are revealed, but we get to see 3 months to nearly a year of price history to help with the analysis and decision making. I'm referring, of course, to the Price History charts on those two respective pages. |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
Mark Perkins wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:31:06 -0600, VanguardLH wrote: Lynn McGuire wrote: Why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ? https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-...dp/B01BYLY4DM/ Do I need to buy an WD 8 TB external drive for $225 and remove the bare drive from it ? https://www.amazon.com/Book-Desktop-...dp/B01LQQHLGC/ Please note that I am not interested in Seagate or any other manufacturer. I am going with WD for the moment. Because of the slashed $299 price (marked down to $225) for the USB cased unit, looks like that is a sale price. So the non-sale price of the USB case drive is about the same as the non-sale price for the single drive to which you linked. https://www.wdc.com/products/external-storage.html Click on the "My Book (New)" image. No matter on what size you select, all prices are listed as "promo". WDC is doing a promotional sale on that product family. Now you'll have to find or wait for a sale on red WDC HDDs, or wait until the 8TB My Book is no longer on sale to see what is its actual non-sale price, so you are not comparing apples to oranges regarding pricing. And since both of the links above are Amazon links, we can get some additional information by plugging them into the Amazon price tracker website, www.camelcamelcamel.com. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Red-8TB-H...uct/B01BYLY4DM http://camelcamelcamel.com/Book-Desk...uct/B01LQQHLGC Not all secrets are revealed, but we get to see 3 months to nearly a year of price history to help with the analysis and decision making. I'm referring, of course, to the Price History charts on those two respective pages. camelcamelcamel.com What do you call a 3-humped camel? Pregnant. ;- Since the site shows the My Book unit (WDC USB drive) is consistently lower priced (within that small sampling), is a WDC red drive really used inside of it? The model number for the unit doesn't give the model number for the drive(s) inside of the unit. The unit is only spec'ed according to its capacity, not the drives inside. At 6.73"x1.93"x5.47", maybe inside there are two 2.5" drives or even four 1.8" drives. |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
On 1/12/2017 5:39 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Mark Perkins wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 14:31:06 -0600, VanguardLH wrote: Lynn McGuire wrote: Why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ? https://www.amazon.com/Red-8TB-Hard-...dp/B01BYLY4DM/ Do I need to buy an WD 8 TB external drive for $225 and remove the bare drive from it ? https://www.amazon.com/Book-Desktop-...dp/B01LQQHLGC/ Please note that I am not interested in Seagate or any other manufacturer. I am going with WD for the moment. Because of the slashed $299 price (marked down to $225) for the USB cased unit, looks like that is a sale price. So the non-sale price of the USB case drive is about the same as the non-sale price for the single drive to which you linked. https://www.wdc.com/products/external-storage.html Click on the "My Book (New)" image. No matter on what size you select, all prices are listed as "promo". WDC is doing a promotional sale on that product family. Now you'll have to find or wait for a sale on red WDC HDDs, or wait until the 8TB My Book is no longer on sale to see what is its actual non-sale price, so you are not comparing apples to oranges regarding pricing. And since both of the links above are Amazon links, we can get some additional information by plugging them into the Amazon price tracker website, www.camelcamelcamel.com. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Red-8TB-H...uct/B01BYLY4DM http://camelcamelcamel.com/Book-Desk...uct/B01LQQHLGC Not all secrets are revealed, but we get to see 3 months to nearly a year of price history to help with the analysis and decision making. I'm referring, of course, to the Price History charts on those two respective pages. camelcamelcamel.com What do you call a 3-humped camel? Pregnant. ;- Since the site shows the My Book unit (WDC USB drive) is consistently lower priced (within that small sampling), is a WDC red drive really used inside of it? The model number for the unit doesn't give the model number for the drive(s) inside of the unit. The unit is only spec'ed according to its capacity, not the drives inside. At 6.73"x1.93"x5.47", maybe inside there are two 2.5" drives or even four 1.8" drives. Nope, just a single 3.5 inch drive. I am sitting here looking at one. I can see the drive plainly through the top air slots and there is only one drive. But I cannot make out the drive markings without removing it from the case. And it is the new WD case. Lynn |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
On 1/12/2017 6:46 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Nope, just a single 3.5 inch drive. I am sitting here looking at one. I can see the drive plainly through the top air slots and there is only one drive. But I cannot make out the drive markings without removing it from the case. And it is the new WD case. Lynn Is it a case that clearly can be taken apart? A long time ago I took apart a WD 1T USB 2.0 and it was an audio-visual green drive, WD10EAVS, with the slow rpm. FYI the little pocket WD's, at least some of them, have drives in them whose only connection is a built in USB port. That's how they can be so small - no drive to case interface. -- Ed Light Better World News TV Channel: http://realnews.com Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
Lynn McGuire wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Since the site shows the My Book unit (WDC USB drive) is consistently lower priced (within that small sampling), is a WDC red drive really used inside of it? The model number for the unit doesn't give the model number for the drive(s) inside of the unit. The unit is only spec'ed according to its capacity, not the drives inside. At 6.73"x1.93"x5.47", maybe inside there are two 2.5" drives or even four 1.8" drives. Nope, just a single 3.5 inch drive. I am sitting here looking at one. I can see the drive plainly through the top air slots and there is only one drive. But I cannot make out the drive markings without removing it from the case. And it is the new WD case. Darn. Would've been nice to know what they actually used inside for the HDD. Couldn't find anything about the HDD itself at the WDC site or in online reviews. It's probably a snap-together case so trying to open it means probably breaking a seal along with some tangs holding the two halves together. Is the side you can see through the case slots colored red, blue, black, or purple? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFKbrppVBD4 This guy dismantles the case to look at the drive inside. https://www.servethehome.com/wd-book...zx-benchmarks/ That review dismantles the case, too, to look inside. That has the smooth case wherease the link you pointed at has the textured case. Don't know if it makes a difference other than the feature fluff they add with different models. The HDD inside is not marked like a red-, green-, blue, or purple-labelled HDD from WDC. The WD80EZZX (the model number shown on the internal HDD) in the My Book is a 5400 RPM unit. I thought Reds, being used for NAS storage and targeting business users would be 7200 RPM drives. Nope, they are just 5400 RPM - *unless* you get the Pro model of reds. From those reviews, and because of the low noise, it looks to be a 5400 RPM HDD - but then so is your first link to the bare red HDD. This isn't surprising since many pre-built external USB drives are 5400 RPM to reduce heat and noise but also the gyroscopic force should the user go mauling the unit while it is running. The white label 8 TB HDD inside the USB case is made by HGST. It is not stamped as a WDC drive. HGST is a wholly owned subsidiary of WDC. The red drives from WDC are marked as coming from Malaysia whereas the unknown HDD inside the USB case is marked as coming from Thailand. So from neighboring countries but clearly indicates different manufacture plants. I've owned both WDC HDDs and HGST HDDs with the latter used in my laptops. Seems they are equivalent regarding quality and durability. When I go to newegg.com, the 8TB HGST HDDs are generally more expensive than the 8TB WDC reds. That's because the HGSTs are 7200 RPM versus 5400 RPM for the WDC reds. https://www.hgst.com/products/hard-d...ktop-drive-kit I only saw 7200 RPM units mentioned there. Maybe HGST has forayed into 5400 RPM units at 8TB as a special production by WDC. Too bad the guy in the 2nd article didn't compare the benchmarks for the mystery WD80EZZX inside the USB case against a WDC red-marked HDD. However, he would've had to take the WD80EZZX out of the case so he could hook it up to the same controller using the same interface (no USB conversion between HDD and mobo) to do a proper benchmark. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10762/...-hdds-review/2 That lists some benchmarks for comparison. Benchmarks are rare for this unit to compare against other external and internal HDDs. So the biggest difference looks to be as to which market the units target. The USB drive is more like something consumers would want. The internal red HDDs more target business deployments. |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
If you install the trial version of HD Sentinel, if it connects with the
USB drive ok (it can't read all of them), it will tell you the rpm under Information Tab / Disk Information / Rotational Speed. In that same group, Disk Family can tell you the model. Such as Caviar Blue, what I'm looking at right now for my system drive. I don't know if the newsgroup does attachments, but I'll try attaching a screen shot. -- Ed Light Better World News TV Channel: http://realnews.com Send spam to the FTC at Thanks, robots. |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
On 1/12/2017 9:21 PM, Ed Light wrote:
On 1/12/2017 6:46 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote: Nope, just a single 3.5 inch drive. I am sitting here looking at one. I can see the drive plainly through the top air slots and there is only one drive. But I cannot make out the drive markings without removing it from the case. And it is the new WD case. Lynn Is it a case that clearly can be taken apart? A long time ago I took apart a WD 1T USB 2.0 and it was an audio-visual green drive, WD10EAVS, with the slow rpm. FYI the little pocket WD's, at least some of them, have drives in them whose only connection is a built in USB port. That's how they can be so small - no drive to case interface. Not really. Lynn |
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why is the cheapest WD 8 TB bare drive on Big River $303 ?
On 1/12/2017 10:12 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Since the site shows the My Book unit (WDC USB drive) is consistently lower priced (within that small sampling), is a WDC red drive really used inside of it? The model number for the unit doesn't give the model number for the drive(s) inside of the unit. The unit is only spec'ed according to its capacity, not the drives inside. At 6.73"x1.93"x5.47", maybe inside there are two 2.5" drives or even four 1.8" drives. Nope, just a single 3.5 inch drive. I am sitting here looking at one. I can see the drive plainly through the top air slots and there is only one drive. But I cannot make out the drive markings without removing it from the case. And it is the new WD case. Darn. Would've been nice to know what they actually used inside for the HDD. Couldn't find anything about the HDD itself at the WDC site or in online reviews. It's probably a snap-together case so trying to open it means probably breaking a seal along with some tangs holding the two halves together. Is the side you can see through the case slots colored red, blue, black, or purple? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFKbrppVBD4 This guy dismantles the case to look at the drive inside. https://www.servethehome.com/wd-book...zx-benchmarks/ That review dismantles the case, too, to look inside. That has the smooth case wherease the link you pointed at has the textured case. Don't know if it makes a difference other than the feature fluff they add with different models. The HDD inside is not marked like a red-, green-, blue, or purple-labelled HDD from WDC. The WD80EZZX (the model number shown on the internal HDD) in the My Book is a 5400 RPM unit. I thought Reds, being used for NAS storage and targeting business users would be 7200 RPM drives. Nope, they are just 5400 RPM - *unless* you get the Pro model of reds. From those reviews, and because of the low noise, it looks to be a 5400 RPM HDD - but then so is your first link to the bare red HDD. This isn't surprising since many pre-built external USB drives are 5400 RPM to reduce heat and noise but also the gyroscopic force should the user go mauling the unit while it is running. The white label 8 TB HDD inside the USB case is made by HGST. It is not stamped as a WDC drive. HGST is a wholly owned subsidiary of WDC. The red drives from WDC are marked as coming from Malaysia whereas the unknown HDD inside the USB case is marked as coming from Thailand. So from neighboring countries but clearly indicates different manufacture plants. I've owned both WDC HDDs and HGST HDDs with the latter used in my laptops. Seems they are equivalent regarding quality and durability. When I go to newegg.com, the 8TB HGST HDDs are generally more expensive than the 8TB WDC reds. That's because the HGSTs are 7200 RPM versus 5400 RPM for the WDC reds. https://www.hgst.com/products/hard-d...ktop-drive-kit I only saw 7200 RPM units mentioned there. Maybe HGST has forayed into 5400 RPM units at 8TB as a special production by WDC. Too bad the guy in the 2nd article didn't compare the benchmarks for the mystery WD80EZZX inside the USB case against a WDC red-marked HDD. However, he would've had to take the WD80EZZX out of the case so he could hook it up to the same controller using the same interface (no USB conversion between HDD and mobo) to do a proper benchmark. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10762/...-hdds-review/2 That lists some benchmarks for comparison. Benchmarks are rare for this unit to compare against other external and internal HDDs. So the biggest difference looks to be as to which market the units target. The USB drive is more like something consumers would want. The internal red HDDs more target business deployments. The drive inside appears to be white. No color. It is not extremely fast. I am writing a LAN backup to it right now. About a dozen PCs of around 3.5 TB. Not fast is ok, I just write to it once every seven weeks (rotating external drives written on each Friday night). The three internal backup drives get written each night. Lynn |
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