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Opinions about upgrade paths, please
I've always been an incremental up-grader, but since my last upgrade there
has been such an explosion of new hardware that I need advise on what to upgrade. Here is a brief list of what is in my system: Iwill A500 mid tower case Shuttle AK32-A systemboard (KT266A) AMD XP 1700+ Thoroughbred - slightly overclocked at 1608 MHz (12x134) 2X512 MB PC2700 DDR Western Digital WD1600 - 160 GB 7200 RPM ATA100 Maxtor 6L080J4 - 80 GB 7200 RPM ATA133 (running at ATA100) Plextor PX-712A - 12X DVD+-RW Generic 16X DVD-ROM ATI All-In-Wonder Pro 8 MB video with TV in/out Creative Sound Blaster Live Value The major deficiencies as I see them a 1) Video is *way* out of date. 2) Processor is too slow for video processing. 3) Motherboard lacks USB 2.0 and Firewire The last item is why I am looking at an upgrade. I have tried to use the ATI for video recording, and it barely works on Windows 98 (2% dropped frames), is useless on Windows XP (50% dropped frames), and I haven't been able to get it to work on Linux. I've decided to get a Canopus ADVC-50, which uses Firewire 400. For just a few dollars more than the $40 that a Firewire card costs, I could buy one of the following (pricing from Newegg.com): EPoX EP-8RDA+PRO $68 ABIT NF7-S V2 $78 EPoX EP-8RDA6+PRO $86 ABIT AN7 $87 They would give me Firewire 400 (1394a), USB 2.0, and the ability to run my memory at 333, rather than 266. This brings me to my next decision: Do I also buy a new processor? If I was to do so, I'd pick one of these: Athlon XP 2600+ Barton 1.9 GHz $79 Athlon XP 2800+ Barton 2.083 GHz $100 Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 2.167 GHz $111 But then, this leads me to another decision: Do I stay with 32 bit, or do I go to 64 bit? I can get an Athlon 64 3000+ 1.8 GHz for $146 and there are a large number of motherboards in the $100 range. So, where to go? 1) New motherboard $80 2) New motherboard and Athlon XP $180 3) New motherboard and Athlon 64 $240 What I didn't do is look at new video cards versus using an on-motherboard video solution. Even the latter would be faster than what I currently have. -- Jerry Natowitz j dot natowitz at rcn dot com Linux Eye for the Microsoft Guy |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:50:19 -0400, Jerry Natowitz
j-dot-natowitz-at-rcn-dot-com wrote: But then, this leads me to another decision: Do I stay with 32 bit, or do I go to 64 bit? I can get an Athlon 64 3000+ 1.8 GHz for $146 and there are a large number of motherboards in the $100 range. So, where to go? I decided on the Athlon 64 3000+ (socket 939) for a recent build and am happy I did so. It's a speedy, stable CPU even though most of the apps I'm running are 32-bit. It performs better than my other machine, a year old Intel 2.8 GHz P4 P4P800 mobo because of its integrated, improved memory management. Another advantage of the 64-bit chips is future compatibility. I'm running Windows XP Pro x64 now that it's released and rumor has it that Longhorn will be biased towards 64-bit when it is released next year. Note that if you decide to run xp Pro x64 right now, driver availabilty is still spotty, so it may be best to stick with 32-bit XP for a while, but still get the improvements of the Athlon 64 CPU. 1) New motherboard $80 2) New motherboard and Athlon XP $180 3) New motherboard and Athlon 64 $240 And, it's only $60 bucks more for a CPU/mobo combo that shouldn't be obsolete by next year. |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:28:14 -0700, Jed
wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:50:19 -0400, Jerry Natowitz j-dot-natowitz-at-rcn-dot-com wrote: But then, this leads me to another decision: Do I stay with 32 bit, or do I go to 64 bit? I can get an Athlon 64 3000+ 1.8 GHz for $146 and there are a large number of motherboards in the $100 range. So, where to go? I decided on the Athlon 64 3000+ (socket 939) for a recent build and am happy I did so. I forgot to mention that the 3000+ is the Venice core, which, if you can find it in stock, is better than the Winchester or Newcastle core Athlon 64s but costs about the same. Google on "venioce core" for more info. |
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"Jerry Natowitz" j-dot-natowitz-at-rcn-dot-com wrote...
So, where to go? 1) New motherboard $80 2) New motherboard and Athlon XP $180 3) New motherboard and Athlon 64 $240 What I didn't do is look at new video cards versus using an on-motherboard video solution. Even the latter would be faster than what I currently have. Go wherever you can afford. A newer A64 Socket 939 MoBo (90 nm, 1.3/1.35V compatible) will give you an upgrade option to the dual-core CPUs when the price comes down. Less than that, and you'll be stuck with another MoBo for your next significant upgrade. Rather than an on-board GFX solution, go with a low-end AGP-8X or PCI-E card for $50 or so until you can afford the GFX card you want. |
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Jed wrote:
j-dot-natowitz-at-rcn-dot-com wrote: 1) New motherboard $80 2) New motherboard and Athlon XP $180 3) New motherboard and Athlon 64 $240 And, it's only $60 bucks more for a CPU/mobo combo that shouldn't be obsolete by next year. I think a new mainboard becomes obsolete fast as a mainboard type that has been around for awhile, and mainboards remain usable no longer than CPUs. Athlon XPs are overpriced apparently due to short supply. An equivalent Sempron is cheaper and the suited mainboard, Socket 754, will allow upgrade to an Athlon 64, unless the mainboard becomes obsolete. |
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