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What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's
Why isnt anyone here recommending them |
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:33:01 +0000, Legend wrote:
What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's Why isnt anyone here recommending them Because they are overpriced IMO. Got plenty of money you don't care about, go for it. They are not multiplier locked and have default clockspeed usually 200MHz above the fastest A64. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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Nothing is wrong with them in fact they are very nice. They are just
insanely priced as are all cutting edge CPUs. You can get within 10-15% of their performance for half the money and within 25% for a quarter of the money. They are great CPUs but unless you are Bill Gates and money just means nothing to you they are just not worth what they cost. Joe "Legend" wrote in message ... What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's Why isnt anyone here recommending them |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:17:14 +0000, Wes Newell wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:33:01 +0000, Legend wrote: What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's Why isnt anyone here recommending them Because they are overpriced IMO. Got plenty of money you don't care about, go for it. They are not multiplier locked and have default clockspeed usually 200MHz above the fastest A64. Wes is exactly right, the FX series has lousy price/performance. For example the FX60 (2.6GHz) is $1018, the X2 4800+ (2.4GHz) is $680 and the X2 4400+ (2.2GHz) is $461. All three parts are identical except for the clock speed (dual core, 1M caches). The FX60 is 18% faster then the 4400+ but it's price is 2.2X the price of the 4400+. For the difference in price between a FX60 and a 4400+ you could but a second 4400+, a motherboard, and a graphics card. |
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Wes Newell wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:33:01 +0000, Legend wrote: What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's Why isnt anyone here recommending them Because they are overpriced IMO. Got plenty of money you don't care about, go for it. They are not multiplier locked and have default clockspeed usually 200MHz above the fastest A64. are they 64bit dual core? Sorry for all the doubt and negativity lately WES, but I have like 2days to take the plunge into getting a new computer (currently own a P4 3ghz 1meg cache) with is so rock solid I am scared to make a move (last time I took a jump to AMD was the athlon 1200 , and blew $16k Australian on them (double that for $US) only to find that it was fast but I couldnt upload or download any file bigger that 20k, be it floppy, usb, CD or internet,, I couldnt burn CD's but I COuld use the ISA port.. ( I bought AMD because I had 6 USrobotic internal Courier m0dems that cost me a thousand australian dollars each and still wanted to use them yrt still have the fastest machine going at the time I had fast machimes that could do nothing... but that was back in 2000 I think .. I understood that it was the VIA chipsets fault... Then I saw were VIA wanted to buy out AMD... Woooo not for me.. nothing wrong with AMD... It would have suited me better if AMD bought out VIA and cleaned up the VIA chipsets.. anyway I remeber your name from teh old USRobotic Courier modem days and respect your opinion ,,, so lay it on me Bro What is the fastest, most cost effective way to go in 64bit... AMD or INtel .. my main use is rendering movies to DVD's for people these days |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:30:20 +0000, Legend wrote:
Wes Newell wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:33:01 +0000, Legend wrote: What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's Why isnt anyone here recommending them Because they are overpriced IMO. Got plenty of money you don't care about, go for it. They are not multiplier locked and have default clockspeed usually 200MHz above the fastest A64. are they 64bit dual core? Sorry for all the doubt and negativity lately WES, but I have like 2days to take the plunge into getting a new computer (currently own a P4 3ghz 1meg cache) with is so rock solid I am scared to make a move (last time I took a jump to AMD was the athlon 1200 , and blew $16k Australian on them (double that for $US) only to find that it was fast but I couldnt upload or download any file bigger that 20k, be it floppy, usb, CD or internet,, I couldnt burn CD's but I COuld use the ISA port.. ( I bought AMD because I had 6 USrobotic internal Courier m0dems that cost me a thousand australian dollars each and still wanted to use them yrt still have the fastest machine going at the time I had fast machimes that could do nothing... but that was back in 2000 I think .. I understood that it was the VIA chipsets fault... Then I saw were VIA wanted to buy out AMD... Woooo not for me.. nothing wrong with AMD... It would have suited me better if AMD bought out VIA and cleaned up the VIA chipsets.. anyway I remeber your name from teh old USRobotic Courier modem days and respect your opinion ,,, so lay it on me Bro What is the fastest, most cost effective way to go in 64bit... AMD or INtel .. my main use is rendering movies to DVD's for people these days The best choice is an Athlon 64 X2 with an Nforce4 motherboard. The A64s run rings around the current Intel offerings and they do it at a fraction of the power. My recommendation is the X2 4400+, thats the sweet spot in pricing for a dual core 1M cache part. I have three Athlon 64 systems, a 3400+ laptop, a 3800+ desktop (the single core 3800+ as opposed to the dual core X2 3800+), and an X2 4400+ which I use as a compute server. All of these systems have been solid as a rock. I'll give you my configuration for the X2 4400+ system: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum mother board 4G DDR 400 Enermax EG565P-FMA REV.2.0 ATX, 535W supply Thermaltake A1838 heatsink Thermaltake VB1000BWS Soprano ATX case (This is the one with the side fan) Seagate 250G SATA-II drive I've had this system since July, it's been running 24/7 with Fedora Core 4 since then. The only reboots have been for operating system or kernel upgrades. I'm currently running a simulation on one core and an FPGA place and route on the other, the CPU temperature is 40C. With just the simulation running the CPU temp was 35C, an Intel CPU would be much much hotter. Any major brand Nforce 4 Ultra motherboard is fine, I'm using the MSI but an ASUS or a Tyan should be just as good. |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:30:20 +0000, Legend wrote:
Wes Newell wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:33:01 +0000, Legend wrote: What is wrong with the FX series of AMD CPU's Why isnt anyone here recommending them Because they are overpriced IMO. Got plenty of money you don't care about, go for it. They are not multiplier locked and have default clockspeed usually 200MHz above the fastest A64. are they 64bit dual core? I think the new FX60 is, but I'm pretty sure all the ealier ones are single core. To be honest though I don't follow them much. What is the fastest, most cost effective way to go in 64bit... AMD or INtel .. my main use is rendering movies to DVD's for people these days That's a hard one to answer, but it will definately be an AMD cpu. The Intels eat up power like it's going out of style. I guess if you don't need a lot of power A socket 754 Sempron with the right MB can be clocked up close to A64 4000+ speeds (like that's not a lot of power:-)). Just make sure you get a newer 64 bit enabled one if you want 64 bit.. If you do lot of multitasking or high load things then I'd buy the X2 3800+ and overclock it to close to 4800+ speed. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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What is the fastest, most cost effective way to go in 64bit... AMD or
INtel .. my main use is rendering movies to DVD's for people these days One last thing...The motherboard chipset I see VIA, Nvidia, ATi,ULi chipsets on boards made by ABIT and have heard some people hear swear by NVidia chipsets yet others have all sorts of trouble with them.. I never want VIA again and if Nvidia has trouble if I use an ATI video card then that leaves ATI and ULi My video card of choice is the ATI SAPPHIRE X1300 256meg PCIx MODEL Single slot passive (silent) cooling solution Your experiences welcome here please |
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The X1300 are very slow card and is not recommended.Your better off getting
an X1600 or nvidias 6800s -- XP2600@171 PC3200 Samsung 512mb, SB Live OEM AIW9600XT, A7N8X-X WD120gb + 80gb HD 8mb buffers Plextor PX-712A, Liteon 1693S 16X Dual Layer Pioneer DVR-110D 16X - 4X Dual Layer Thermaltake Lanfire, 420 Watt PS ViewSonic 19" A91f+ CRT Micrsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Joystick Overall Score-2066, cpu_score-2926 in 3DMark2005 basic 1078X768, No AA "Legend" wrote in message ... What is the fastest, most cost effective way to go in 64bit... AMD or INtel .. my main use is rendering movies to DVD's for people these days One last thing...The motherboard chipset I see VIA, Nvidia, ATi,ULi chipsets on boards made by ABIT and have heard some people hear swear by NVidia chipsets yet others have all sorts of trouble with them.. I never want VIA again and if Nvidia has trouble if I use an ATI video card then that leaves ATI and ULi My video card of choice is the ATI SAPPHIRE X1300 256meg PCIx MODEL Single slot passive (silent) cooling solution Your experiences welcome here please |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote in
news Enermax EG565P-FMA REV.2.0 ATX, 535W supply General, how quiet is this PS? Thanks. |
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