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Paul Hutchings wrote:
I need to get some more CD/DVD media and don't really want to be paying £8 postage on £20 worth of media. Any suggestions/recommendations for cheap postage or anywhere doing free postage (i can hope!) at the moment? cheers, Paul I also use SVP and have used the Verbatim DVD +R for data backups and the Verbatim +RW (£6 for 10) for TV recording. Always wondered if I am paying too much; for the data backups quality and long life is key. What do you guys say? -- SPAM (delete NOSPAM) www.redoak.co.uk www.eze-buy.co.uk |
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"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message news In article , Paul Heslop wrote: Try this place Paul http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/ can't recall how much I paid but they were fast and cheap. Thanks, SVP seem to have gone downhill a little in terms of their range - they seem to be concentrating on "cheap n cheerful" rather than offering much in the way of reputable media. Thats what is on the market at the moment, nothing to do with SVP, the market place for some reason has been flooded with CMC dye based disks, its the same over at ukdvdr and bigpockets. Guess that might sound a bit snobby but Fuji/Maxell and the likes seem They have never sold actual fuji or maxell brands in large quantities, and BTW some dyes that maxell have used in the past are crap. to have a good reputation for quality, not sure I'd fancy my chances of pulling data off a "datawrite" in several years time? Nothing to do with te logo printed on the disk, its all to do with the actual dye used, datawrite 8x grey fuji disks are good quality, as are datawrites ritek g05 range. What do people think the "best" -R media is these days for longevity? Thats impossible to answer unless anyone can pick a brand what is out today and see into the future. With dvdr disks the general opinion seems to be the darker the dye the better the longevity, so buy some datawrite grey topped fuji dye based dvds from ukdvdr or stick to ritek g05 disks, do however avoid any over print disks, some are terrible quality and some are even B-Grade disks. |
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"Paul Hutchings" wrote in message news In article , (Paul Womar) wrote: The name on the disk doesn't have much to do with it really. They have datawrites that use Fujifilm dyes as well as the highly regarded Ritek G04 dye. Someone else has mentioned the T.Y. stuff too, I'm not sure about DVDs but certainly for CD-R they were just about the most highly respected brand. The T.Ys do seem much more expensive for DVD media, whilst there was little in it for their CDR media, plus of course I've only seen them in hundreds. Genuine Taiyo Yudens have some of the manufacture process done in Europe today, hence the higher price. Have to admit all these ADVDINFO codes do confuse me, does it mean that if you buy datawrites with a fuji ADVDINFO code that you're basically getting fuji manufactured media? It means the disk is put together by datawrite and the dye is produced by fuji, basically you are getting fuji disks for cheaper money The same can be said of verbatim dvds that use a MCC (mitshibusi chemical corp) dye, if you look you can get MCC disks that are NOT verbatim branded for cheaper money, and to all intended purposes you are getting the same as a proper verbatim disk. Do NOT confuse the MCC dye with the CMC dye though, they are 2 different companies but some firms are trying to say that CMC disks are what the likes of verbatim and TDK use, which is complete BS. CMC are not as good as fuji, ritek or MCC dye based disks. The quality of dvd media has improved a whole lot, its rare to get a failure from anything but a overprint disk nowadays, basically any datawrite product you buy should be ok, especially if you go for 8x media but only burn at 4x speed, for certainty though stick to FUJI and RITEK G05 dye based disks, for a good price-to-performance ratio ) |
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Paul Hutchings wrote:
Thanks, SVP seem to have gone downhill a little in terms of their range - they seem to be concentrating on "cheap n cheerful" rather than offering much in the way of reputable media. Guess that might sound a bit snobby but Fuji/Maxell and the likes seem to have a good reputation for quality, not sure I'd fancy my chances of pulling data off a "datawrite" in several years time? I think it is more a case of Fuji/Maxell going down in quality now. They're rebranding all kinds of cheap discs now and a recent batch of Fujis that I bought certainly aren't up to the quality of Taiyo Yuden. At best the error rates are 3 times those of the T-Y's while at worst the discs are unusable. Cheers. James. |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message ... Paul Hutchings wrote: Thanks, SVP seem to have gone downhill a little in terms of their range - they seem to be concentrating on "cheap n cheerful" rather than offering much in the way of reputable media. Guess that might sound a bit snobby but Fuji/Maxell and the likes seem to have a good reputation for quality, not sure I'd fancy my chances of pulling data off a "datawrite" in several years time? I think it is more a case of Fuji/Maxell going down in quality now. They're rebranding all kinds of cheap discs now and a recent batch of Fujis that I bought certainly aren't up to the quality of Taiyo Yuden. At best the error rates are 3 times those of the T-Y's while at worst the discs are unusable. Christ only knows what you are doing with any modern branded media to get that type of error rate |
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Dave wrote:
"James Perrett" wrote in message ... I think it is more a case of Fuji/Maxell going down in quality now. They're rebranding all kinds of cheap discs now and a recent batch of Fujis that I bought certainly aren't up to the quality of Taiyo Yuden. At best the error rates are 3 times those of the T-Y's while at worst the discs are unusable. Christ only knows what you are doing with any modern branded media to get that type of error rate A colleague of mine tried some on a burner that produces good burns with T-Y discs and the resultant discs could not be read in his laptop (which was also happy with the T-Y discs) - that's what I would call unusable. Cheers. James. |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: "James Perrett" wrote in message ... I think it is more a case of Fuji/Maxell going down in quality now. They're rebranding all kinds of cheap discs now and a recent batch of Fujis that I bought certainly aren't up to the quality of Taiyo Yuden. At best the error rates are 3 times those of the T-Y's while at worst the discs are unusable. Christ only knows what you are doing with any modern branded media to get that type of error rate A colleague of mine tried some on a burner that produces good burns with T-Y discs and the resultant discs could not be read in his laptop (which was also happy with the T-Y discs) - that's what I would call unusable. You must be doing something wrong as NO half decent media including budget datasafe/datawrite and bulkpaq would have a problem to that extent, i have burned to various disks from the cheapest princo 4x disks from a year or so ago, 8x ritek dye based disks that you can buy cheap today, even more expensive verbatims and NO i repeated NO disks have i ever had problems to that extent with, and believe me i have tried more then a few brands. Most media nowadays will as long as it is burned no higher then its rated speed work perfectly ok in most modern drives. Indeed i have yet to see any branded 8x Agrade disk when burned at 4x or lower fail in any drive that can read dvdr disks, the only things i can think you are doing are either something wrong with regards to burning or ya mates drive in the laptop is not dvdr compatible. |
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Dave wrote:
"James Perrett" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: "James Perrett" wrote in message ... I think it is more a case of Fuji/Maxell going down in quality now. They're rebranding all kinds of cheap discs now and a recent batch of Fujis that I bought certainly aren't up to the quality of Taiyo Yuden. At best the error rates are 3 times those of the T-Y's while at worst the discs are unusable. Christ only knows what you are doing with any modern branded media to get that type of error rate A colleague of mine tried some on a burner that produces good burns with T-Y discs and the resultant discs could not be read in his laptop (which was also happy with the T-Y discs) - that's what I would call unusable. You must be doing something wrong as NO half decent media including budget datasafe/datawrite and bulkpaq would have a problem to that extent, i have burned to various disks from the cheapest princo 4x disks from a year or so ago, 8x ritek dye based disks that you can buy cheap today, even more expensive verbatims and NO i repeated NO disks have i ever had problems to that extent with, and believe me i have tried more then a few brands. Most media nowadays will as long as it is burned no higher then its rated speed work perfectly ok in most modern drives. Indeed i have yet to see any branded 8x Agrade disk when burned at 4x or lower fail in any drive that can read dvdr disks, the only things i can think you are doing are either something wrong with regards to burning or ya mates drive in the laptop is not dvdr compatible. We're talking CD's here, not DVD's and believe me, I've been burning CD's for nearly 10 years and I've seen some really dodgy blank media. The Fuji media isn't the worst I've used. Cheers. James. |
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"James Perrett" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: "James Perrett" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: "James Perrett" wrote in message ... I think it is more a case of Fuji/Maxell going down in quality now. They're rebranding all kinds of cheap discs now and a recent batch of Fujis that I bought certainly aren't up to the quality of Taiyo Yuden. At best the error rates are 3 times those of the T-Y's while at worst the discs are unusable. Christ only knows what you are doing with any modern branded media to get that type of error rate A colleague of mine tried some on a burner that produces good burns with T-Y discs and the resultant discs could not be read in his laptop (which was also happy with the T-Y discs) - that's what I would call unusable. You must be doing something wrong as NO half decent media including budget datasafe/datawrite and bulkpaq would have a problem to that extent, i have burned to various disks from the cheapest princo 4x disks from a year or so ago, 8x ritek dye based disks that you can buy cheap today, even more expensive verbatims and NO i repeated NO disks have i ever had problems to that extent with, and believe me i have tried more then a few brands. Most media nowadays will as long as it is burned no higher then its rated speed work perfectly ok in most modern drives. Indeed i have yet to see any branded 8x Agrade disk when burned at 4x or lower fail in any drive that can read dvdr disks, the only things i can think you are doing are either something wrong with regards to burning or ya mates drive in the laptop is not dvdr compatible. We're talking CD's here, not DVD's and believe me, I've been burning CD's for nearly 10 years and I've seen some really dodgy blank media. The Fuji media isn't the worst I've used. Unless you are using the cheapest crap cds available my statements about the quality of media today stand, as long as you burn within the specified media speeds you shouldnt have any problems with even half decent media. Dyes have improved considerably over the years. As for using CDRs for 10 years, im sorry, but in my book that makes you a newbie ;D Ive used them since 1990 ) (or in other words when they first appeared) and back then the quality compared even to todays cheap disks was appaling. we have came a long way in 15 years with regards to media i still have a few 1x spedd cdrs somewhere, that have probably lost anything that was written to them long ago |
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I need to get some more CD/DVD media and don't really want to be paying
£8 postage on £20 worth of media. For cdrs I just wait and add to to amazon orders. If you are over £20 shipping is free and a hundred cdr's are 9.99 so thats 10p a disc which is ok. Course if you just want 200 discs you have to find something for 3p to get the free shipping. Not really an exciting choice but an easy one. |
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