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PCI slot versions ( hey Bill ! )
Hi Gang !
Keep in mind a couple of things when trying to install a "newer" PCI slot card into an old computer. There are different versions of PCI slots. I'm not going to go into detail here, you would be better served by googling the issue on the internet. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pci+slot+version They all *look* alike, but are not the same electrically. But a USB card "may" not work in our ancient Packard Bell computers. I really don't know what version of PCI PB boards have, but it's going to be pretty old, and may not support newer cards. I have run into this in the past, with PCI cards that simply don't work in an ancient PCI board. And Bill, I suspect this is why the Ethernet card you installed in your PB would not allow the computer to boot up. I kept forgetting to mention this. So be very careful when purchasing a USB 2.0 card for your old PB. It may not work. bobwatts -- boBWatts®© EartH Watts Carburetion Service Whizzbang Computers Official collector of: transfat asian plastic junk trinkets ! |
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PCI slot versions ( hey Bill ! )
For the most part, if a USB 2.0 PCI card comes with Windows 98 drivers, the odds
are pretty good that it will work. Not 100%, but pretty good still. As for Ethernet cards, I have long used Intel-branded ones when needed. Intel provides Windows 98 (hence also Windows 95) drivers plus good Windows-based diagnostics. I still have a pile of 3COM 3c905 10/100 Ethernet cards here, too, to go with my pile of Intel cards. I am lukearm about them, though, because 3COM is not all that much of a company these days, and its focus has turned away from nuts-and-bolts Ethernet gear. There are Linksys, D-Link, Netgear and all the other cheapo Ethernet cards now sold in mass market stores. I would not give one to my worst enemy, especially if he/she was running Windows 98... Ben Myers On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:06:03 -0400, "Robert E. Watts" wrote: Hi Gang ! Keep in mind a couple of things when trying to install a "newer" PCI slot card into an old computer. There are different versions of PCI slots. I'm not going to go into detail here, you would be better served by googling the issue on the internet. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pci+slot+version They all *look* alike, but are not the same electrically. But a USB card "may" not work in our ancient Packard Bell computers. I really don't know what version of PCI PB boards have, but it's going to be pretty old, and may not support newer cards. I have run into this in the past, with PCI cards that simply don't work in an ancient PCI board. And Bill, I suspect this is why the Ethernet card you installed in your PB would not allow the computer to boot up. I kept forgetting to mention this. So be very careful when purchasing a USB 2.0 card for your old PB. It may not work. bobwatts |
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PCI slot versions ( hey Bill ! )
One further comment. Although the PCI slots all look the same (and ARE
physically identical), the version of PCI slot depends on the motherboard chipset. So to know for sure, see what the motherboard chipset is, then look up the specs for the chipset. There are 64-bit PCI slots, too, but they are found almost exclusively on servers which can also take advantage of 64-bit SCSI and network cards for greater throughput. Same with USB versions, although the dividing line between USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 is a little more clear cut. Odds are near 100% that a Pentium 3 or earlier has USB 1.1. Socket 423 P4s are USB 1.1. Socket 478 P4s are largely USB 2.0. .... Ben Myers On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:06:03 -0400, "Robert E. Watts" wrote: Hi Gang ! Keep in mind a couple of things when trying to install a "newer" PCI slot card into an old computer. There are different versions of PCI slots. I'm not going to go into detail here, you would be better served by googling the issue on the internet. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pci+slot+version They all *look* alike, but are not the same electrically. But a USB card "may" not work in our ancient Packard Bell computers. I really don't know what version of PCI PB boards have, but it's going to be pretty old, and may not support newer cards. I have run into this in the past, with PCI cards that simply don't work in an ancient PCI board. And Bill, I suspect this is why the Ethernet card you installed in your PB would not allow the computer to boot up. I kept forgetting to mention this. So be very careful when purchasing a USB 2.0 card for your old PB. It may not work. bobwatts |
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PCI slot versions ( hey Bill ! )
On My experience with PCI cards and Pacvkard Bell:
On my old Corner unit with the 68x motherboard I installed a Linksys Ethernrt PCI . When I called my ISP, BellSouth they told me to upgrade the computer. It has Windows 95, 128 meg 233 mhz. I was having issues...could get the BellSouth page but not sign on. They said that it would not work with Windows 95. Needless to say, I was getting the sign on page but was having difficulties. Well fooling with it, it eventually worked and continues to do so. It works just fine. It is no speed demon by any means but does what I need . Regarding the PCI issue I am having, It is with a Linksys wireless adapter card with the screw on antenna. To elaborate on my situation about my other PB computers and the deal about installing the wireless PCI adapter card. The one computer has windows 98 , one has Windows 95 and one has XP. I did this just to verify it was not or did not seem to be an OS problem. None would recognize it, that is when turned on would not boot. No video no clicking of the hard drive nothing. These systems have the PB bios and the Mr. BIOS bios respectively. All three locked ....nothing....at power up. I put the wireless adapter card into the gateway with XP it worked fine. Bill |
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PCI slot versions ( hey Bill ! )
Hi Bill !
wrote in message news:92d2c9fa-a222-404a-bab9- Regarding the PCI issue I am having, It is with a Linksys wireless adapter card with the screw on antenna. To elaborate on my situation about my other PB computers and the deal about installing the wireless PCI adapter card. The one computer has windows 98 , one has Windows 95 and one has XP. I did this just to verify it was not or did not seem to be an OS problem. None would recognize it, that is when turned on would not boot. No video no clicking of the hard drive nothing. These systems have the PB bios and the Mr. BIOS bios respectively. All three locked ....nothing....at power up. I put the wireless adapter card into the gateway with XP it worked fine. Right. Which leads me to believe the Linksys wireless PCI adapter is probably a version of PCI that the PB will not be able to use/recognize. That is why the computer is not able to boot up. bob |
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PCI slot versions ( hey Bill ! )
On Jul 13, 12:49 pm, Ben Myers
wrote: I concur with Bob Watts. And you may be better off with an older 802.11b PCI card, if you can still find one. Another possibility is to use a PCI card with a PCMCIA slot, then install a PCMICA wifi card. PCI-PCMCIA cards had some popularity back when the only wifi equipment available was PCMCIA, ostensibly for laptops which were supposedly the only computers that would need wifi. Since then, of course, a lot of people use PCI wifi cards as an alternative to very expensive or unsightly Ethernet wiring. On the other hand, I have dealt with serious issues, both in homes and in offices, where the proliferation of nearby wifi access points made wifi unrelaible. In one case, I converted an office with 5 computers from all wifi to all Ethernet Cat 5. I do NOT recommend trying a USB wifi adapter. Hardware made conforming to the PCI spec is supposed to be upwards, downwards and sidewards compatible, but it clearly is not any more... Ben Myers On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:40:51 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On My experience with PCI cards and Pacvkard Bell: On my old Corner unit with the 68x motherboard I installed a Linksys Ethernrt PCI . When I called my ISP, BellSouth they told me to upgrade the computer. It has Windows 95, 128 meg 233 mhz. I was having issues...could get the BellSouth page but not sign on. They said that it would not work with Windows 95. Needless to say, I was getting the sign on page but was having difficulties. Well fooling with it, it eventually worked and continues to do so. It works just fine. It is no speed demon by any means but does what I need . Regarding the PCI issue I am having, It is with a Linksys wireless adapter card with the screw on antenna. To elaborate on my situation about my other PB computers and the deal about installing the wireless PCI adapter card. The one computer has windows 98 , one has Windows 95 and one has XP. I did this just to verify it was not or did not seem to be an OS problem. None would recognize it, that is when turned on would not boot. No video no clicking of the hard drive nothing. These systems have the PB bios and the Mr. BIOS bios respectively. All three locked ....nothing....at power up. I put the wireless adapter card into the gateway with XP it worked fine. Bill I have 802..1 on my computer My daughther has 802.1g Besides video files my 802.1.b does job ok Back to the beach |
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