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computer isn't turning on: need help
Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find
answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. or maybe im totally wrong? Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! |
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computer isn't turning on: need help
On Feb 2, 7:32 pm, (zach_ski) wrote:
Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. or maybe im totally wrong? Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can short out two of the pins to start up the power supply, but that may not be the best thing to try. This site will show you what pins what. http://www.helpwithpcs.com/courses/p...nc-pinouts.htm |
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computer isn't turning on: need help
"redkcir" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 2, 7:32 pm, (zach_ski) wrote: Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. or maybe im totally wrong? Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can short out two of the pins to start up the power supply, but that may not be the best thing to try. This site will show you what pins what. http://www.helpwithpcs.com/courses/p...nc-pinouts.htm or you could put the power_on pins onto the reset pins then use the reset button to switch on.This is safer than jamming a screwdriver in there. |
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computer isn't turning on: need help
zach_ski wrote:
Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? Yes, you can connect the two pins that the switch connects to on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if that turns it on. Thats one of the least likely possibilitys tho. I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, Not necessarily. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. Not that it can power the system properly, or even notice that the motherboard has told it to turn on. same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. There can still be a short elsewhere or it can have died and can still be showing that its getting the 5VSB from the power supply. or maybe im totally wrong? Fraid so. Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? Yep. And there is more than just shorts involved too. I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? I gave up thinking, it just makes my head hurt. All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. The two main possibilitys are that the power supply has failed and that its ignoring the command by the motherboard to turn on when you press the button, or that the motherboard doesnt even notice that you have pressed the button anymore. Its obviously cheaper and easier to try another power supply than another motherboard. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can get useful information if you have a multimeter and know how to use it. But if you havent, the first thing to try a new power supply. If that makes no difference, check for bad caps on the motherboard. These are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard surface. The tops should be flat. If any have bulged or have leaked, thats a bad cap and likely the reason that the system isnt starting anymore. If there arent any bad caps visible, try unplugging all the cards, even the video card. One of those can fail and stop the system starting. Worth unplugging the drives too, they dont often produce that effect, but it can happen. If it looks like a dead motherboard, Asus has a 3 year warranty and it would be worth trying the motherboard loose on the desktop just before you return it. You can get a short to case if someone has dropped a screw into the system and hasnt got it out and loose on the desktop is the best way to check for a short like that. Pain to try, but worth it when you have eliminated other possibilitys. |
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On Feb 2, 9:57 pm, "Rod Speed" wrote:
zach_ski wrote: Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? Yes, you can connect the two pins that the switch connects to on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if that turns it on. Thats one of the least likely possibilitys tho. I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, Not necessarily. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. Not that it can power the system properly, or even notice that the motherboard has told it to turn on. same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. There can still be a short elsewhere or it can have died and can still be showing that its getting the 5VSB from the power supply. or maybe im totally wrong? Fraid so. Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? Yep. And there is more than just shorts involved too. I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? I gave up thinking, it just makes my head hurt. All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. The two main possibilitys are that the power supply has failed and that its ignoring the command by the motherboard to turn on when you press the button, or that the motherboard doesnt even notice that you have pressed the button anymore. Its obviously cheaper and easier to try another power supply than another motherboard. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can get useful information if you have a multimeter and know how to use it. But if you havent, the first thing to try a new power supply. If that makes no difference, check for bad caps on the motherboard. These are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard surface. The tops should be flat. If any have bulged or have leaked, thats a bad cap and likely the reason that the system isnt starting anymore. If there arent any bad caps visible, try unplugging all the cards, even the video card. One of those can fail and stop the system starting. Worth unplugging the drives too, they dont often produce that effect, but it can happen. If it looks like a dead motherboard, Asus has a 3 year warranty and it would be worth trying the motherboard loose on the desktop just before you return it. You can get a short to case if someone has dropped a screw into the system and hasnt got it out and loose on the desktop is the best way to check for a short like that. Pain to try, but worth it when you have eliminated other possibilitys. I'm not sure where the "stick a screwdriver in it" came from, but as an electrician, if I want to "short" something I just use a piece of wire rated for or exceeding the amperage of the device. In this case a small wire, 20 to 16 AWG. What I was talking about was shorting pins 13 and 14 on the MB connector from the PSU, by-passing the motherboard to turn on the PSU. |
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On Feb 3, 1:20 am, "redkcir" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:57 pm, "Rod Speed" wrote: zach_ski wrote: Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? Yes, you can connect the two pins that the switch connects to on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if that turns it on. Thats one of the least likely possibilitys tho. I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, Not necessarily. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. Not that it can power the system properly, or even notice that the motherboard has told it to turn on. same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. There can still be a short elsewhere or it can have died and can still be showing that its getting the 5VSB from the power supply. or maybe im totally wrong? Fraid so. Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? Yep. And there is more than just shorts involved too. I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? I gave up thinking, it just makes my head hurt. All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. The two main possibilitys are that the power supply has failed and that its ignoring the command by the motherboard to turn on when you press the button, or that the motherboard doesnt even notice that you have pressed the button anymore. Its obviously cheaper and easier to try another power supply than another motherboard. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can get useful information if you have a multimeter and know how to use it. But if you havent, the first thing to try a new power supply. If that makes no difference, check for bad caps on the motherboard. These are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard surface. The tops should be flat. If any have bulged or have leaked, thats a bad cap and likely the reason that the system isnt starting anymore. If there arent any bad caps visible, try unplugging all the cards, even the video card. One of those can fail and stop the system starting. Worth unplugging the drives too, they dont often produce that effect, but it can happen. If it looks like a dead motherboard, Asus has a 3 year warranty and it would be worth trying the motherboard loose on the desktop just before you return it. You can get a short to case if someone has dropped a screw into the system and hasnt got it out and loose on the desktop is the best way to check for a short like that. Pain to try, but worth it when you have eliminated other possibilitys. I'm not sure where the "stick a screwdriver in it" came from, but as an electrician, if I want to "short" something I just use a piece of wire rated for or exceeding the amperage of the device. In this case a small wire, 20 to 16 AWG. What I was talking about was shorting pins 13 and 14 on the MB connector from the PSU, by-passing the motherboard to turn on the PSU.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I forgot to mention that I am not sure about the pinout on a DELL PSU. I know they are different from a standard one, just not sure what. DELL uses a proprietary power supply in some of their rigs which can fry the MB if a standard PSU is used. |
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On Feb 3, 1:20 am, "redkcir" wrote:
On Feb 2, 9:57 pm, "Rod Speed" wrote: zach_ski wrote: Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? Yes, you can connect the two pins that the switch connects to on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if that turns it on. Thats one of the least likely possibilitys tho. I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, Not necessarily. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. Not that it can power the system properly, or even notice that the motherboard has told it to turn on. same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. There can still be a short elsewhere or it can have died and can still be showing that its getting the 5VSB from the power supply. or maybe im totally wrong? Fraid so. Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? Yep. And there is more than just shorts involved too. I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? I gave up thinking, it just makes my head hurt. All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. The two main possibilitys are that the power supply has failed and that its ignoring the command by the motherboard to turn on when you press the button, or that the motherboard doesnt even notice that you have pressed the button anymore. Its obviously cheaper and easier to try another power supply than another motherboard. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can get useful information if you have a multimeter and know how to use it. But if you havent, the first thing to try a new power supply. If that makes no difference, check for bad caps on the motherboard. These are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard surface. The tops should be flat. If any have bulged or have leaked, thats a bad cap and likely the reason that the system isnt starting anymore. If there arent any bad caps visible, try unplugging all the cards, even the video card. One of those can fail and stop the system starting. Worth unplugging the drives too, they dont often produce that effect, but it can happen. If it looks like a dead motherboard, Asus has a 3 year warranty and it would be worth trying the motherboard loose on the desktop just before you return it. You can get a short to case if someone has dropped a screw into the system and hasnt got it out and loose on the desktop is the best way to check for a short like that. Pain to try, but worth it when you have eliminated other possibilitys. I'm not sure where the "stick a screwdriver in it" came from, but as an electrician, if I want to "short" something I just use a piece of wire rated for or exceeding the amperage of the device. In this case a small wire, 20 to 16 AWG. What I was talking about was shorting pins 13 and 14 on the MB connector from the PSU, by-passing the motherboard to turn on the PSU.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - See this site.. http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1 |
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redkcir wrote
Rod Speed wrote zach_ski wrote Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? Yes, you can connect the two pins that the switch connects to on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if that turns it on. Thats one of the least likely possibilitys tho. I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, Not necessarily. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. Not that it can power the system properly, or even notice that the motherboard has told it to turn on. same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. There can still be a short elsewhere or it can have died and can still be showing that its getting the 5VSB from the power supply. or maybe im totally wrong? Fraid so. Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? Yep. And there is more than just shorts involved too. I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? I gave up thinking, it just makes my head hurt. All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. The two main possibilitys are that the power supply has failed and that its ignoring the command by the motherboard to turn on when you press the button, or that the motherboard doesnt even notice that you have pressed the button anymore. Its obviously cheaper and easier to try another power supply than another motherboard. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can get useful information if you have a multimeter and know how to use it. But if you havent, the first thing to try a new power supply. If that makes no difference, check for bad caps on the motherboard. These are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard surface. The tops should be flat. If any have bulged or have leaked, thats a bad cap and likely the reason that the system isnt starting anymore. If there arent any bad caps visible, try unplugging all the cards, even the video card. One of those can fail and stop the system starting. Worth unplugging the drives too, they dont often produce that effect, but it can happen. If it looks like a dead motherboard, Asus has a 3 year warranty and it would be worth trying the motherboard loose on the desktop just before you return it. You can get a short to case if someone has dropped a screw into the system and hasnt got it out and loose on the desktop is the best way to check for a short like that. Pain to try, but worth it when you have eliminated other possibilitys. I'm not sure where the "stick a screwdriver in it" came from, Its one simple way to eliminate any possibility of a problem with the physical switch and its wiring. but as an electrician, if I want to "short" something I just use a piece of wire rated for or exceeding the amperage of the device. In this case a small wire, 20 to 16 AWG. Its easier to use a screwdriver to eliminate any possibility of a problem with the physical switch and its wiring. You're only connecting the pins momentarily, not connecting them for long. If you connect them for long, the system will normally shut down like it does when you hold the front panel switch in instead of just pressing and releasing it. What I was talking about was shorting pins 13 and 14 on the MB connector from the PSU, by-passing the motherboard to turn on the PSU. What I was talking about was connecting the two header pins on the motherboard that the front panel switch connects to. Nothing to do with the ATX connector to the PSU. |
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redkcir wrote:
On Feb 3, 1:20 am, "redkcir" wrote: On Feb 2, 9:57 pm, "Rod Speed" wrote: zach_ski wrote: Well couldn't figure this out on my own so I went online to find answers.. hopefully someone can help me here. Allright, so one day after coming back from a long day at work I go to turn on my computer... computer doesn't turn on! So I check to see if it's plugged in to my PSU, and in the wall... check. Check to see if the PSU is turned "on"... check. So now I figure a few wires were jiggled around inside so I check ALL wires inside my case, everything is properly secured. Now I'm stuck... the "green light" on the motherboard is on, but nothing comes on when I push in the button on my case... is there anyway to by pass the button on my case?? Yes, you can connect the two pins that the switch connects to on the motherboard with a screwdriver and see if that turns it on. Thats one of the least likely possibilitys tho. I even took off the front and actually pressed in the button that goes to the mobo. I'm figuring the PSU is fine since my mobo light turns on, Not necessarily. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. Not that it can power the system properly, or even notice that the motherboard has told it to turn on. same with my mobo.. couldnt be a short with that.. All that shows is that its still producing the 5VSB voltage. There can still be a short elsewhere or it can have died and can still be showing that its getting the 5VSB from the power supply. or maybe im totally wrong? Fraid so. Can that mobo light still turn on even if there is a short ?? Yep. And there is more than just shorts involved too. I came to my own conclusion that it HAS to be the case... what do you guys think?? I gave up thinking, it just makes my head hurt. All the wires are plugged in... power IS getting to the mobo since the green light near the expansion slots turn on... I cant think of anything else. The two main possibilitys are that the power supply has failed and that its ignoring the command by the motherboard to turn on when you press the button, or that the motherboard doesnt even notice that you have pressed the button anymore. Its obviously cheaper and easier to try another power supply than another motherboard. here are the specs: ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3800 Antec NEOPOWER PSU 480watts Corsair ram.. 2gigs I appreciate it if anyone could give me some input on my current situation.. thanks! You can get useful information if you have a multimeter and know how to use it. But if you havent, the first thing to try a new power supply. If that makes no difference, check for bad caps on the motherboard. These are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard surface. The tops should be flat. If any have bulged or have leaked, thats a bad cap and likely the reason that the system isnt starting anymore. If there arent any bad caps visible, try unplugging all the cards, even the video card. One of those can fail and stop the system starting. Worth unplugging the drives too, they dont often produce that effect, but it can happen. If it looks like a dead motherboard, Asus has a 3 year warranty and it would be worth trying the motherboard loose on the desktop just before you return it. You can get a short to case if someone has dropped a screw into the system and hasnt got it out and loose on the desktop is the best way to check for a short like that. Pain to try, but worth it when you have eliminated other possibilitys. I'm not sure where the "stick a screwdriver in it" came from, but as an electrician, if I want to "short" something I just use a piece of wire rated for or exceeding the amperage of the device. In this case a small wire, 20 to 16 AWG. What I was talking about was shorting pins 13 and 14 on the MB connector from the PSU, by-passing the motherboard to turn on the PSU. I forgot to mention that I am not sure about the pinout on a DELL PSU. I know they are different from a standard one, just not sure what. DELL uses a proprietary power supply in some of their rigs which can fry the MB if a standard PSU is used. Its better to use the wire color than the pin number for that reason. |
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