Any chipset experts in here?

Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset, can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

On 2/5/2014 10:55 AM, Jim wrote:
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset, can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

Most motherboards manufactured with the X58 chipset (and certainly all
from ASUS) use the LGA 1366 socket. This, in itself, limits the i7 CPU's
to the 900 series and some Xeons. The limitations of the X58 chipset are
shown he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X58_Block_Diagram.png.

Other than that, it is still a fine motherboard. It can carry a maximum
of 24 GB of DDR3 RAM. The associated ICH10/10R Southbridge allows only
SATA 3 Gb ports and no USB 3 support; these may be major handicaps for
future expansion but can be overcome with expansion cards. We installed
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on these machines.

But the X58 motherboards and CPU's for them are very difficult to get
today. If one wishes to take the premium route, consider motherboards
with the Intel X79 chipset. But they face the same problems as that
for the X58 motherboards in that there are few (and expensive) CPU's
for the X79's Socket 2011. Operationally, our X79 motherboards compare
well to our X58 motherboards.

GR

On 05/02/2014 21:28, Ghostrider wrote:
On 2/5/2014 10:55 AM, Jim wrote:
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset, can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

Most motherboards manufactured with the X58 chipset (and certainly all
from ASUS) use the LGA 1366 socket. This, in itself, limits the i7 CPU's
to the 900 series and some Xeons. The limitations of the X58 chipset are
shown he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X58_Block_Diagram.png.

Other than that, it is still a fine motherboard. It can carry a maximum
of 24 GB of DDR3 RAM. The associated ICH10/10R Southbridge allows only
SATA 3 Gb ports and no USB 3 support; these may be major handicaps for
future expansion but can be overcome with expansion cards. We installed
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on these machines.

But the X58 motherboards and CPU's for them are very difficult to get
today. If one wishes to take the premium route, consider motherboards
with the Intel X79 chipset. But they face the same problems as that
for the X58 motherboards in that there are few (and expensive) CPU's
for the X79's Socket 2011. Operationally, our X79 motherboards compare
well to our X58 motherboards.

GR
Thanks for the reply Ghostrider, it's looking like the x58 maybe just a
wee bit too old then given no usb3 and sata3 ports, to be honest i can't
afford x79, so I may start looking at Z77 or even an H77 I don't mind
buying off ebay if i have to but have to consider none of my current kit
will work with new system so i'll be looking at cpu/ram and the
mainboard, your thoughts on H & Z77? or would go go even further back?

Jim

Jim wrote in news:bEzIu.28974$a75.26712
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On 05/02/2014 21:28, Ghostrider wrote:
On 2/5/2014 10:55 AM, Jim wrote:
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset, can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

Most motherboards manufactured with the X58 chipset (and certainly all
from ASUS) use the LGA 1366 socket. This, in itself, limits the i7 CPU's
to the 900 series and some Xeons. The limitations of the X58 chipset are
shown he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X58_Block_Diagram.png.

Other than that, it is still a fine motherboard. It can carry a maximum
of 24 GB of DDR3 RAM. The associated ICH10/10R Southbridge allows only
SATA 3 Gb ports and no USB 3 support; these may be major handicaps for
future expansion but can be overcome with expansion cards. We installed
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on these machines.

But the X58 motherboards and CPU's for them are very difficult to get
today. If one wishes to take the premium route, consider motherboards
with the Intel X79 chipset. But they face the same problems as that
for the X58 motherboards in that there are few (and expensive) CPU's
for the X79's Socket 2011. Operationally, our X79 motherboards compare
well to our X58 motherboards.

GR
Thanks for the reply Ghostrider, it's looking like the x58 maybe just a
wee bit too old then given no usb3 and sata3 ports, to be honest i can't
afford x79, so I may start looking at Z77 or even an H77 I don't mind
buying off ebay if i have to but have to consider none of my current kit
will work with new system so i'll be looking at cpu/ram and the
mainboard, your thoughts on H & Z77? or would go go even further back?

Jim


I am certainly no expert but my Asus P6X58D Premium has 2 Marvell
controller Sata 6.0 ports and 2 Nec controller USB 3.0

Dave

On 2/5/2014 4:18 PM, dave wrote:
Jim wrote in news:bEzIu.28974$a75.26712
@fx11.am4:

On 05/02/2014 21:28, Ghostrider wrote:
On 2/5/2014 10:55 AM, Jim wrote:
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset, can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

Most motherboards manufactured with the X58 chipset (and certainly all
from ASUS) use the LGA 1366 socket. This, in itself, limits the i7 CPU's
to the 900 series and some Xeons. The limitations of the X58 chipset are
shown he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X58_Block_Diagram.png.

Other than that, it is still a fine motherboard. It can carry a maximum
of 24 GB of DDR3 RAM. The associated ICH10/10R Southbridge allows only
SATA 3 Gb ports and no USB 3 support; these may be major handicaps for
future expansion but can be overcome with expansion cards. We installed
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on these machines.

But the X58 motherboards and CPU's for them are very difficult to get
today. If one wishes to take the premium route, consider motherboards
with the Intel X79 chipset. But they face the same problems as that
for the X58 motherboards in that there are few (and expensive) CPU's
for the X79's Socket 2011. Operationally, our X79 motherboards compare
well to our X58 motherboards.

GR
Thanks for the reply Ghostrider, it's looking like the x58 maybe just a
wee bit too old then given no usb3 and sata3 ports, to be honest i can't
afford x79, so I may start looking at Z77 or even an H77 I don't mind
buying off ebay if i have to but have to consider none of my current kit
will work with new system so i'll be looking at cpu/ram and the
mainboard, your thoughts on H & Z77? or would go go even further back?

Jim


I am certainly no expert but my Asus P6X58D Premium has 2 Marvell
controller Sata 6.0 ports and 2 Nec controller USB 3.0

Dave


That is correct. The X58 motherboards we use are ASUS P6X58D's. The
Marvell and NEC controllers are OEM-specific by Asus. That is, they
might not be found in other makes.

GR

On 2/5/2014 3:17 PM, Jim wrote:
On 05/02/2014 21:28, Ghostrider wrote:
On 2/5/2014 10:55 AM, Jim wrote:
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset, can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

Most motherboards manufactured with the X58 chipset (and certainly all
from ASUS) use the LGA 1366 socket. This, in itself, limits the i7 CPU's
to the 900 series and some Xeons. The limitations of the X58 chipset are
shown he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X58_Block_Diagram.png.

Other than that, it is still a fine motherboard. It can carry a maximum
of 24 GB of DDR3 RAM. The associated ICH10/10R Southbridge allows only
SATA 3 Gb ports and no USB 3 support; these may be major handicaps for
future expansion but can be overcome with expansion cards. We installed
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on these machines.

But the X58 motherboards and CPU's for them are very difficult to get
today. If one wishes to take the premium route, consider motherboards
with the Intel X79 chipset. But they face the same problems as that
for the X58 motherboards in that there are few (and expensive) CPU's
for the X79's Socket 2011. Operationally, our X79 motherboards compare
well to our X58 motherboards.

GR

Thanks for the reply Ghostrider, it's looking like the x58 maybe just a
wee bit too old then given no usb3 and sata3 ports, to be honest i can't
afford x79, so I may start looking at Z77 or even an H77 I don't mind
buying off ebay if i have to but have to consider none of my current kit
will work with new system so i'll be looking at cpu/ram and the
mainboard, your thoughts on H & Z77? or would go go even further back?

Jim

I built a system with the ASUS H87M-PRO for a friend over the holidays.
It looks pretty neat, including the video output. It is a LGA 1150
motherboard, making it pretty much state-of-the-art. I built it with
a i5-4670 Haswell 3.4 GHz CPU. IMO, this would be a better deal than
buying anything older.

BTW, what is your intended use for the computer?

GR

On 06/02/2014 00:51, Ghostrider wrote:
On 2/5/2014 3:17 PM, Jim wrote:
On 05/02/2014 21:28, Ghostrider wrote:
On 2/5/2014 10:55 AM, Jim wrote:
Just wondering what people's thoughts are on the older x58 chipset,
can
they still hold there own in today's world? Do they still take i3, i5
and i7 cpu's?

Jim

Most motherboards manufactured with the X58 chipset (and certainly all
from ASUS) use the LGA 1366 socket. This, in itself, limits the i7
CPU's
to the 900 series and some Xeons. The limitations of the X58 chipset
are
shown he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X58_Block_Diagram.png.

Other than that, it is still a fine motherboard. It can carry a maximum
of 24 GB of DDR3 RAM. The associated ICH10/10R Southbridge allows only
SATA 3 Gb ports and no USB 3 support; these may be major handicaps for
future expansion but can be overcome with expansion cards. We installed
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on these machines.

But the X58 motherboards and CPU's for them are very difficult to get
today. If one wishes to take the premium route, consider motherboards
with the Intel X79 chipset. But they face the same problems as that
for the X58 motherboards in that there are few (and expensive) CPU's
for the X79's Socket 2011. Operationally, our X79 motherboards compare
well to our X58 motherboards.

GR

Thanks for the reply Ghostrider, it's looking like the x58 maybe just a
wee bit too old then given no usb3 and sata3 ports, to be honest i can't
afford x79, so I may start looking at Z77 or even an H77 I don't mind
buying off ebay if i have to but have to consider none of my current kit
will work with new system so i'll be looking at cpu/ram and the
mainboard, your thoughts on H & Z77? or would go go even further back?

Jim

I built a system with the ASUS H87M-PRO for a friend over the holidays.
It looks pretty neat, including the video output. It is a LGA 1150
motherboard, making it pretty much state-of-the-art. I built it with
a i5-4670 Haswell 3.4 GHz CPU. IMO, this would be a better deal than
buying anything older.

BTW, what is your intended use for the computer?

GR
Just normal run of the mill stuff i'm no gamer so may even use built in
video to be honest, the only thing i'd use it for that would be
demanding would be some video encoding, maybe dvd9 to either dvd5, avi's
and now and then mkv's, but i am a huge data hog and right now have 10
HDD, so was unsure if i should look for motherboard with loads of sata
ports or what i'm more likely to do is just get run of the mill board
and invest in decent storage card of some sort.

Jim

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Thanks for the reply Ghostrider, it's looking like the x58 maybe just a
wee bit too old then given no usb3 and sata3 ports, to be honest i can't
afford x79, so I may start looking at Z77 or even an H77 I don't mind
buying off ebay if i have to but have to consider none of my current kit
will work with new system so i'll be looking at cpu/ram and the
mainboard, your thoughts on H & Z77? or would go go even further back?

If you decide to go the x58 route, I've got a motherboard that died due
to a coolant leak, with a working CPU that has no home. I'd let the CPU
go for a reasonable price

Let me know if you're interested and I'll figure out the specs and
shipping and whatnot. Email address is valid.

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