I'm number ONE !

Hi Gang !

Check out the article below, and see what computer was rated Number ONE !

http://tech.msn.com/products/article...4594343&page=1


Good to be at the Top-O-the-Heap !

Soon mine will have:

400MHz CPU
128Meg ram
some hdd ( haven't decided)
256K L2 cache
Sound Blaster
2 USB ports ( built onto motherboard )
10/100 NIC
Windows XP Pro

Parts have all been assembled and tested, just need to install. My only
concern is the rarest on the planet and potentially fragile PSU.



--
boBWatts®©
EartH
Watts Carburetion Service
Whizzbang Computers
Official collector of: transfat asian plastic junk trinkets !

You must be quietly proud!

PC World is misguided on its #10 choice, a Dell Dimension 4600. If PC World
insists on including a Dell model, my nominees would be the Optiplex GX270
(motherboard with blown capacitors) or the Inspiron 1000/1200/2200 notebook
(perhaps the most cheesy notebook construction of all time with a marvelous
90-day warranty)... Ben Myers

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:23:35 -0400, "Robert E. Watts"
wrote:

Hi Gang !

Check out the article below, and see what computer was rated Number ONE !

http://tech.msn.com/products/article...4594343&page=1


Good to be at the Top-O-the-Heap !

Soon mine will have:

400MHz CPU
128Meg ram
some hdd ( haven't decided)
256K L2 cache
Sound Blaster
2 USB ports ( built onto motherboard )
10/100 NIC
Windows XP Pro

Parts have all been assembled and tested, just need to install. My only
concern is the rarest on the planet and potentially fragile PSU.

Hi Ben !

( inserting comments as I go, as usual................. )

You must be quietly proud!


Yep. It's always good to be Number One.


PC World is misguided on its #10 choice, a Dell Dimension 4600. If PC
World
insists on including a Dell model, my nominees would be the Optiplex GX270
(motherboard with blown capacitors) or the Inspiron 1000/1200/2200
notebook
(perhaps the most cheesy notebook construction of all time with a
marvelous
90-day warranty)... Ben Myers

Well, * I think * that empirical evidence is more important than opinions,
and I think that a lot of magazines go more by opinions and advertising
dollars than good sense or evidence.

It's pretty safe to look back at recent history and pound someone like
Packard Bell. I think the real reason they had so much trouble is that they
sold so many computers ( to idiots ) at so many stores, you are bound to
have problems. Although I could type about this for hours, I'm not going
to.

If you're interested, I have some Dell's in my computer collection in my
Basement of Doom and Diet Cola. A couple of GX-260 (Pentium 4 ) models, a
GX-150 ( Pentium 3 Socket 370 with Tualatin support, 815 B stepping
chipset ), and various others. Interestingly, the GX-150 always acted
somewhat strangely, with frequent lockups. It was originally a Coppermine
800MHz machine, which I upgraded to a 933MHz, then 1GHz, then 1.33GHz
Tualatin. ( Just for grins ). I could never place the problem, it was pretty
erratic. Then, recently, I opened it up to steal the 1.33GHz Tualatin for my
Packard Bell Murano Project, and just happened to notice a "spot" on the
motherboard. One of the electrolytic caps had "fallen" off, and a few other
soldered on components were skewed. Also, the "spot" looked as if soldering
flux had spilled on that area. There was greenish/white corrosion all over
this area.

AH HA !

Acquired another EXACT ( without the damage :-) motherboard, and after a 15
minute surgery, it was perfect, problem solved. As an aside, I am amazed at
how easy ( sometimes ) Dell, Compaq, and a few others make it to change out
stuff. I only had to remove one Phillips screw to swap out that motherboard.
Completely tool free on everything else. Realy amazing.

Both of the GX-260 machines have never had a problem.

But if you go to a Compaq/IBM/Dell/Asus/(pick a newsgroup) newsgroup, you
would think that every product these companies made was junk. People just
don't think.

bob


--
boBWatts®©
EartH
Watts Carburetion Service
Whizzbang Computers
Official collector of: transfat asian plastic junk trinkets !

Bob,

Right. Dell Optiplexes, Dell Precisions and certain large clamshell tower Dell
systems are a treat to maintain. Some of the smaller ones are not as easy but
not bad, either.

You can also swap a P4 board into that GX150. Been there and done it. Your
choices would include GX240, GX260, (maybe) GX270, Precision 340/350/360,
Dimension 8200/8250/8300. With a power supply swap, you could also insyall
either a Dimension 8400 or a Precision 370 board. You would want to avoid the
Dimension 8200/8250 and Precision 340/350 with RAMBUS memory... Ben

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:58:00 -0400, "Robert E. Watts"
wrote:


Hi Ben !

( inserting comments as I go, as usual................. )

You must be quietly proud!


Yep. It's always good to be Number One.


PC World is misguided on its #10 choice, a Dell Dimension 4600. If PC
World
insists on including a Dell model, my nominees would be the Optiplex GX270
(motherboard with blown capacitors) or the Inspiron 1000/1200/2200
notebook
(perhaps the most cheesy notebook construction of all time with a
marvelous
90-day warranty)... Ben Myers

Well, * I think * that empirical evidence is more important than opinions,
and I think that a lot of magazines go more by opinions and advertising
dollars than good sense or evidence.

It's pretty safe to look back at recent history and pound someone like
Packard Bell. I think the real reason they had so much trouble is that they
sold so many computers ( to idiots ) at so many stores, you are bound to
have problems. Although I could type about this for hours, I'm not going
to.

If you're interested, I have some Dell's in my computer collection in my
Basement of Doom and Diet Cola. A couple of GX-260 (Pentium 4 ) models, a
GX-150 ( Pentium 3 Socket 370 with Tualatin support, 815 B stepping
chipset ), and various others. Interestingly, the GX-150 always acted
somewhat strangely, with frequent lockups. It was originally a Coppermine
800MHz machine, which I upgraded to a 933MHz, then 1GHz, then 1.33GHz
Tualatin. ( Just for grins ). I could never place the problem, it was pretty
erratic. Then, recently, I opened it up to steal the 1.33GHz Tualatin for my
Packard Bell Murano Project, and just happened to notice a "spot" on the
motherboard. One of the electrolytic caps had "fallen" off, and a few other
soldered on components were skewed. Also, the "spot" looked as if soldering
flux had spilled on that area. There was greenish/white corrosion all over
this area.

AH HA !

Acquired another EXACT ( without the damage :-) motherboard, and after a 15
minute surgery, it was perfect, problem solved. As an aside, I am amazed at
how easy ( sometimes ) Dell, Compaq, and a few others make it to change out
stuff. I only had to remove one Phillips screw to swap out that motherboard.
Completely tool free on everything else. Realy amazing.

Both of the GX-260 machines have never had a problem.

But if you go to a Compaq/IBM/Dell/Asus/(pick a newsgroup) newsgroup, you
would think that every product these companies made was junk. People just
don't think.

bob

On Apr 15, 11:04 am, Ben Myers
wrote:
Bob,

Right. Dell Optiplexes, Dell Precisions and certain large clamshell tower Dell
systems are a treat to maintain. Some of the smaller ones are not as easy but
not bad, either.

You can also swap a P4 board into that GX150. Been there and done it. Your
choices would include GX240, GX260, (maybe) GX270, Precision 340/350/360,
Dimension 8200/8250/8300. With a power supply swap, you could also insyall
either a Dimension 8400 or a Precision 370 board. You would want to avoid the
Dimension 8200/8250 and Precision 340/350 with RAMBUS memory... Ben

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:58:00 -0400, "Robert E. Watts"
wrote:





Hi Ben !

( inserting comments as I go, as usual................. )

You must be quietly proud!

Yep. It's always good to be Number One.

PC World is misguided on its #10 choice, a Dell Dimension 4600. If PC
World
insists on including a Dell model, my nominees would be the Optiplex GX270
(motherboard with blown capacitors) or the Inspiron 1000/1200/2200
notebook
(perhaps the most cheesy notebook construction of all time with a
marvelous
90-day warranty)... Ben Myers

Well, * I think * that empirical evidence is more important than opinions,
and I think that a lot of magazines go more by opinions and advertising
dollars than good sense or evidence.

It's pretty safe to look back at recent history and pound someone like
Packard Bell. I think the real reason they had so much trouble is that they
sold so many computers ( to idiots ) at so many stores, you are bound to
have problems. Although I could type about this for hours, I'm not going
to.

If you're interested, I have some Dell's in my computer collection in my
Basement of Doom and Diet Cola. A couple of GX-260 (Pentium 4 ) models, a
GX-150 ( Pentium 3 Socket 370 with Tualatin support, 815 B stepping
chipset ), and various others. Interestingly, the GX-150 always acted
somewhat strangely, with frequent lockups. It was originally a Coppermine
800MHz machine, which I upgraded to a 933MHz, then 1GHz, then 1.33GHz
Tualatin. ( Just for grins ). I could never place the problem, it was pretty
erratic. Then, recently, I opened it up to steal the 1.33GHz Tualatin for my
Packard Bell Murano Project, and just happened to notice a "spot" on the
motherboard. One of the electrolytic caps had "fallen" off, and a few other
soldered on components were skewed. Also, the "spot" looked as if soldering
flux had spilled on that area. There was greenish/white corrosion all over
this area.

AH HA !

Acquired another EXACT ( without the damage :-) motherboard, and after a 15
minute surgery, it was perfect, problem solved. As an aside, I am amazed at
how easy ( sometimes ) Dell, Compaq, and a few others make it to change out
stuff. I only had to remove one Phillips screw to swap out that motherboard.
Completely tool free on everything else. Realy amazing.

Both of the GX-260 machines have never had a problem.

But if you go to a Compaq/IBM/Dell/Asus/(pick a newsgroup) newsgroup, you
would think that every product these companies made was junk. People just
don't think.

bob- Hide quoted text -

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When comparing suck egg against suck ass it becomes hard to make a
choice.
I prefer suck egg.

I doubt that anyone at PC WORlLD(6,99 Newstand Price) actually had any
real world experience.
I rank their magazine suck egg and their opinions suck ass.