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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
My Canon i560 that up until now has been my photo printer is now a workhorse
color brochure printer. Refilling the cartridges is a snap and it works well. But now I need a good photo printer that I can use only (mostly) for photos and one that I can continue to refill the cartridges. This week Staples has the following on sale or clearance: Epson R380 $110 after rebate Canon ip4300 $90 clearance Canon ip 6700D 90 after rebate Any clear winner here? At this point I'm about ready to make a decision by coin toss. I've read several reviews and looked at ink refill sites, but still don't have a good feel for one is better than the others. -- Ben |
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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
"Plan9" wrote in message
... My Canon i560 that up until now has been my photo printer is now a workhorse color brochure printer. Refilling the cartridges is a snap and it works well. But now I need a good photo printer that I can use only (mostly) for photos and one that I can continue to refill the cartridges. This week Staples has the following on sale or clearance: Epson R380 $110 after rebate Canon ip4300 $90 clearance Canon ip 6700D 90 after rebate Any clear winner here? At this point I'm about ready to make a decision by coin toss. I've read several reviews and looked at ink refill sites, but still don't have a good feel for one is better than the others. -- Ben I don't know anything about the Epson printer. I have not used the two Canon printers as my previous generation Canon printers are still going strong - just like your i560. The Canon ip4300 has four photo ink carts, CMYK, and a larger pigment-based black ink cart used only when plain paper is selected and designed for text printing. The Canon ip6700 is a six color printer - CMYK plus a photo magenta and photo cyan which are lower dye-load inks. I use a Canon i960 which uses the same six photo color inks (previous generation inks for the bci-6 carts), and my wife has a Canon ip5000, with bci-6 CMYK carts plus lthe larger black pigment-based bci-3ebk cart. The ip5000 has one picoliter nozzles for the dye-based bci-6 carts and would be close to the ip4300 in function. The i960 was rated, in its day, as the best photo printer in the Canon line. I must say, that color photo prints from the ip5000 are also beautiful. I use MIS inks to refill carts for both of these printers and have great results. The Canon printers you noted both use carts with "chips" on them which register empty when the inks are used up. They can be refilled exactly the same way as your printer carts, but the chip can not be reset to read full for the printer. Canon has done this, I am sure, to thwart refilling or the use of aftermarket prefilled carts. If you refill and insert a cart that has been emptied you get a "nag" message that tells you that you will void your warranty if you continue. People who refill their carts know that they save so much using aftermarket inks that the warranty loss is less a problem than having to pay for OEM carts. There are now inks that are formulated for these printers by a few of the online vendors. I have read that the Magenta ink is a slightly different color and the others are essentially the same. Canon touts the newly formulated inks as being substantially more resistant to fading over time. If that is not a major issue for you, both of these printers would be a good choice, and the prices are reasonable. The ip6700D is very well priced. I would read the reviews on photo quality and make my choice between the ip4300 and the ip6700D based on which would do the best photo prints since that is why you are buying your next printer. Pay no attention to Measekite, our very own troll, who puts down anyone who posts messages about aftermarket inks. He has no experience with these inks, nor does he have hands-on experience with these two printers sufficient to give you advice. Your experience of refilling carts for your i560 is testimony to refute anything Measekite would say about good quality aftermarket refill inks. Quite obviously, it hasn't destroyed your printer, and this printer is an older generation from the ip4000 that Measekite has been using for four years. Thankfully, he and many others continue to use OEM Canon inks so Canon will maintain its business model of pricing their printers low and selling their inks at excessive prices. |
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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
Plan9 wrote: My Canon i560 that up until now has been my photo printer is now a workhorse color brochure printer. Refilling the cartridges is a snap and it works well. But now I need a good photo printer that I can use only (mostly) for photos and one that I can continue to refill the cartridges. This week Staples has the following on sale or clearance: Epson R380 $110 after rebate Canon ip4300 $90 clearance There has been many occassions that the IP4300 has been on sale with a rebate for around ^$60.00/ If you really want a Canon printer then you have to use Canon ink. Using anything else makes it not a complete Canon printer. Canon ip 6700D 90 after rebate Any clear winner here? Canon At this point I'm about ready to make a decision by coin toss. I've read several reviews and looked at ink refill sites, but still don't have a good feel for one is better than the others. Refills who cares. USe Canon ink. |
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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
Burt wrote:
"Plan9" wrote in message ... My Canon i560 that up until now has been my photo printer is now a workhorse color brochure printer. Refilling the cartridges is a snap and it works well. But now I need a good photo printer that I can use only (mostly) for photos and one that I can continue to refill the cartridges. This week Staples has the following on sale or clearance: Epson R380 $110 after rebate Canon ip4300 $90 clearance Canon ip 6700D 90 after rebate Any clear winner here? At this point I'm about ready to make a decision by coin toss. I've read several reviews and looked at ink refill sites, but still don't have a good feel for one is better than the others. -- Ben I don't know anything about the Epson printer. I have not used the two Canon printers as my previous generation Canon printers are still going strong - just like your i560. The Canon ip4300 has four photo ink carts, CMYK, and a larger pigment-based black ink cart used only when plain paper is selected and designed for text printing. The Canon ip6700 is a six color printer - CMYK plus a photo magenta and photo cyan which are lower dye-load inks. snip The ip4300 won my coin toss. :-) I bought two today, $70 each at Staples ($20 less than two days ago). Buying a second for a printhead backup and a full set of cartridges was a no-brainer; a full set of cartridges alone cost over $80. I plan on refilling the cartridges and if I destroy the printhead (I don't think so) then so-be-it; I have a backup and will know better next time. -- Ben |
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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
measekite wrote:
It is not just the risk of ruining the printhead. Idiot!!! It is the fading and the lower quality that you have to be willing to accept. More from out resident idiot! Stop lying you moron! Frank |
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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
"Plan9" wrote in message ... Burt wrote: "Plan9" wrote in message ... My Canon i560 that up until now has been my photo printer is now a workhorse color brochure printer. Refilling the cartridges is a snap and it works well. But now I need a good photo printer that I can use only (mostly) for photos and one that I can continue to refill the cartridges. This week Staples has the following on sale or clearance: Epson R380 $110 after rebate Canon ip4300 $90 clearance Canon ip 6700D 90 after rebate Any clear winner here? At this point I'm about ready to make a decision by coin toss. I've read several reviews and looked at ink refill sites, but still don't have a good feel for one is better than the others. -- Ben I don't know anything about the Epson printer. I have not used the two Canon printers as my previous generation Canon printers are still going strong - just like your i560. The Canon ip4300 has four photo ink carts, CMYK, and a larger pigment-based black ink cart used only when plain paper is selected and designed for text printing. The Canon ip6700 is a six color printer - CMYK plus a photo magenta and photo cyan which are lower dye-load inks. snip The ip4300 won my coin toss. :-) I bought two today, $70 each at Staples ($20 less than two days ago). Buying a second for a printhead backup and a full set of cartridges was a no-brainer; a full set of cartridges alone cost over $80. I plan on refilling the cartridges and if I destroy the printhead (I don't think so) then so-be-it; I have a backup and will know better next time. -- Ben Good price on the ip4300's! Sounds like a good decision to buy two. Keep the spare set filled, trade out the whole set when one is near empty, and refill the set you removed later. Important to keep the cover from the ink outlet and rubber band it onto the carts you take out to refill. After refilling them keep the outlet cover on and store them in a baggie or sealed food storage carton. You will lose the ink monitoring system as soon as you start refilling carts. Be sure to visually check the carts as you can damage the printhead if you run a cart dry. Too bad Canon built into their new monitoring system a self-destruct mechanism for those of us who refuse to buy their overpriced ink! I refill the i960 and ip5000 before the low ink signal comes on as the cart doesn't dry out as readily and will support more refills before purging. AND - pay no attention to our resident troll who hates the fact that we save lots of money using good quality bulk refill inks while he dutifully goes to his favorite Costco store and buys carts for his ip4000. His cost? about $8-$9 a cart in multiple cart packages. Our cost per cart refill? About $1. |
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Epson R380 or Canon ip4300 or ip6700D
On Aug 17, 3:45 pm, Plan9 wrote:
The ip4300 won my coin toss. :-) I bought two today, $70 each at Staples ($20 less than two days ago). Buying a second for a printhead backup and a full set of cartridges was a no-brainer; a full set of cartridges alone cost over $80. I plan on refilling the cartridges and if I destroy the printhead (I don't think so) then so-be-it; I have a backup and will know better next time. I'm rather pleased with my ip5200, which is basicly the ip4300 but weighing in slightly heavier. The only complaint I have is using HP paper which it's known to not work well with canons in general. The ip6700 is slightly better in this regard... but I would only go ip6700 if I didn't need a general purpose printer. The big difference with the ip6700D is an even distrubtion of ink nozzles, where the ip4300 has only 5pl drops of the yellow and black, a difference I can only really see if I use swellable swellable polymer paper. I've had decent luck with hobbicolors and MIS (inksupply) on this printer, though I didn't enjoy hobbi's "pigment black". 4 oz of the MIS pigment black and still going strong. |
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