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Quad Core Xeon plus Dual Core Xeon?
Hi,
I was recently looking at Dell servers and note their recommended config is two sockets - with Quad core in one and Dual in the other. Obviously this is somewhat non-symmetrical? Any idea why they would suggest this layout, as opposed to two Quads or two Duals? -- Gerry_uk |
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Quad Core Xeon plus Dual Core Xeon?
There are several reasons I can think of. All of them would be poor design. The BIOS might not support two quad cores. The OS might support only six processors. There might not be enough power for two quad cores. Gerry_uk wrote: Hi, I was recently looking at Dell servers and note their recommended config is two sockets - with Quad core in one and Dual in the other. Obviously this is somewhat non-symmetrical? Any idea why they would suggest this layout, as opposed to two Quads or two Duals? -- Gerry_uk -- Mike Walsh West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A. |
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Gerry_uk wrote:
Hi, I was recently looking at Dell servers and note their recommended config is two sockets - with Quad core in one and Dual in the other. Obviously this is somewhat non-symmetrical? Any idea why they would suggest this layout, as opposed to two Quads or two Duals? Do you have a URL for that ? I'd at least like to see the context of the statement. Paul |
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Quad Core Xeon plus Dual Core Xeon?
Mike Walsh wrote:
There are several reasons I can think of. All of them would be poor design. The BIOS might not support two quad cores. The OS might support only six processors. There might not be enough power for two quad cores. Please control your output line lengths (fixed here). They should not exceed 72, but 67 is better. Also please do not top-post (not fixed). Your answer belongs after (or intermixed with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all irrelevant material. See the following links: -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/ (taming google) http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/ (newusers) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Quad Core Xeon plus Dual Core Xeon?
There are several reasons I can think of. All of them would be
poor design. The BIOS might not support two quad cores. The OS might support only six processors. There might not be enough power for two quad cores. Please control your output line lengths (fixed here). They should not exceed 72, but 67 is better. Also please do not top-post (not fixed). Your answer belongs after (or intermixed with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all irrelevant material. See the following links: Do you have a blue flashing light in your hat? The only posts I have seen from you lately are repremanding people for bad grammar, the wrong line length or top-posting. Whilst I agree with your comments, it is becoming very irritating! |
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Quad Core Xeon plus Dual Core Xeon?
Hi Paul,
The reason there's no URL is because my Dell site is a secure site for ordering, but I can explain how to get to a similar page with the same choices: Go to the main Dell website, choose the type of "business" you want to be, choose products, and then servers, then choose something like Dell PE2950. Go to "Configure and buy" and note all the options you can choose. The first choices are the type of processors you would like. You should see some choices are in a different color and say "Dell Recommended". Paul wrote: Gerry_uk wrote: Hi, I was recently looking at Dell servers and note their recommended config is two sockets - with Quad core in one and Dual in the other. Obviously this is somewhat non-symmetrical? Any idea why they would suggest this layout, as opposed to two Quads or two Duals? Do you have a URL for that ? I'd at least like to see the context of the statement. Paul -- Gerry_uk |
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:17:00 +0100, "GT"
wrote: There are several reasons I can think of. All of them would be poor design. The BIOS might not support two quad cores. The OS might support only six processors. There might not be enough power for two quad cores. Please control your output line lengths (fixed here). They should not exceed 72, but 67 is better. Also please do not top-post (not fixed). Your answer belongs after (or intermixed with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all irrelevant material. See the following links: Do you have a blue flashing light in your hat? The only posts I have seen from you lately are repremanding people for bad grammar, the wrong line length or top-posting. Whilst I agree with your comments, it is becoming very irritating! If he only said "pretty please" would that be effective? The problem is that more people aren't taking the time to correct posters. Recognize that what makes usenet work is that there are some conventions, which if not policed to some degree, will be ignored by those too ignorant of them or their value. "Some" people think it isn't a problem, while trying to simultaneously ignore that the whole reason usenet works is because others AREN'T ignoring the conventions. It's like littering - you might throw a bit of trash in your yard and soon the wind blows it away never to be seen again, but if everyone continually did this, the effect would be trash everywhere. What if everyone posted without fixed line breaks like Mr Walsh does? IF that is what everyone did, then it would be a per-forum convention and everyone would have to, and could then, expect to reformat every message instead of having any preservation of what the author intended. At some point Mr Walsh made a brief claim that everyone's newsreader should reformat his posts for him so he doesn't have to follow conventions. He fails to realize not all newsreaders do this function and some deliberately don't, to preserve the author's intentions because in a modern society where everyone has been exposed to the written word since early childhood, it is fairly reasonable to assume that if an author chooses a unique format that it is for some benefit to the READER to preserve that format. Here it is the opposite, the reader must reformat it just to make it readable at all, nevermind any formatting for a normal level of readability. Don't be irritated, be glad that most people manage to follow the conventions and only a few need reminded of them. |
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Quad Core Xeon plus Dual Core Xeon?
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:34:01 +0100, Gerry_uk
wrote: Hi Paul, The reason there's no URL is because my Dell site is a secure site for ordering, but I can explain how to get to a similar page with the same choices: Go to the main Dell website, choose the type of "business" you want to be, choose products, and then servers, then choose something like Dell PE2950. Go to "Configure and buy" and note all the options you can choose. The first choices are the type of processors you would like. You could have at least linked right up until the point where it became an order if you couldn't get any further link to work. http://www.dell.com/content/products...spx/pedge_2950 For the benefit of others, a link to what was suggested above is here, http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...300&oc=becwfk2 Do you have a URL for that ? I'd at least like to see the context of the statement. It looks like it was just a misunderstanding of what "recommended" means, since Dell has no idea of the use and it was just a generic default choice on an add-on menu, most likely they had it recommended prior to offering quad core and merely forgot to change that "recommended" field to be updated to dual vs quad. In summary, remember that you need to know what you want to buy or it is likely someone else should be placing the order. A web page is designed and updated by humans, is subject to errors at any moment. I would expect that even if it had allowed buying one quad and one dual core, someone would have caught the mistake before it shipped and would have contacted the OP to determine if it should have 2 x dual or 2 x quad CPUs. |
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Gerry_uk wrote:
Hi Paul, The reason there's no URL is because my Dell site is a secure site for ordering, but I can explain how to get to a similar page with the same choices: Go to the main Dell website, choose the type of "business" you want to be, choose products, and then servers, then choose something like Dell PE2950. Go to "Configure and buy" and note all the options you can choose. The first choices are the type of processors you would like. You should see some choices are in a different color and say "Dell Recommended". The description here of the PE2950, is implying matched pairs. http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/prod...spec s#tabtop And at least for me, when I "Configure" one, the two items for processors (initial processor choice, and the "Additional Processor"), don't have a green "Dell recommended" coloration. There is a green band over top of the Windows Server 2003 R2 operating system choice. If I was spending the bosses money, I don't think I'd be caught dead with mismatched processors :-) Certainly from a FSB protocol point of view, I don't see a reason for a problem. The chipset is 5000X. There is a block diagram showing the FSB connections for the two processor sockets, are independent. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=2&id=2002 When I look at the 5000X Northbridge datasheet, I notice there is one clock (CORECLK) which looks to be used by both processor busses. So mixing FSB speeds doesn't look like an option. If a dual and a quad shared the same FSB speed, maybe that would work. But I wouldn't take any chances, and would match them. ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/31307003.pdf Paul Paul wrote: Gerry_uk wrote: Hi, I was recently looking at Dell servers and note their recommended config is two sockets - with Quad core in one and Dual in the other. Obviously this is somewhat non-symmetrical? Any idea why they would suggest this layout, as opposed to two Quads or two Duals? Do you have a URL for that ? I'd at least like to see the context of the statement. Paul |
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Hi Kony,
The Premiere login (referenced in my original post) requires a password at the FIRST page, you can't give a URL "just before the order". Most of the Dell site will only work when you're in the correct country and when you have cookies already in place, for example when I click your second link below it just gives an error saying the Data cannot be found, probably because I'm in the wrong country and don't have a cookie in place. kony wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:34:01 +0100, Gerry_uk wrote: Hi Paul, The reason there's no URL is because my Dell site is a secure site for ordering, but I can explain how to get to a similar page with the same choices: Go to the main Dell website, choose the type of "business" you want to be, choose products, and then servers, then choose something like Dell PE2950. Go to "Configure and buy" and note all the options you can choose. The first choices are the type of processors you would like. You could have at least linked right up until the point where it became an order if you couldn't get any further link to work. http://www.dell.com/content/products...spx/pedge_2950 For the benefit of others, a link to what was suggested above is here, http://configure.us.dell.com/dellsto...300&oc=becwfk2 Do you have a URL for that ? I'd at least like to see the context of the statement. It looks like it was just a misunderstanding of what "recommended" means, since Dell has no idea of the use and it was just a generic default choice on an add-on menu, most likely they had it recommended prior to offering quad core and merely forgot to change that "recommended" field to be updated to dual vs quad. In summary, remember that you need to know what you want to buy or it is likely someone else should be placing the order. A web page is designed and updated by humans, is subject to errors at any moment. I would expect that even if it had allowed buying one quad and one dual core, someone would have caught the mistake before it shipped and would have contacted the OP to determine if it should have 2 x dual or 2 x quad CPUs. -- Gerry_uk |
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