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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Tx2 wrote:
In article , , a.k.a Mark S. says... If the likes of CCL have scared you off I'd give it up as a bad job... ;-) I might just give them another try though, they seem to get few complaints in here these days. If you can view the website! For me it's taking about 5 minutes to download http://www.cclonline.com/ and similar times for anything else on the site, not that I've had the patience to try too many! It wasn't like this a few weeks ago.. Robert -- La grenouille songe..dans son château d'eau |
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Well-Tech Ltd wrote:
"Tx2" wrote in message t... In article , , a.k.a Mark S. says... . Guess what, it went wrong - I was sent someone else's order. Not the sort of things I can pass onto my own customers now is it... If you have 'customers' then surely you should be using trade suppliers and not retailers ? Unless you order in huge volume, many online retailers are actually cheaper than "trade" suppliers. Don't fall into the trap of thinking trade is always cheaper! -- Mike |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:54:03 +0000, Robert Marshall
wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Tx2 wrote: In article , , a.k.a Mark S. says... If the likes of CCL have scared you off I'd give it up as a bad job... ;-) I might just give them another try though, they seem to get few complaints in here these days. If you can view the website! For me it's taking about 5 minutes to download http://www.cclonline.com/ and similar times for anything else on the site, not that I've had the patience to try too many! It wasn't like this a few weeks ago.. Robert I placed an order with CCL in the early hours the other day, using a new card regsitered to my new address with delivery to my old address. Obviously expecting problems... they emailed me first thing querying the order details, I wrote back explaining the situation and it was all sorted and processed. Mark S. |
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"Tx2" wrote in message t... In article , , a.k.a Mike Redrobe says... Unless you order in huge volume, many online retailers are actually cheaper than "trade" suppliers. Don't fall into the trap of thinking trade is always cheaper! Precisely. Rubbish ! |
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"Tx2" wrote in message t... Not at all so far as I am concerned. Firstly you suggest I "surely" should be using trade, and now when I agree with what the OP says, you call it rubbish ... FACT : after 3 years of trading as a Sole Trader, and having actually used trade suppliers, my business has found no benefit in doing so, both through cost and time. FACT : After ten years as n limited company I say you're taking rubbish. FACT : The statement made above is quite correct AFAIC. There is a common perception that trade is *always* cheaper. It isn't in my experience which has unquestionably proven it. FACT : It is always cheaper FACT : I don't do enough business in hardware/software sales to benefit from the higher volume discounts offered by traders. FACT: You don't need to buy in major bulk to benefit from trade prices (and service for that matter) which are miles better than the retail sites you're talking about. YMMV, so please don't 'rubbish' mine. I'm 'speaking' from experience of my business, you are 'speaking' via assumptions of it. FACT : I'm speaking from years more experience than you, you are the one making assumptions. |
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YMMV, so please don't 'rubbish' mine. I'm 'speaking' from experience of my business, you are 'speaking' via assumptions of it. Calling on all your three years of experience, you should also be aware of the fact that a trade supplier, and by that I mean ones that don't deal with the general public at all, will be dealing with probably fifty times fewer orders per day than the likes of ebuyer, aria etc (although each order will be larger) they are less prone to f***ing orders up. When I had my retail shop, I received probably about six orders per week from two or three trade suppliers and I can count on my fingers the number of complaints I had about supplier service. Add to that, a miles better RMA service etc (probably again based on the fact that they deal with numerically fewer customers). Then the fact the actual pounds and pennies saving may be small if your orders are small, you're still likely to come out ahead because of reliability and quality service. |
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Well-Tech Ltd wrote:
FACT : The statement made above is quite correct AFAIC. There is a common perception that trade is *always* cheaper. It isn't in my experience which has unquestionably proven it. FACT : It is always cheaper Can we stop the silly 'FACT' bit please. So, can you name some of these trade suppliers please, I have a limited company and buy both software and hardware fairly regularly (but in small quantities) and would be pleased to hear of reliable suppliers. -- Chris Green |
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wrote in message ... Well-Tech Ltd wrote: So, can you name some of these trade suppliers please, I have a limited company and buy both software and hardware fairly regularly (but in small quantities) and would be pleased to hear of reliable suppliers. -- Chris Green Chris, For software, try www.softsource.co.uk, hardware try KMS, VIP and for some things, Target Components, for stuff like cables and patch panels, try Connections (www.cxcxcx.com), but in all cases, with the possible exception of VIP, do your negotiating on the phone and don't take website prices as 'reality'. In the case of CX, phone them and tell them that you got their name/number from CTO. It's hardly worth a response to the other asshole, but you'll be able to beat even the cheapest retailers even on small orders with the above. The important thing is to research and negotiate. Get yourself on the circulation of CTO magazine. You'll still see ads for the likes of Softsource and Aria in there, but you'll also find some much better disties. Cheers, Ally. |
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"Tx2" wrote in message t... complete pish snipped Fair enough, you obviously have the whole market pretty well sussed. ;-) |
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"Tx2" wrote in message t... Belittlement does sod all for integrity, but see my other response to your assumptions. You're the one who originally stated that you were talking from experience while I was talking from opinion. Suit yourself mate, I don't really care how much money you throw away. Strangely enough, my original posting was aimed at helping you, or suggesting that you should be using trade suppliers to service your customers. It's your 'business' but as your original posting was based around worries about suppliers, I thought you may have welcomed a bit of advice, and my advice would be 'use proper trade suppliers'. If you don't want to take it, feel free not to. |
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