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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
In message , John Doe
writes Unfortunately we can't depend on Microsoft to improve personal computer input, but I think telephone systems might help drive the technology and eventually make it more accessible. Path: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm04.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy .net!pd7cy3no!pd7cy4no!shaw.ca!pd7urf2no.POSTED! 53ab2750!not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.71.163.100 From: Garrot invalid invalid.invalid Subject: Why are mainboard boxes already opened? Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit,alt.comp .periphs.mainboard.asus User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Xns984FB395870340123456789 207.115.17.102 R-6dnf7vz40p-L3YnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d comcast.com wrr8f81hsya6$.15yawdf 6rg9hg.dlg 40tude.net g8g2i2do00ba26rl5316n9fhdbm1prdsef 4ax.com Xns9850C1A24DFEA0123456789 207.115.17.102 joUJrykGoDJFFwQb yewbank.demon.co.uk Xns9852E4CCD9F2C0123456789 207.115.17.102 8Pt+ykFgiMJFFwg5 yewbank.demon.co.uk Xns98532DFB3E9FE0123456789 207.115.17.102 QMkFiaMERNJFFwV+ yewbank.demon.co.uk Xns98533E4592FF20123456789 207.115.17.102 Message-ID: 13oz61cygp52r$.j8g2e3pv9tp6$.dlg 40tude.net Lines: 13 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:12:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.67.253.205 X-Complaints-To: abuse shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7urf2no 1160053976 24.67.253.205 (Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:12:56 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:12:56 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:476155 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit:606647 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:754168 What is your personal insecurity that you need to display this garbage every post you make? -- Clive. |
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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
"John Doe" wrote in message ... Garrot invalid invalid.invalid wrote: On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:07:15 GMT, John Doe wrote: I use it sometimes with high background noise. It's a skill like touch typing, only much harder. Knowing lots about personal computing helps. I do know how you feel, I've been there. What software do you use? NaturallySpeaking. It's the only viable speech recognition software currently available. Used DRAGON since it was free at the Comp shows....no big deal....and O really loved the hours of set up. If your handicapped physically then its a God Sent (in your case I can't see how being mentally handicapped is benifited by specognition) , other than that, a whole lotta hooey.... I have voice recognition software for games called Game Commander and it is only 98% accurate, I need 100% accurasy before I will buy more similar software. That's up to you and your capabilities, 100% accuracy is not necessary to benefit from speech recognition. If I required 100% accuracy, I couldn't use Windows. In fact, there are some subtleties with language which make 100% accuracy almost impossible. I am beginning to see why after using speech-recognition for one or two years. Learning to cope with your computer's inadequacies/imperfections helps cope with speech recognition. It's just another program, but much more complex than usual. You have to be very patient and flexible. On a dime, you have to switch from expecting the speech recognition to do it for you to doing it for yourself, efficiently changing from one mode to the other. Using something that's not 100% accurate is a sign of computer user maturity, IMO. Then again, if you don't have a good speaking voice, it probably won't work no matter how computer proficient you are. I use it for almost all of my dictation/typing, but it really really shines for activating macros in Windows. It's amazing the difference between using keyboard shortcuts and using a nearly unlimited number of two (plus or minus one) syllable activators to launch scripts. There is a significant amount of overhead. You do need a fast computer. From the graph in my secondary monitor, its CPU usage appears to to be about 10 to 15%. That's a lot while gaming. I use keypad zero to turn off/on the speech recognition. Again, it's not easy. There are daunting requirements. ... NaturallySpeaking, the professional version if you want to do scripting ... a fast computer, very fast if you want to use speech recognition while gaming, and as any gamer knows you don't want any unnecessary programs running ... the ability to cope with imperfection and instantly switch from voice input to manual input and back ... the ability to concentrate ... a good speaking voice, that's probably the biggest problem if you don't already speak clearly, I practiced for a year or two speaking into a digital recorder and playing it back (digital recorders are very useful for taking notes anyway) Of course, the ability to recognize what is being said is most important. There is lots of hype in speech-recognition sales, every new version of speech recognition is "25% more accurate" than the last even though the last version was already "99% accurate". And if you ever ask questions in the speech users group, you will run into a guy who sells microphones and sound cards. He'll sell you as much as he can, promising better speech recognition, and when it still doesn't work it doesn't take much to figure out it's your voice that's the problem. In other words, all you can do is hang your head in shame because all of his other customers (however few in reality) can use speech recognition just fine. Hardware doesn't make all that much difference. I bought a cheap USB microphone, removed the analog wire going from the microphone to the analog to digital converter, soldered the microphone right there, and made my own headset/headband for it. Unfortunately we can't depend on Microsoft to improve personal computer input, but I think telephone systems might help drive the technology and eventually make it more accessible. 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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
"JAD" kapasitor earthcharter.net wrote:
"John Doe" jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in message news:Xns98539DFE8286F0123456789 207.115.17.102... Garrot invalid invalid.invalid wrote: On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:07:15 GMT, John Doe wrote: I use it sometimes with high background noise. It's a skill like touch typing, only much harder. Knowing lots about personal computing helps. I do know how you feel, I've been there. What software do you use? NaturallySpeaking. It's the only viable speech recognition software currently available. Used DRAGON since it was free at the Comp shows....no big deal....and O really loved the hours of set up. The only set up I do is reading the introductory paragraphs. My voice does the rest. My understanding of computer programs suggests that most of the work is going to be done by the programmers. If they don't get it right, you aren't going to have much luck trying to make it work better. Working with a computer is kind of like working with a pet, but annoying. Trying to understand the stupid computer is much easier than trying to make it understand you. If your handicapped physically then its a God Sent (in your case I can't see how being mentally handicapped is benifited by specognition) lol On the contrary, you have to be very patient/understanding to put up with all the disrespect. other than that, a whole lotta hooey.... That's the typical cop out from someone who doesn't speak well enough to use speech recognition. I understand, I felt that way too. Path: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com!newsdbm04.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!h wmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.lga!newsfe05.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "JAD" kapasitor earthcharter.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit,alt.comp .periphs.mainboard.asus References: Xns984FB395870340123456789 207.115.17.102 R-6dnf7vz40p-L3YnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d comcast.com wrr8f81hsya6$.15yawdf6rg9hg.dlg 40tude.net g8g2i2do00ba26rl5316n9fhdbm1prdsef 4ax.com Xns9850C1A24DFEA0123456789 207.115.17.102 joUJrykGoDJFFwQb yewbank.demon.co.uk Xns9852E4CCD9F2C0123456789 207.115.17.102 8Pt+ykFgiMJFFwg5 yewbank.demon.co.uk Xns98532DFB3E9FE0123456789 207.115.17.102 QMkFiaMERNJFFwV+ yewbank.demon.co.uk Xns98533E4592FF20123456789 207.115.17.102 13oz61cygp52r$.j8g2e3pv9tp6$.dlg 40tude.net Xns98539DFE8286F0123456789 207.115.17.102 Subject: Why are mainboard boxes already opened? Lines: 149 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: 32gVg.2017$qc1.570 newsfe05.lga X-Trace: hikehalegljkcnnfkannfilpcpbbolnmddohlekjefjiflolln ijfcjfbjnkiolegekgajconjpekfngogfflbdihgliocabjccf ofacecbhpncphdfafmjnmeknhoppenfnojecgjgcfcij NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:53:51 MST Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:53:22 -0700 Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:476213 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit:606651 alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:754203 |
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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
"Clive Coleman." wrote:
What is your personal insecurity that you need to display this garbage every post you make? What makes jerks like you who pick on meaningless little typos? |
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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
John Doe wrote
Clive Coleman wrote What is your personal insecurity that you need to display this garbage every post you make? What makes jerks like you who pick on meaningless little typos? ****ing, the same thing that makes everyone. |
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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:31:51 GMT, John Doe wrote:
NaturallySpeaking. It's the only viable speech recognition software currently available. That's up to you and your capabilities, 100% accuracy is not necessary to benefit from speech recognition. It is when I'm playing a game and I want to switch to my sniper rifle and the speech recognition software gives me a knife instead. Yes, that has happened. I'm British so I already speak as clear as is possible. |
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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
My ASUS mainboard from ZipZoomFly looks factory fresh but came without any seals whatsoever. I suppose another reason is serious cost-cutting. Or maybe it's a cultural thing "Angry American" wrote: I purchase ASUS products from tier one providers. And I can say without exception that all ASUS items come with no seals on the boxes. No shrink wrap either. These are retail packages, not OEM. I would venture to guess that if you do get ASUS product with a seal, it's either put on by the warehouse or by the shop you purchased it from. |
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Why are mainboard boxes already opened?
I wrote:
There is a significant amount of overhead [with NaturallySpeaking speech-recognition]. From the graph in my secondary monitor, its CPU usage appears to to be about 10 to 15%. Now using an Operon 152 on a new mainboard with the same RAM, while the microphone is active CPU usage appears to average about 3%. OINK OINK |
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