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  #1  
Old July 14th 04, 02:02 PM
Doug Ramage
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Default Better than a G550

I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800 Pro not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
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  #2  
Old July 14th 04, 08:32 PM
Mike T
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My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is that the Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor resolution and the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450 that I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video and ATI surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600 Ultra for TV out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out using TV test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800 Pro not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]




  #3  
Old July 14th 04, 09:36 PM
Rick
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If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else. Matrox
switched certain components to an integrated design in later models in
order to reduce costs, and while video quality is still good, later models
don't have the same jump-off-the-screen-and-down-your-throat quality
as the G400 Max.

Rick

"Mike T" wrote in message .. .
My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is that the Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor resolution and the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450 that I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video and ATI surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600 Ultra for TV out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out using TV test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800 Pro not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]






  #4  
Old July 15th 04, 01:31 AM
David Livingstone
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In message , Rick writes

If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else.



And any ideas for a newer 4/8x AGP board?

The earlier G400 series needs a pin (R68) shorted I believe to give 4x
AGP ?
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David
  #5  
Old July 15th 04, 03:16 AM
Rick
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"David Livingstone" wrote in message ...
In message , Rick writes

If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else.



And any ideas for a newer 4/8x AGP board?


With the same video out quality? No.

The earlier G400 series needs a pin (R68) shorted I believe to give 4x
AGP ?


Yes.

Rick


  #6  
Old July 15th 04, 10:27 AM
Doug Ramage
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Thanks, Rick.

Is there more than one version of the G400 Max?
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Doug Ramage

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"Rick" wrote in message
...
If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else. Matrox
switched certain components to an integrated design in later models in
order to reduce costs, and while video quality is still good, later models
don't have the same jump-off-the-screen-and-down-your-throat quality
as the G400 Max.

Rick

"Mike T" wrote in message

.. .
My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is that the

Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor resolution and

the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450 that I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video and ATI

surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600 Ultra for TV

out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out using TV

test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800 Pro

not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]








  #7  
Old July 15th 04, 11:26 AM
Rick
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There was more than one version of the G400. If I remember
correctly there was only one version of the G400 Max.

If it's AGP4X compatibility you're concerned about, check the
part number and look for a "4A", e.g. G4+MDH4A32GB.

Rick

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message ...
Thanks, Rick.

Is there more than one version of the G400 Max?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else. Matrox
switched certain components to an integrated design in later models in
order to reduce costs, and while video quality is still good, later models
don't have the same jump-off-the-screen-and-down-your-throat quality
as the G400 Max.

Rick

"Mike T" wrote in message

.. .
My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is that the

Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor resolution and

the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450 that I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video and ATI

surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600 Ultra for TV

out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out using TV

test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800 Pro

not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]










  #8  
Old July 15th 04, 12:05 PM
Doug Ramage
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Rick, my research seems to confirm your recollection that there is only a
single version of the G400 Max. But all G400s appear to be AGP 2x and 4x
compatible - although this may mean just the later ones?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
There was more than one version of the G400. If I remember
correctly there was only one version of the G400 Max.

If it's AGP4X compatibility you're concerned about, check the
part number and look for a "4A", e.g. G4+MDH4A32GB.

Rick

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message

...
Thanks, Rick.

Is there more than one version of the G400 Max?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else. Matrox
switched certain components to an integrated design in later models in
order to reduce costs, and while video quality is still good, later

models
don't have the same jump-off-the-screen-and-down-your-throat quality
as the G400 Max.

Rick

"Mike T" wrote in message

.. .
My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is that

the
Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor resolution

and
the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450 that

I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video and

ATI
surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600 Ultra

for TV
out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out using

TV
test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform

monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800

Pro
not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]












  #9  
Old July 15th 04, 12:41 PM
Rick
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All G400's can work at either AGP2X (3.3v) or AGP4X (1.5v)
signaling. But Matrox had a hardware error in the original G400's
which prevented them from autoswitching to 1.5v. Shorting free
resistor slot R68 on the board was the workaround for the problem.
Matrox incorporated the fix in later revisions of the card and
eventually added a "4A" to the part number to denote full AGP4X
compatibility.

Rick

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message ...
Rick, my research seems to confirm your recollection that there is only a
single version of the G400 Max. But all G400s appear to be AGP 2x and 4x
compatible - although this may mean just the later ones?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
There was more than one version of the G400. If I remember
correctly there was only one version of the G400 Max.

If it's AGP4X compatibility you're concerned about, check the
part number and look for a "4A", e.g. G4+MDH4A32GB.

Rick

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message

...
Thanks, Rick.

Is there more than one version of the G400 Max?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else. Matrox
switched certain components to an integrated design in later models in
order to reduce costs, and while video quality is still good, later

models
don't have the same jump-off-the-screen-and-down-your-throat quality
as the G400 Max.

Rick

"Mike T" wrote in message
.. .
My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is that

the
Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor resolution

and
the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450 that

I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video and

ATI
surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600 Ultra

for TV
out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out using

TV
test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform

monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon 9800

Pro
not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]














  #10  
Old July 15th 04, 04:58 PM
Doug Ramage
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Rick, thanks again for the info.
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Doug Ramage

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"Rick" wrote in message
...
All G400's can work at either AGP2X (3.3v) or AGP4X (1.5v)
signaling. But Matrox had a hardware error in the original G400's
which prevented them from autoswitching to 1.5v. Shorting free
resistor slot R68 on the board was the workaround for the problem.
Matrox incorporated the fix in later revisions of the card and
eventually added a "4A" to the part number to denote full AGP4X
compatibility.

Rick

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message

...
Rick, my research seems to confirm your recollection that there is only

a
single version of the G400 Max. But all G400s appear to be AGP 2x and

4x
compatible - although this may mean just the later ones?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
There was more than one version of the G400. If I remember
correctly there was only one version of the G400 Max.

If it's AGP4X compatibility you're concerned about, check the
part number and look for a "4A", e.g. G4+MDH4A32GB.

Rick

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message

...
Thanks, Rick.

Is there more than one version of the G400 Max?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]

"Rick" wrote in message
...
If 3D speed isn't an issue and video playback quality is your

primary
concern, find a Matrox G400 Max and scrap everything else. Matrox
switched certain components to an integrated design in later

models in
order to reduce costs, and while video quality is still good,

later
models
don't have the same jump-off-the-screen-and-down-your-throat

quality
as the G400 Max.

Rick

"Mike T" wrote in message
.. .
My experience with the ATI 8500 series and Nvidia Ti 4200 is

that
the
Matrox
will have superior TV out quality. The ATI has very poor

resolution
and
the
Nvidia was a little better but neither was as good as the G450

that
I
currently use. I believe that Matrox knows how to "do" video

and
ATI
surely
does not. I will be measuring the performance of my FX5600

Ultra
for TV
out
quality soon, no more ATI stuff for me. I measured the TV out

using
TV
test
signals recorded on a DVD test disk and a Tektronix TV Waveform

monitor.

Mike T

"Doug Ramage" wrote in message
...
I am looking to improve video playback quality.

Currently I am using an FX5200, but I have a G550 and Radeon

9800
Pro
not
being used (long story).

Is the G550 likely to be better than the FX5200?

Would the 9800 Pro be better than the G550?

Would a P650 be better than the above?

Any views/comments?
--
Doug Ramage

[watch spam trap]
















 




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