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Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?



 
 
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Old September 10th 15, 11:30 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

Hello,

I just saw a funny nerd/nerd video on youtube.

The somewhat cute/shy nerd claims that an intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores
can beat amd 6 core.

(4 fake cores being hyper threading).

Now the nerd is not showing any benchmarks or anything... but his hypothesis
is kinda interesting.

The 4 fake cores/hyper cores are only used if the 4 real cores or busy/or
waiting for something but some resources still available.

However the challenge is clear:

4 real + 4 fake = 8 vs 6

So it's kind of an interesting claim.

Also it can be interesting for the futu

For example:

A 32 real core + 32 fake core vs a 48 real core or so...

Personally I'd think the 6 core would run circles around the intel 4 core...

But perhaps there is some merit to this whacky nerd story !

Shed some light on this ?

I'd like to see some benchmarks of 4 core + 4 hyper cores vs 6 core amd.

Spending a little bit of extra money to get the hyper-threaded version...
would that than beat an 6 core ? hmmm...

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Old September 10th 15, 12:16 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Paul
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beatsAMD 6 core ?

Skybuck Flying wrote:

The somewhat cute/shy nerd claims that an intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper
cores can beat amd 6 core.


It's easier to just look them up.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Paul
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Old September 10th 15, 12:21 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 12:30:26 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
Gave us:

The 4 fake cores/hyper cores are only used if the 4 real cores or busy/or
waiting for something but some resources still available.


Nope, All 8 pipes (cores) get used, idiot. AMD sucks.
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Old September 10th 15, 04:37 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

It would be a whole lot easier if these charts mentioned core counts and
hyper core counts !

Too lazy to decode all those model numbers or whatever ?! =D

Yes, I am lazy nowadays and when I look at these charts for good reason too
!

This is fricking tiring LOL.

The nerd did mention some fokking model number.

But quite frankly they can go shove their model numbers up their arses.

Name it "INTEL CPU CORE 4" or **** off ! lol =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Old September 10th 15, 04:55 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beatsAMD 6 core ?

Skybuck Flying wrote:
It would be a whole lot easier if these charts mentioned core counts and
hyper core counts !

Too lazy to decode all those model numbers or whatever ?! =D

Yes, I am lazy nowadays and when I look at these charts for good reason
too !

This is fricking tiring LOL.

The nerd did mention some fokking model number.

But quite frankly they can go shove their model numbers up their arses.

Name it "INTEL CPU CORE 4" or **** off ! lol =D

Bye,
Skybuck.


You use the search box and type in the model number here.

http://ark.intel.com

*******

The AMD page has gone downhill. Not as good as it used to be.

http://products.amd.com

http://products.amd.com/en-us/search...ktopProcessors

HTH,
Paul
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Old September 10th 15, 05:09 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

Weird, why does this benchmark site say 4 cores for this AMD processor ?!

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geek...&q=AMD+FX-9590

Isn't it supposed to be 8 ?!?

I can vaguely remember reading something about bad core detection or
something.

Or is something else going on here ?

Is this actually AMD's hyperthreading and AMD lying ?

Hmmm...

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Old September 10th 15, 05:11 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

Ohoh I think I just caught AMD lying their filthy fat asses off:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...t-Core&id=2014

This benchmark site says: "number of cores 4" (2 logical cores per physical)

AMD FX-9590 Eight-Core
Average CPU Mark
Description: Socket: AM3+, Clockspeed: 4.7 GHz, Turbo Speed: 5.0 GHz,
No of Cores: 4 (2 logical cores per physical), Max TDP: 220 W


Now look what AMD says on their site:

http://shop.amd.com/en-us/components...ecxOffUS100389

"AMD FX 8-Core Black Edition FX-8370E (ecx-Off-US-100389)
a.. Manufacturer: AMD
b.. Processor Line: AMD FX 8-Core Black Edition2
c.. Processor Model: FX-8370E
d.. Cores: 8
e.. Frequency: 3300
f.. Socket: AM3+
g.. L2 Cache: 8192
h.. Wattage: 95
"

Nowhere does it say that these are not true 8 physical cores only 4 true
physical cores.

There better be a damn fine explanation for this, otherwise I am definetly
not going to do bussiness with a company which lies about such a MAJOR BIG
DETAIL/NUMBER/FACT/VALUE/IMPORTANCY =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Old September 10th 15, 05:18 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

Haha... I just noticed different model numbers.

Will have to try this again, but this time make sure, same model numbers
LOL.

Well **** their confusion lol.

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Old September 10th 15, 05:20 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

WTF same ****:

https://browser.primatelabs.com/geek...&q=AMD+FX+8370

Only 4 cores reported by benchmark ?!?

WTF is going on here ?!

Have review sites been fooled:

Example:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Old September 10th 15, 05:23 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Youtube nerd claim: intel 4 core + 4 fake/hyper cores, beats AMD 6 core ?

This answers the question a bit:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answer...cores-cpu.html

Not too happy about it though.

This confusion... and possible floating point bottleneck kinda sucks.

Bye,
Skybuck.

 




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