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"Johannes H Andersen" wrote
in message news:410AF477.32FAE761@nsuvuooiaiosizefitterwiuove swernuaz.com... JK wrote: The dual channel of the P4 is relatively slow though since the memory controller is not on the chip. Look at the actual benchmarks comparing the two. The article has benchmarks for both socket 754 and socket 939 Athlon 64 chips. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2065&p=1 So? The dual channel memory 2xDDR400 for the P4 matches the fsb = 800 MHz, this is the optimal situation. The P4 is not 800 fsb, it's 200 It works something like the Athlon Xp, but does it twice. To better explain this, here's an email I got from AMD Hello Dennis, Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center. The Athlon XP has a Front Side Bus (FSB) that operates at either 266, 333, or 400Mhz. While the physical signal is 133, 166, or 200Mhz, data is transferred on both the rising and falling edges of the clock signal. This effectively doubles the data throughput. This is similar to the operation of DDR memory and 2X AGP. Motherboards that support a 400, 333, 266, and 200MHz front-side bus (FSB) will typically have a factory-default FSB setting of 200MHz (100MHz system clock) to protect 200MHz FSB processors from accidentally being overclocked. If an Athlon XP processor, which supports a 400, 333 or 266MHz FSB, is installed on a motherboard that is configured to operate the FSB at 200MHz, it will operate at a lower frequency. This is a result of the processor's multiplier. The function of the multiplier is to multiply the bus frequency to derive the processor operating frequency. The actual setting of the FSB may be controlled by the motherboard BIOS or by a hardware jumper on the motherboard itself. Please consult your motherboard manufacturer directly to determine how to correctly set the FSB for your motherboard. Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me. Regards, Jesus Customer Support Analyst AMD TSC We welcome your feedback and suggestions to help us improve our services to you. To provide this information to us, we ask that you please click on this link, or copy/paste into your browser, and complete our short survey. Thanks, in advance, for your comments. Click here (link http://asksurvey.amd.com/servicesoft...@comc ast.net). P.S. Please visit our online technical support tools, Ask AMD (http://ask.amd.com) and our Processor Support Forums (http://forums.amd.com). Ask AMD is our online knowledgebase that contains many solutions to common questions. Our Processor Support Forums are an online community where users can assist each other with many different issues. There's a good chance these tools can help answer your next question! Original Message Follows: ------------------------ Form Message Processor Type: Athlon XP Escalated From: startup Processor Model: 2200+ Knowledge Base: Processor Email Address: Full Name: Dennis E Strausser Jr Message Body: (FSB) & Bus Speed. If a CPU has a FSB of 133, that would mean the Bus Speed is 266? So like My 2200+ I have is 266 Bus Speed, and 133 (FSB)? And a 2800+ would be 166 FSB (166.5)? What I need is a link if I'm right, if I'm wrong, I still want that link. I was trying to tell some1 that I thought that's the way it works, and he said I'm wrong. So I'm sure you guys can tell me, after all, they are your CPU's 2200+? 2600 @ 2.17 GHz,,, But you didn't need to know I'm Overclocking one of your CPU's. Denny. :-) Subject: FSB & Bus Speed User Type: Reseller/System Builder Knowledge Job Ticket: 0000000000169818213:5486 Knowledge Session Log URL: http://139.95.253.213:80/SRVS/CGI-BI...g,e=0000000000 169818213,K=5486 Location: USA/Canada What this all means? I'll break it down. the rising and falling edges of the clock signal are still working for the most part, the same way as an amd. But. 200 x 200 rising and falling edges of the clock signal. 200 x 200 rising and falling edges of the clock signal. Don't take my word for it, this is just a guess. But it does seem like a good guess to say that's how it's Hyperthreading works. Back when it was just Hyperpipline, I think it helped to keep the cpu running smooth. And keep the bottle neck as low as possible. If anyone has more input on this, or if I'm wrong, correct me. thx.. Denny. :-) |
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