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Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.
Heeeelllllooooooooooo,
Intel's Tick-Tock "strategy" is starting to look more and more like a "Flip-Flop" strategy, (in case you didn't get the joke: producing mostly "flops" / failures LOL.) All kinds of problems are popping up with their processors. Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others. The low production volume of Skylake processors could be an indication that these are "beta" processors Though perhaps the volume is higher than "webstores" report. Perhaps a more evolutionary approach is necessary where much much much more generations are generated to fix problems/bugs faster. Bye, Skybuck. |
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Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.
On 1/21/2016 4:04 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
The low production volume of Skylake processors could be an indication that these are "beta" processors Though perhaps the volume is higher than "webstores" report. Perhaps a more evolutionary approach is necessary where much much much more generations are generated to fix problems/bugs faster. IBM is after 7nm ... -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora release 23) Linux 4.3.3-300.fc23.x86_64 ^ ^ 04:06:01 up 1 day 5:41 0 users load average: 1.00 1.01 1.05 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.
On 2016-01-20 15:04, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others. This is the same Prime95 bug; apparently disabling HyperT fixes the problem, but a BIOS update will fix it too. I looked on Google for "Skylake Bug Fix Performance" to see if someone had tested to see if the fix reduces performance of some instructions, but found nothing... Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/Planetary-Society-+- oO-( )-Oo PRIME DIRECTIVE MY A**! Phasers on maximum! |
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Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.
B00ze wrote:
On 2016-01-20 15:04, Skybuck Flying wrote: Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others. This is the same Prime95 bug; apparently disabling HyperT fixes the problem, but a BIOS update will fix it too. I looked on Google for "Skylake Bug Fix Performance" to see if someone had tested to see if the fix reduces performance of some instructions, but found nothing... Regards, For the previous bug, you can see what their response was. I hadn't even heard about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_TSX "which resulted in disabling the TSX feature on affected CPUs via a microcode update" Paul |
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Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.
On 2016-01-20 23:52, Paul wrote:
B00ze wrote: On 2016-01-20 15:04, Skybuck Flying wrote: Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others. This is the same Prime95 bug; apparently disabling HyperT fixes the problem, but a BIOS update will fix it too. I looked on Google for "Skylake Bug Fix Performance" to see if someone had tested to see if the fix reduces performance of some instructions, but found nothing... Regards, For the previous bug, you can see what their response was. I hadn't even heard about this. Nope, me neither, but I don't think I run software that uses TSX (maybe renderers use it? I don't really run databases). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_TSX "which resulted in disabling the TSX feature on affected CPUs via a microcode update" Paul Lol, that's the Microsoft fix for everything; surprise surprise Intel does it too. There's also this: "Haswell processors below 45xx as well as R-series and K-series (with unlocked multiplier) SKUs do not support TSX" -- So the good CPUs (K) don't have it. Intel does this with a few other features; I never understood the logic... Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/Planetary-Society-+- oO-( )-Oo Three stages of sex: Tri-weekly, Try weekly, Try weakly. |
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Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 4:17:06 AM UTC+8, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
IBM is after 7nm ... I think they are pushing **** uphill. Intel has low yields on 10 nm. AMD and Nvidia are finding 10 nm difficult. |
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Beyond silicon: IBM unveils world’s first 7nm chip
On 1/24/2016 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 4:17:06 AM UTC+8, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: IBM is after 7nm ... I think they are pushing **** uphill. Intel has low yields on 10 nm. AMD and Nvidia are finding 10 nm difficult. It's still experimental! Read it yourself, Your Poi! Beyond silicon: IBM unveils world’s first 7nm chip http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/...eyond-silicon/ |
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