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Frank the Revolutionary
I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo
Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. Somehow I fully expected that users would support the need for such a useful size prints that is regularly supplied by vendors like Costco. Instead, like the days of Frankenstein, instead of the villagers with pitchforks, clubs and torches using the modern equivilent- newsgroups to pound the Revolutionary into the ground. Do like the rest of us, cut down larger sheets! Get a life and live within 4:5 ratio paper! Crop even though you don't want to just like the rest of us! Fool- who are you to be asking for 8 x12? If paper manufacturers aren't going to change for you- live with it! |
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Frank the Pain in the Arse
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message ... I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. **** OFF |
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Roy G's contribution to this newsgroup
"Roy G" wrote in message ... "Frank Arthur" wrote in message ... I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. **** OFF Well Roy G. You've made your contribution to this newsgroup today. |
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Roy G's contribution to this newsgroup
"Frank Arthur" wrote in message ... "Roy G" wrote in message ... "Frank Arthur" wrote in message ... I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. **** OFF Well Roy G. You've made your contribution to this newsgroup today. There is little point in continuing to present reasonable arguments to you. I, and many others, have done so. You just dismiss all of them, you never even consider that you might just be wrong. Are you really surprised that I have now lowered my standards to something which you might understand. **** OFF. |
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Frank the Revolutionary
I don't think anyone is wishing to flog, lynch or burn you at the stake.
I do think that many people have tried to offer you solutions for the time being, all of which you have rejected out of hand. I don't think anyone minds, and some support the idea of other paper sizes. The problem is that with the many different and changing aspect ratios being offered in digital technologies (It is much easier to change sensor ratios from a manufacturing approach, than that of film formats), and most digital cameras today offer several "standard" ratios to select from, and if you look into sensor chip sizes, you'll find they vary considerably not only in digicams but even in DSLRs. So, even assuming everyone wanted to shoot and print at the highest form ratio their camera provided, their still would not be an agreement. As a result, there really is no standard anymore. Considering the 135 film format, which became the most accepted standard in the industry in terms of total sales of film (35mm was introduced in 1934) and that still never inspired the paper industry to change the standard ratio, hoping to force change now, when the digital sensor format is in so much flux, may be a bit overly hopeful. Also, keep in mind that inkjet printers are used for many non-photographic purposes, from signs, to brochures, to graphic art and composite images, and reproduction of other art forms, and the paper formats offered have been available in those markets for literally centuries. Art Art Frank Arthur wrote: I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. Somehow I fully expected that users would support the need for such a useful size prints that is regularly supplied by vendors like Costco. Instead, like the days of Frankenstein, instead of the villagers with pitchforks, clubs and torches using the modern equivilent- newsgroups to pound the Revolutionary into the ground. Do like the rest of us, cut down larger sheets! Get a life and live within 4:5 ratio paper! Crop even though you don't want to just like the rest of us! Fool- who are you to be asking for 8 x12? If paper manufacturers aren't going to change for you- live with it! |
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Frank the Pain in the Arse
Roy G is actually a pretty nice person and quite knowledgeable. He is,
however, a grumpy old Scotsman or, as we say here in the States, a grouchy old fart. Maybe he uses up his limited supply of tact on his guests at his bed and breakfast. Remember, he eats haggis on a regular basis. That's enough to make anyone bitchy. -- Gator Bait Yeap, Bait Gator is correct. On very rare occasions, Roy Gibson adds a minor word of wisdom to this newsgroup. Unfortunately, when one considers the massive amount of worthless and odorous **** and vinegar he sprays over most everything else, what he leaves behind makes those few bits of any worth of little value in the bigger picture. He shows little tolerance, and no compassion and I expect if he was a guest at his own bed and breakfast, he'd find him so detrimental to the other guest that he'd kick himself out and ask him never to return. I actually bothered to look over Roy's contributions to this newsgroup over the last few months, and the vast majority was worthless bitching, complaining and belittling of the intellect of others, which, and I realize this is only my opinion, doesn't even come close to the value he's "added" here. Art Roy G wrote: "Frank Arthur" wrote in message ... I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. **** OFF |
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Frank the Pain in the Arse
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:%Nt4i.203042$DE1.98794@pd7urf2no... Roy G is actually a pretty nice person and quite knowledgeable. He is, however, a grumpy old Scotsman or, as we say here in the States, a grouchy old fart. Maybe he uses up his limited supply of tact on his guests at his bed and breakfast. Remember, he eats haggis on a regular basis. That's enough to make anyone bitchy. -- Gator Bait Yeap, Bait Gator is correct. On very rare occasions, Roy Gibson adds a minor word of wisdom to this newsgroup. Unfortunately, when one considers the massive amount of worthless and odorous **** and vinegar he sprays over most everything else, what he leaves behind makes those few bits of any worth of little value in the bigger picture. He shows little tolerance, and no compassion and I expect if he was a guest at his own bed and breakfast, he'd find him so detrimental to the other guest that he'd kick himself out and ask him never to return. I actually bothered to look over Roy's contributions to this newsgroup over the last few months, and the vast majority was worthless bitching, complaining and belittling of the intellect of others, which, and I realize this is only my opinion, doesn't even come close to the value he's "added" here. Art Roy G wrote: "Frank Arthur" wrote in message ... I never thought of myself as a Revolutionary for seeking Epson or HP Photo Paper in 8 x 12 size to match the 2:3 ratio of 35mm film cameras and most Digital Cameras in use today. Hi Art Your contributions to this group are very important. I am sorry if I have offended you. I do have little tolerance for people who do not listen to reasonable arguments, and can, fairly quickly, get a bit cutting or rude. That is just the way I am. I do get on with Gaitor Bill, (aka Bill in Lake Charles), even though we do throw rather a lot of insults at one another. However I think you must just have read my 2 word response to the OP, starting yet another thread on the same old subject. I explain why, just a bit more, in my response after that one. Haggis is a very tasty and healthy food. Over the 17 years I have been B & B hosting there have really only been about 50 people that I would not have back as guests, and six I have thrown out. That 6 have also been reported to the Police. We do have rather a lot of regulars, but we are now in the process of selling up and retiring, so my short fuse might, hopefully, get a bit longer, and I might have more time for really important things like taking and making photographs. Roy G |
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