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Inspiron 8200 - Bad battery or Laptop?
Recently I thought the batteries in my laptop had died as they simply
will not hold a charge. I resigned myself to using it on AC power rather than costly battery replacement (BTW...are there 3rd party batteries for this laptop rathen than OEM Dell?). Now I find that with the batteries inserted the power pack will die at boot up. I can see the green LED on the power pack adapter fade out, the internal battery indicator on the laptop turns warning orange, and the laptop dies due to power failure. If I remove the batteries (and I also must remove the power cable, then plug it back in for the green LED to re-light), and boot with AC power only (no batteries installed) it comes up fine. So...are the batteries shorted and killing the system, or is it possible the power circuit has a problem causing this apparent short-out? TIA |
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Does the 8200 have dual batteries? One Battery? One battery and a floppy
drive in second slot? I had same problem with my 8200 two years ago. I had dual batteries and also have a floppy drive that plugs into one batterty slot (can either use both batteries or one battery/floppy drive). With both batteries (with or without AC power) my 8200 would also die at bootup. Took both batteries out and could boot on AC power. On the rear of the batteries are "check light" (I don't know what Dell calls them) that allow you to determine the state of the batteries. Turned out one of the batteries was dead, unchargable, stick it in the recycle bin, I mean Dead. As long as that particular battery was inserted the 8200 would not boot. Could still boot with the good battery in one slot and the floopy drive in the other (would not boot with just one battery and an empty slot). The only way around it was to use the good battery in one slot and the floppy drive in the second slot. Would not boot with just one battery (good or bad) and empty slot. Check the 'health' of your battery by looking at the lights on the rear of the battery. This should be explained in your owner's manual, otherwise search the Dell site on how to do this. Maybe someone can come up with a source other than Dell for the battery. But if you only have one battery, I'm afraid you are going to have to buy another or settle for AC power. That's all I know from experience. don "Rivergoat" wrote in message ... Recently I thought the batteries in my laptop had died as they simply will not hold a charge. I resigned myself to using it on AC power rather than costly battery replacement (BTW...are there 3rd party batteries for this laptop rathen than OEM Dell?). Now I find that with the batteries inserted the power pack will die at boot up. I can see the green LED on the power pack adapter fade out, the internal battery indicator on the laptop turns warning orange, and the laptop dies due to power failure. If I remove the batteries (and I also must remove the power cable, then plug it back in for the green LED to re-light), and boot with AC power only (no batteries installed) it comes up fine. So...are the batteries shorted and killing the system, or is it possible the power circuit has a problem causing this apparent short-out? TIA |
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"Rivergoat" wrote in message ... (BTW...are there 3rd party batteries for this laptop rathen than OEM Dell?). TIA Never used these guys myself. Have seen them recommended by folks who have. http://www.pacificbattery.com/dell.html -- D I was just trying to help. Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or advice herein. No warranty is expressed or implied. Your mileage may vary. See store for details. Remove shoes to E-mail. |
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Its not the battery, its the charger unit on the systemboard thats killing
the Ac battery you need a new systemboard "HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in message ... "Rivergoat" wrote in message ... (BTW...are there 3rd party batteries for this laptop rathen than OEM Dell?). TIA Never used these guys myself. Have seen them recommended by folks who have. http://www.pacificbattery.com/dell.html -- D I was just trying to help. Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or advice herein. No warranty is expressed or implied. Your mileage may vary. See store for details. Remove shoes to E-mail. |
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:14:46 -0500, "don"
wrote: Does the 8200 have dual batteries? One Battery? One battery and a floppy drive in second slot? snip Thanks for the info. I should have added....it has dual batteries, no floppy drive as I've never really needed one (especially with the memory sticks nowadays!). I've moved a few times over the past few years...haven't a clue where my manual is, so I'll search the Dell site...and check those status lights. |
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PS....
I checked the batteries themselves a moment ago. Never realized there were supposed to be status lights as you mentioned. There are, of course, none on either battery...they be dead as far as I can tell. But as another poster said..."the system board needs replacing." That's pretty extreme, I can only imagine what that would cost. I'd rather spend the money on a new, much more lightweight laptop! But I'm hoping it's more of a battery issue than a system board! In the meantime I can take it to hot spots so long as I pull out both batteries and use AC exclusively. I did look at that after market battery site one suggested, that's a possible alternative for new batteries. Hmmmm, dual batteries would set me back $200....and what if that doesn't fix the problem???? Eeek. |
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I have to agree. A situation like this usually requires a motherboard
replacement or an external charger. Battery chargers frequently go bad in laptops. I cannot verify that this method works, but if others wish to save their laptop's battery charger, try keeping the battery out and only using AC power unless you wish to go someplace remote. I believe that battery chargers frequently go bad due to the constant trickle charge demand that the batteries require in order to maintain a fully charged status. But that's mostly an opinion, not a fact backed up by experiements. YMMV Dan On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:40:05 +0100, "Fixer" wrote: Its not the battery, its the charger unit on the systemboard thats killing the Ac battery you need a new systemboard |
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Unlike the newer Dells, which have the charge circuitry on the
mainboard, this one does not. Try parts-people.com - the DC charger board is probably a $30-40 part (vs. several hundred for a mainboard). Fixer wrote: Its not the battery, its the charger unit on the systemboard thats killing the Ac battery you need a new systemboard |
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I have an 8200 and it's battery died after about the first year. I had
similar symptoms to what you describe. I purchased a replacement from Dell which came with a BIOS update that supposedly fixed something with the charging routine, and I seem to get better life out of the new battery. Beware of aftermarket cheap laptop batteries -- for a different laptop, I bought a "reconditioned" one on Ebay and it was DOA. I have just resigned myself to the fact that these laptop batteries will need to be replaced every 18 months or so. That's why Dell only warrantees them for a year, LOL. -- Paul "Rivergoat" wrote in message ... Recently I thought the batteries in my laptop had died as they simply will not hold a charge. I resigned myself to using it on AC power rather than costly battery replacement (BTW...are there 3rd party batteries for this laptop rathen than OEM Dell?). Now I find that with the batteries inserted the power pack will die at boot up. I can see the green LED on the power pack adapter fade out, the internal battery indicator on the laptop turns warning orange, and the laptop dies due to power failure. If I remove the batteries (and I also must remove the power cable, then plug it back in for the green LED to re-light), and boot with AC power only (no batteries installed) it comes up fine. So...are the batteries shorted and killing the system, or is it possible the power circuit has a problem causing this apparent short-out? TIA |
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