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New mobo
My main machine is quite ancient and I've decided up finally break down
and upgrade. My present mobo has a dual core CPU and 6gigs of RAM. In theory the board supports 8gigs of RAM but in actuality I cannot get it to work reliably with more than 6gigs. It was so old it did not even have USB-3 so the mobo must be ten years old or more. My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. Reading the manual I see that my two, 2 gig RAM sticks are not supported. (it requires more than that) Decided to order two 8Ggig RAM sticks and max it out at 16gigs. This thing better work once I get the RAM |
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On 3/28/2017 1:31 PM, philo wrote:
My main machine is quite ancient and I've decided up finally break down and upgrade. My present mobo has a dual core CPU and 6gigs of RAM. In theory the board supports 8gigs of RAM but in actuality I cannot get it to work reliably with more than 6gigs. It was so old it did not even have USB-3 so the mobo must be ten years old or more. My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. Reading the manual I see that my two, 2 gig RAM sticks are not supported. (it requires more than that) Decided to order two 8Ggig RAM sticks and max it out at 16gigs. This thing better work once I get the RAM What sort of MOBO did you get that still uses DDR3? I thought everything was DDR4 now. In general, it seems that modern chipsets are less touchy about what memory they will work with. Or maybe it is the memory interface too. My last build has an Intel H170 chipset and the original build had 16gB. For some inexplicable reason I decided upgrade to 32gB by installing two more sticks. In the old days that would have been questionable but the new memory integrated perfectly and worked first time. Of course there is sill no possible reason for me to have 32gB but at least all of the slots are full so I won't be tempted further. BTW, USB3 is not so old as you think. The actual standard was announced in 2008 but there were not really many products using it until 2010 IIRC. It was a year after before it to become ubiquitous on MOBOs. Pretty much the same timing for SATA-3. |
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On 03/28/2017 02:38 PM, John McGaw wrote:
On 3/28/2017 1:31 PM, philo wrote: My main machine is quite ancient and I've decided up finally break down and upgrade. My present mobo has a dual core CPU and 6gigs of RAM. In theory the board supports 8gigs of RAM but in actuality I cannot get it to work reliably with more than 6gigs. It was so old it did not even have USB-3 so the mobo must be ten years old or more. My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. Reading the manual I see that my two, 2 gig RAM sticks are not supported. (it requires more than that) Decided to order two 8Ggig RAM sticks and max it out at 16gigs. This thing better work once I get the RAM What sort of MOBO did you get that still uses DDR3? I thought everything was DDR4 now. In general, it seems that modern chipsets are less touchy about what memory they will work with. Or maybe it is the memory interface too. My last build has an Intel H170 chipset and the original build had 16gB. For some inexplicable reason I decided upgrade to 32gB by installing two more sticks. In the old days that would have been questionable but the new memory integrated perfectly and worked first time. Of course there is sill no possible reason for me to have 32gB but at least all of the slots are full so I won't be tempted further. BTW, USB3 is not so old as you think. The actual standard was announced in 2008 but there were not really many products using it until 2010 IIRC. It was a year after before it to become ubiquitous on MOBOs. Pretty much the same timing for SATA-3. Yes....DDR4 is the standard now , I just bought a low priced mobo/cpu combo. The last 3 or 4 machines I've built for other people used them and all worked out fine. Considering my present RAM is 800 mhz DDR-2 the new machine will have 1600 mhz RAM and will be plenty good. Truth is my old machine is working just fine, but I just needed another project |
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philo wrote:
My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul |
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On 3/28/2017 11:17 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote: My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul Hmmm. If it is old enough to be using DDR-3 then, unless it happens to be a E5 Xeon server board with four processors and 32 cores or something similar, drooling might not apply. I get the feeling that the OP's apparent parsimony might not allow such exotica. ;-) |
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John McGaw wrote:
On 3/28/2017 11:17 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul Hmmm. If it is old enough to be using DDR-3 then, unless it happens to be a E5 Xeon server board with four processors and 32 cores or something similar, drooling might not apply. I get the feeling that the OP's apparent parsimony might not allow such exotica. ;-) It's a hardware group. And I like stories about hardware. I have a $65 Asrock motherboard that's a champ. It is the lowest power motherboard in the house. It has both PCI Express and AGP video slots. If I ever need to build a server at some point, that old thing is going to be my server motherboard. Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it cannot serve some narrowly defined function. And that one is LGA775, running a dual core processor (with 36W power dissipation doing Prime95). It happens to use DDR2, but the RAM error rate seems to be zero in the testing I've done. The board is better than any of my DDR400 stuff (those will throw the occasional error). Paul |
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On 3/29/2017 11:48 AM, Paul wrote:
John McGaw wrote: On 3/28/2017 11:17 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul Hmmm. If it is old enough to be using DDR-3 then, unless it happens to be a E5 Xeon server board with four processors and 32 cores or something similar, drooling might not apply. I get the feeling that the OP's apparent parsimony might not allow such exotica. ;-) It's a hardware group. And I like stories about hardware. I have a $65 Asrock motherboard that's a champ. It is the lowest power motherboard in the house. It has both PCI Express and AGP video slots. If I ever need to build a server at some point, that old thing is going to be my server motherboard. Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it cannot serve some narrowly defined function. And that one is LGA775, running a dual core processor (with 36W power dissipation doing Prime95). It happens to use DDR2, but the RAM error rate seems to be zero in the testing I've done. The board is better than any of my DDR400 stuff (those will throw the occasional error). Paul Nothing wrong with cheap(ish) hardware in its place. When I rebuilt my home server back in 2014(?) it wound up choosing an ASUS P8B75-M MB and i3-3240 processor -- more than enough horsepower to run the WHS sofware and still have a couple of threads left over to run the BOINC client. Actually I picked that board specifically because it was the cheapest MB I could find that had six SATA ports to support the required drives without forcing me to use a card for for additional ports as the previous system needed. |
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On 03/28/2017 10:17 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote: My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul No, it's a cheap mobo /cpu combo AsRock 53455M Plus 16G RAM I bought it because I just felt like building a new machine, but my old one is still OK |
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On 03/29/2017 10:23 AM, John McGaw wrote:
On 3/28/2017 11:17 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul Hmmm. If it is old enough to be using DDR-3 then, unless it happens to be a E5 Xeon server board with four processors and 32 cores or something similar, drooling might not apply. I get the feeling that the OP's apparent parsimony might not allow such exotica. ;-) I bought it because it's cheap yep still easily twice as good as the antique I am now using |
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On 03/29/2017 10:48 AM, Paul wrote:
John McGaw wrote: On 3/28/2017 11:17 PM, Paul wrote: philo wrote: My new mobo arrived and I put in some DDR-3 I already had but the machine would not boot. So what did you buy ? What motherboard and CPU ? It's a hardware group. Is the new system drool-worthy ? :-) Paul Hmmm. If it is old enough to be using DDR-3 then, unless it happens to be a E5 Xeon server board with four processors and 32 cores or something similar, drooling might not apply. I get the feeling that the OP's apparent parsimony might not allow such exotica. ;-) It's a hardware group. And I like stories about hardware. I have a $65 Asrock motherboard that's a champ. It is the lowest power motherboard in the house. It has both PCI Express and AGP video slots. If I ever need to build a server at some point, that old thing is going to be my server motherboard. Just because it's cheap, doesn't mean it cannot serve some narrowly defined function. And that one is LGA775, running a dual core processor (with 36W power dissipation doing Prime95). It happens to use DDR2, but the RAM error rate seems to be zero in the testing I've done. The board is better than any of my DDR400 stuff (those will throw the occasional error). Paul Yep, the last few machine I built used those mobo/ cpu combos work great and no problems. Total time to build machine (not including loading the OS) was about 15 minutes. |
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