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Old February 6th 13, 09:19 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?

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Old February 6th 13, 09:45 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

"Metspitzer" wrote in message
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I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?

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The cable ends are all the same for connection. However, I have seen SATA
cables listed to carry data at higher and lower speeds. Check Newegg.com out
to compare one variety of cable to another.

As for SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives they each have a distinct through put
speed before getting to the cable itself.

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Old February 6th 13, 10:35 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Feb 6, 3:19 pm, Metspitzer wrote:
I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?


Depends on the designer...

Designers use a number of techniques to reduce the undesirable effects
of [noise in -fl] such unintentional coupling. One such technique used
in SATA links is differential signaling. This is an enhancement over
PATA, which uses single-ended signaling. The use of fully shielded
twin-ax conductors, with multiple ground connections, for each
differential pair improves isolation between the channels and reduces
the chances of lost data in difficult electrical environments.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...winAxCable.jpg

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Old February 6th 13, 11:10 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Loren Pechtel[_2_]
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?


Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
are the same, though.
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Old February 6th 13, 11:24 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:10:10 -0800, Loren Pechtel
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?


Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
are the same, though.


I have red, gray, black and blue SATA cables? How would you know?
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Old February 6th 13, 11:53 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:10:10 -0800, Loren Pechtel
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?


Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
are the same, though.


I have red, gray, black and blue SATA cables? How would you know?


I see that some of them are marked. The oldest cables I have are red.
They are marked 26AWG. I am guessing they are SATA 2. The newest
cables I have are blue. They are also marked 26AWG, but they are also
marked 6Gbps/3Gbs.

It is a shame. The red cable is the one I really wanted to use
because it is 24 inches long. I already know, longer is not better
when you are talking about computer cables.



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Old February 7th 13, 02:00 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Charlie Hoffpauir
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:53:34 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:10:10 -0800, Loren Pechtel
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?

Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
are the same, though.


I have red, gray, black and blue SATA cables? How would you know?


I see that some of them are marked. The oldest cables I have are red.
They are marked 26AWG. I am guessing they are SATA 2. The newest
cables I have are blue. They are also marked 26AWG, but they are also
marked 6Gbps/3Gbs.

It is a shame. The red cable is the one I really wanted to use
because it is 24 inches long. I already know, longer is not better
when you are talking about computer cables.


I usually buy all my cables of any type from Monoprice, so I chaecked
their web site for SATA cables, and it seems they have SATA cables
rated or 6 Gbps in red, blue and black (plus other colors) in various
lengths, up to 36 inches. Check out:
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Old February 7th 13, 02:02 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Charlie Hoffpauir
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:00:06 -0600, Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:53:34 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:10:10 -0800, Loren Pechtel
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?

Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
are the same, though.

I have red, gray, black and blue SATA cables? How would you know?


I see that some of them are marked. The oldest cables I have are red.
They are marked 26AWG. I am guessing they are SATA 2. The newest
cables I have are blue. They are also marked 26AWG, but they are also
marked 6Gbps/3Gbs.

It is a shame. The red cable is the one I really wanted to use
because it is 24 inches long. I already know, longer is not better
when you are talking about computer cables.


I usually buy all my cables of any type from Monoprice, so I chaecked
their web site for SATA cables, and it seems they have SATA cables
rated or 6 Gbps in red, blue and black (plus other colors) in various
lengths, up to 36 inches. Check out:


Oops, sent that by mistake before finishing. URL is

http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...rd=sata+cables
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Old February 7th 13, 08:04 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Loren Pechtel[_2_]
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:53:34 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:10:10 -0800, Loren Pechtel
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:19:57 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?

Backwards compatible, not necessarily forward-compatible. An
el-cheapo SATA2 might not be good enough to handle SATA3. The plugs
are the same, though.


I have red, gray, black and blue SATA cables? How would you know?


I see that some of them are marked. The oldest cables I have are red.
They are marked 26AWG. I am guessing they are SATA 2. The newest
cables I have are blue. They are also marked 26AWG, but they are also
marked 6Gbps/3Gbs.


26AWG is the wire size. That says very little about how fast they can
work. The 6gbs/3gbs marking is a clear indication that that's a SATA3
cable.
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Old February 7th 13, 12:58 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
TVeblen
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Default Are all SATA cables the same?

On 2/6/2013 3:19 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I know there are SATA2 and SATA3 SSD drives. Are the cables
different?


The specification for the CABLE in SATA2 and SATA3 are the same.

The one new difference is positive locking clamps on the connectors of
new cables.

The issue of good quality vs poor quality cable continues from SATA2.
While the wires are all 26g, the quality of the copper and the amount of
shielding are different from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Either Maximum PC or Tom's Hardware did a test of SATA cables about a
year back to see if there was any difference in performance between
regular SATA cables and "SATA3" cables. They even jerry-rigged a 24 ft
long cable and tested that to. The result: unless you are splitting
hairs - not much.

 




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