nVidia has just released Vista beta driver 101.41 ( March 2 )

See:-

http://www.nvidia.com/object/vista_d...ws_030207.html

for further details.

John Lewis


"I need my delusions of grandure" *johns* 12-Feb-2007

I have this problem with every driver beta or whql after 97.48.When playing
games my system hangs and needs rebooting.I have Asus 7800gtx card and core2
duo 6700.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks
George
"John Lewis" wrote in message
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See:-

http://www.nvidia.com/object/vista_d...ws_030207.html

for further details.

John Lewis


"I need my delusions of grandure" *johns* 12-Feb-2007

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:07:17 +0200, "George" wrote:

I have this problem with every driver beta or whql after 97.48.When playing
games my system hangs and needs rebooting.I have Asus 7800gtx card and core2
duo 6700.
Any suggestions ?

I have X2 4400+ (overclocked) and single 7800GTX, no problem such as
yours. Currently using driver 100.65.

Areas to examine, not necessarily in order:-

Overclocking anything ? Non-standard memory timing ? Reset ALL to
default, immediately....

You might just have a memory problem. Do you notice ANY other oddities
about your machine behavior ? Memtest or Prime 95 to weed out
core-system or memory problems. I fully check my systems by setting up
multiple concurrent instances of Prime95 in configurations that fully
saturate all the CPU cores and all resident memory. Zero failures
after at least 12 hours of continuous running is my pass-criterion.

Marginal power supply ? How much current do you have available on
+12V? A very common symptom is crashes during 3D games. Try
downclocking your processor and/or your graphics card to relieve the
peak current on +12V. If you get better stability the most likely
culprit is the power-supply. Assuming that you were not overclocking
anything to begin with of course !

You might have a corrupted driver install. Maybe use DriverCleaner to
fully clean out any driver residue. However, read the DC instructions
very carefully !


Thanks
George
"John Lewis" wrote in message
...
See:-

http://www.nvidia.com/object/vista_d...ws_030207.html

for further details.

John Lewis


"I need my delusions of grandure" *johns* 12-Feb-2007

I note that nVidia haven't updated drivers for pre 7***-series cards (for
example, 6800 GS/GT) on XP since Nov 1st. Was that the last we 6800 owners
can expect?

Also, since there are now separate version of the drivers for 6***, 7*** and
8***, should they be still calling them "unified"?

P.

--
-pm

http://oceanclub.blogspot.com

"When you look in the mirror and despair and none of your
clothes seem appropriate, relax, put the kettle on. It might suit
you."

Well, it sure is Monday morning. I installed the
101.41 driver with no problems. The previous Vista
drivers 100.59 and 100.65 refused to install at all
.... error "No compatible hardware found". Couple
hours on the phone to nVidia, and at first they
claimed I must have on-board VGA that was
interfering. but there is no on-board VGA in this
test box ( Dell 9150 with 7900GS ). I was stuck
with the Microsoft certified driver that has no
OpenGL support. The latest driver, at least seems
to be able to find its ass with both hands, but
still there seems to be no OpenGL support. I
got the same error message from MOHAA and
AutoCAD .. "no OpenGL .. exiting". I don't really
blame nVidia for this. Vista is truly a piece of
crap. It is nothing but a beta, and at least I'm
getting to hack it for a hobby. I think the nVidia
"OpenGL ICD" is nothing but a software layer
that is translating OpenGL calls to D3D. There's
no way in hell nVidia restored 800 meg worth
of OpenGL SDK to the Vista OS. So looks
like the Engineering Industry is going to take
a great big hit right in the pocketbook if they
move to Vista , and then have to pay AutoCAD,
etc for re-engineering their apps. As for MOHAA,
I really like the MOH series, and I'm sticking
with XP. Microsoft can take Vista and put it
up their conniving butts for another 10 years.

Oh yeah :-) AutoCAD reports that it is running
at 5 frames per second under Vista. Ha ! That
is your OpenGL translation to D3D.

No wonder Crysis has been delayed almost
a year. Nobody is that stupid.

johns

I have 41 6800GS cards in my AutoCAD labs :-)
And the "powers that be" are getting ready to
shove Vista down my throat. Don't feel like the
Lone Ranger .. my 7900s don't work under Vista
either. My best tests say stay with the 8xx
drivers for both under XP. Coolbits works ...
.... custom resolutions work. Nothing much
works under Vista without a lot of tweaking.
Shaders still don't work, so games run fine
but there is very little in the way of shadows.
No OpenGL ... just a translation layer that
is pig slow.

johns

Also, this drivers default fan speed is 40% or more.
That is crazy making. I downloaded nVidia nTune
5.5, which runs under Vista, and I could set my
fan speed down while monitoring the GPU temp.
I dropped it to 27% with only 1 degree rise, and
now my fan is quiet.

johns

On 5 Mar 2007 10:18:46 -0800, "johns" wrote:

Well, it sure is Monday morning. I installed the
101.41 driver with no problems. The previous Vista
drivers 100.59 and 100.65 refused to install at all
... error "No compatible hardware found". Couple
hours on the phone to nVidia, and at first they
claimed I must have on-board VGA that was
interfering. but there is no on-board VGA in this
test box ( Dell 9150 with 7900GS ). I was stuck
with the Microsoft certified driver that has no
OpenGL support. The latest driver, at least seems
to be able to find its ass with both hands, but
still there seems to be no OpenGL support. I
got the same error message from MOHAA and
AutoCAD .. "no OpenGL .. exiting". I don't really
blame nVidia for this. Vista is truly a piece of
crap. It is nothing but a beta, and at least I'm
getting to hack it for a hobby. I think the nVidia
"OpenGL ICD" is nothing but a software layer
that is translating OpenGL calls to D3D. There's
no way in hell nVidia restored 800 meg worth
of OpenGL SDK to the Vista OS. So looks
like the Engineering Industry is going to take
a great big hit right in the pocketbook if they
move to Vista , and then have to pay AutoCAD,
etc for re-engineering their apps.

Won't happen. All AutoCAD need do is just recommend their customers to
stay with XP... at least until the next major version of AutoCAD
arrives. Just as Adobe, Matrox and many other 3rd-party developers are
doing right now. Matrox has not even tested one item of their
3rd-party video hardware with Vista, and publicly advise their
customers to stick with XP.So if your management really needs to run
the current version of AutoCAD with reasonable efficiency , well just
tell them the bad news... no Vista. But first contact AutoCAD and get
the full details on the actual problem source from the "horse's mouth"
and their expected upgrade path (and its timing) to full resolution.

As for MOHAA,
I really like the MOH series, and I'm sticking
with XP. Microsoft can take Vista and put it
up their conniving butts for another 10 years.

Oh yeah :-) AutoCAD reports that it is running
at 5 frames per second under Vista. Ha ! That
is your OpenGL translation to D3D.

No wonder Crysis has been delayed almost
a year. Nobody is that stupid.


YOU are whenever you warble about Crysis.

Crysis has nothing to do with your OGL/AutoCAD laments. Crysis uses
the Dx10 and Dx9 APIs.... and the appropriate video drivers.

I thought you were going to the Game Developer's conference ? On right
now. I even looked up Crytek's booth number for you. #484 in the West
Hall.

Please stop making an obvious fool of yourself by regurgitating
baseless rumors about the Crysis schedule.

John Lewis
"I need my delusions of grandure" *johns* 12-Feb-2007

Please stop making an obvious fool of yourself by regurgitating
baseless rumors about the Crysis schedule.

Having a small "crysis" of my own. I'm in
my 5th game of Gothic 3 so I won't have
to spend the next 8 months listening to
limp-wristed talking heads in Oblivion. Crysis
obviously went to ground because it is a
dx9c game that was hoping to upgrade
to the far superior dx10 and herald in the
Age Of Vista. Only Bill blew it again, and
now, Crysis is trapped between "we told
you so" support of XP ... and crashing
to the "latest and greatest" high-priced
gaming Desktops of Vista. This means
$$$-coders just sitting there with nothing
to do. Will EA GAMES fire Crytek ?
Will Grandma finally give us Far Cry 2 ?
Will patch 1.4 ever be finished ?

johns

On 6 Mar 2007 08:51:02 -0800, "johns" wrote:

Please stop making an obvious fool of yourself by regurgitating
baseless rumors about the Crysis schedule.

Having a small "crysis" of my own. I'm in
my 5th game of Gothic 3 so I won't have
to spend the next 8 months listening to
limp-wristed talking heads in Oblivion. Crysis
obviously went to ground because it is a
dx9c game that was hoping to upgrade
to the far superior dx10 and herald in the
Age Of Vista. Only Bill blew it again, and
now, Crysis is trapped between "we told
you so" support of XP ... and crashing
to the "latest and greatest" high-priced
gaming Desktops of Vista. This means
$$$-coders just sitting there with nothing
to do. Will EA GAMES fire Crytek ?
Will Grandma finally give us Far Cry 2 ?
Will patch 1.4 ever be finished ?

johns


......regurgitating again. Sigh !....
It might be wise to wipe the vomit off your shirt before you discuss
the Vista (non-)virtues of AutoCAD with your management.

John Lewis

"I need my delusions of grandure" *johns* 12-Feb-2007