powerleap ripoff.

Setting the clock multiplier to x2 causes the appropriate BFn signals to be
generated. What operating system are you running?

"Jeptha" wrote in message
om...
okay i tried the lowering of the speed to 133 mhz. (clock:6.6 bus
speed:2.0)
It did not work.
what do you mean by "bf0, bf1 etc.?

what was this about a "mr bios" upgrade that was mentioned earlier?

"It did not work." What does that mean? The BIOS did not display the expected
400MHz speed? The system would not boot at all?

BF0, BF1 and BF2 are the names assigned to the pins on which asserted electronic
signals will cause the system to run with a given clock multiplier. That's only
for us hardware freaks. Setting the motherboard jumpers for the clock
multiplier generates the appropriate signals on these pins... Ben Myers

On 22 May 2004 14:58:36 -0700, (Jeptha) wrote:

okay i tried the lowering of the speed to 133 mhz. (clock:6.6 bus speed:2.0)
It did not work.
what do you mean by "bf0, bf1 etc.?

what was this about a "mr bios" upgrade that was mentioned earlier?

BTW - I have successfully used Powerleap's PL-Pro-MMX adapter on a PB600 MB
without a BIOS upgrade. I still have a file labeled PB600.exe (300KB) in a
BIOS folder but don't remember if this is it. Do you/anyone know which MB
is in this machine?

"mdp" wrote in message
ink.net...
Setting the clock multiplier to x2 causes the appropriate BFn signals to
be
generated. What operating system are you running?

"Jeptha" wrote in message
om...
okay i tried the lowering of the speed to 133 mhz. (clock:6.6 bus
speed:2.0)
It did not work.
what do you mean by "bf0, bf1 etc.?

what was this about a "mr bios" upgrade that was mentioned earlier?

ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message
...
"It did not work." What does that mean? The BIOS did not display
the expected
400MHz speed? The system would not boot at all?

BF0, BF1 and BF2 are the names assigned to the pins on which
asserted electronic
signals will cause the system to run with a given clock multiplier.
That's only
for us hardware freaks. Setting the motherboard jumpers for the
clock
multiplier generates the appropriate signals on these pins... Ben
Myers

On 22 May 2004 14:58:36 -0700, (Jeptha) wrote:

okay i tried the lowering of the speed to 133 mhz. (clock:6.6 bus
speed:2.0)
It did not work.
what do you mean by "bf0, bf1 etc.?

what was this about a "mr bios" upgrade that was mentioned earlier?


Which in some newer systems have the auto set for the jumper pins. The
multiplier is usually set for the clock speed via the pin assignment.
Or In some of the newer systems the pin assignment is made so that
"gamers etc" cannot overclock the system. In this case you place the
CPU in the motherboard and it detects what it needs to know and sets
it. In an older PB there should be a mark on the motherboard showing
the pin assignment for the speed. If there is not, in some cases
there is a software program supplied by the manufacturer (DFI comes to
mind) that allows you to set the speed via this method.

In some cases the CPU is bad and will not function, you should try
another and see if that is not the case here. If there is a pin
assignment for AUTO set it to that. If not look at the PIN diagram and
set the pins for the rated speed of the new CPU.

Elector

which motherboard do you have a PB600 or PB640?

If you have PB640 ........you will need the mr bios upgrade if you want to
run an AMD K6 processor.....no if s about it....


"Jeptha" wrote in message
om...
okay i tried the lowering of the speed to 133 mhz. (clock:6.6 bus
speed:2.0)
It did not work.
what do you mean by "bf0, bf1 etc.?

what was this about a "mr bios" upgrade that was mentioned earlier?

That was a very good answer Tony
Powerleap provides only a board that has the correct voltages (using
volatge regulators)
and the multipliers
integrated to make it user friendly
The bios must still see the chip
It does not have to specify it properly but it must recognize it properly
No see no can do

I have never purchased one
I have played with them

I could etch a board similar to theirs for about 2 dollars
Soldering in all the pins to be used an an interposer for the cpu socket
would be kind of hard
If I checked out the pin spacing that may not be a problem as these pins are
available in a ready
made series
The voltage regulator and current requirements would have to be met

For the price they charge and what they give I have a hard time beleiving
that
they do not give the bios free
Mircrofirmaware would still be ok if Powerleap would have used them
Bios can be a lot cheaper when buying in mass
Then again there are a lot of computers and bioses

For the price they charge(Powerleap)
I would surely get another MB first
Cheap as can be on Ebay


Using a powerleap is like putting a 4 barrel on
a dodge slant six
More power yes
A lot
No
Still have a slant six (by the way that was a die hard engine)
Never going to be a V6 or V8 no matter how you upgrade





"tonys" wrote in message
news:uV6sc.1575$wH1.1349@fed1read02...
which motherboard do you have a PB600 or PB640?

If you have PB640 ........you will need the mr bios upgrade if you want to
run an AMD K6 processor.....no if s about it....


"Jeptha" wrote in message
om...
okay i tried the lowering of the speed to 133 mhz. (clock:6.6 bus
speed:2.0)
It did not work.
what do you mean by "bf0, bf1 etc.?

what was this about a "mr bios" upgrade that was mentioned earlier?

I am running wondows 98 se.

will I have to pay to ship the powerleap back to the store? (I got it online)

oops,

When i meant "it did not work" I meant that the computer won't even boot.
I can see the jumper settings because they are printed on the board.
I wonder......
If I tested the powerleap on another 166 pc and it boots up.....
or if it dosen't boot up....
It might just work.

I will go test my theory.

I will tell you the results.

OH NO!!!!!!

IT BOOTED UP!!!

But it is saying that is a 486 @75 mhz.

Is my pb motherboard not compatible?

Did I waste $100 on nothing?

$70 in upgrade parts....for nothing?

Note: The one that booted up was the pc that I tested to make certain
that the powerleap was not dead so the pb did not boot up.

No, the motherboard BIOS is telling you it has no clue what sort of CPU is in
the system. The speed may still be the hoped for 400MHz. To find out, run
AMD's CPUSPEED utility available from its web site.

It is important to realize that a motherboard BIOS is just another computer
program. It is semi-permanently burned into the BIOS chip. It is susceptible
to prorgrammer errors and design shortcomings, just like any other software.

I am dead certain that the BIOS writers never had a clue that the AMD K6 even
existed when the BIOS was designed and written.

I have seen similar BIOS misreporting of CPU type and speed all the way back to
486s, when they were confronted with faster processors in their CPU sockets.

.... Ben Myers

On 23 May 2004 17:54:47 -0700, (Jeptha) wrote:

OH NO!!!!!!

IT BOOTED UP!!!

But it is saying that is a 486 @75 mhz.

Is my pb motherboard not compatible?

Did I waste $100 on nothing?

$70 in upgrade parts....for nothing?

Note: The one that booted up was the pc that I tested to make certain
that the powerleap was not dead so the pb did not boot up.