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Old September 15th 15, 02:46 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
Skybuck Flying[_4_]
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Default Backdoor in Skylake ? Was ( Microsoft 2015 Privacy Statement (Was Skybuck's DreamPC design for 2015, version 1 initial draft.))

Unfortunately the Z170 chipset seems to include the ME engine:

http://ark.intel.com/products/90591

"Intel® ME Firmware Version 11.0"


Hmmm...

Might have to wait for AMD's zen chip/platform.

Maybe it less spyie

Bye,
Skybuck

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Old September 15th 15, 03:21 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
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Default Backdoor in Skylake ? Was ( Microsoft 2015 Privacy Statement

Skybuck Flying wrote:
This document says it moved from PCH to MCH:

2014-10 [Breakpoint] Intel ME - Two Years Later.pdf

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sk...rs%20Later.pdf


Bye,
Skybuck.


I think "ME" has moved down, as in the PCH on the right.

http://www.nordichardware.com/skrive...g/559/p552.jpg

The only puzzling part, is whether they'd stage RAM for the
thing in the processor, and use DMI for the transactions.
DMI is the bus between PCH and CPU.

And it's not a spying concern as such. It's more a worry
about attack from the outside, leading to compromise of the
main system.

It's easy enough to stop the NIC path - by plugging in a
third-party NIC card on the PCI-Express bus and using it instead.
Trouble is, finding a good brand of NIC that isn't Intel... I
would pick Marvell, but they're just not in the market any more
that I can see. I have four NIC cards here already that I cannot
use, because they are crap.

And doing a complete Wifi inside one of the chips is only feasible
if there isn't a metal cover over the chip. If you want to
secretly communicate with the outside world, you have to
solve the antenna problem first. If you make an antenna inside
the metal computer case, it's not going to work all that well.
The computer case is certainly not hermetic, if doesn't use
RF gasketing. But still, there is going to be enough attenuation
to make "spying" pretty difficult.

Paul
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Old September 15th 15, 03:23 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.arch,nl.comp.hardware,sci.electronics.design
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Default Skybuck's DreamPC design for 2015, version 1 initial draft.

On 9/13/2015 8:03 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

The real problem is we consumers including US Government have NO CONTROL
over Micro$oft.


Sure you do. Don't buy their ****, they will change.

--

Rick
 




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