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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it
came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
Tim Murray wrote:
My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? Is there a 64-bit Home version of Vista? Somehow, I doubt it, but I do not confess to being any sort of expert on all the permutations, combinations and versions of Vista. Acer-eGatemachines seems to be following the same approach as Dell and HPaq. If you are a consumer, you probably get only the home version of Vista, even if it is only 32 bit. If you are a business customer, you get the choice of either 32-bit or 64-bit Vista. In other words, consumers are a low-class caste, too dumb to know what to do with a 64-bit operating system... Ben Myers |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
Ben Myers wrote:
Tim Murray wrote: My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? Is there a 64-bit Home version of Vista? Somehow, I doubt it, but I do not confess to being any sort of expert on all the permutations, combinations and versions of Vista. Acer-eGatemachines seems to be following the same approach as Dell and HPaq. If you are a consumer, you probably get only the home version of Vista, even if it is only 32 bit. If you are a business customer, you get the choice of either 32-bit or 64-bit Vista. In other words, consumers are a low-class caste, too dumb to know what to do with a 64-bit operating system... Ben Myers There is a 64-bit Vista, but not everything on it works properly and some things are missing that are in the 32-bit version. The rumor, gossip, & hearsay I find on the Wild & Wooly estimates that the 64-bit should be the preferred version for ordinary users by 2015. Given Micro$loth's usual habit of having all upgrades available on schedule, that may be optimistic. Cheers! jim b. -- UNIX is not user unfriendly; it merely expects users to be computer-friendly. |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
Jim Beard wrote:
Ben Myers wrote: Tim Murray wrote: My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? Is there a 64-bit Home version of Vista? Somehow, I doubt it, but I do not confess to being any sort of expert on all the permutations, combinations and versions of Vista. Acer-eGatemachines seems to be following the same approach as Dell and HPaq. If you are a consumer, you probably get only a home version of Vista, even if it is only 32 bit. If you are a business customer, you get the choice of either 32-bit or 64-bit Vista. In other words, consumers are a low-class caste, too dumb to know what to do with a 64-bit operating system... Ben Myers There is a 64-bit Vista, but not everything on it works properly and some things are missing that are in the 32-bit version. The rumor, gossip, & hearsay I find on the Wild & Wooly estimates that the 64-bit should be the preferred version for ordinary users by 2015. Given Micro$loth's usual habit of having all upgrades available on schedule, that may be optimistic. Cheers! jim b. True. But AFAIK (and I am never one to be confused by the facts either), 64-bit Vista is not available in any Home version, only the Pro, Ultimate, and Super Ultimate Extreme-with-a-Side-of-Sushi versions. Leave it to Microsoft to confuse us AND itself with this proliferation of Vista versions. Or was that Vista virgins? Now that would be a great marketing ploy, but it would appeal mostly to menfolk... Ben Myers |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:41:34 -0400, Ben Myers wrote:
True. But AFAIK (and I am never one to be confused by the facts either), 64-bit Vista is not available in any Home version, only the Pro, Ultimate, and Super Ultimate Extreme-with-a-Side-of-Sushi versions. Even Vista Home Basic edition is available in 64 bit, see http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...oduct_id=11765 -- Regards - Rodney Pont The from address exists but is mostly dumped, please send any emails to the address below e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk |
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Rodney Pont wrote:
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:41:34 -0400, Ben Myers wrote: True. But AFAIK (and I am never one to be confused by the facts either), 64-bit Vista is not available in any Home version, only the Pro, Ultimate, and Super Ultimate Extreme-with-a-Side-of-Sushi versions. Even Vista Home Basic edition is available in 64 bit, see http://www.cclonline.com/product-inf...oduct_id=11765 So it is! Chalk one up for Acer-eGateMachines wanting to limit the number of operating system versions it supports, albeit badly. .... Ben Myers |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... Tim Murray wrote: My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? Is there a 64-bit Home version of Vista? Somehow, I doubt it, but I do not confess to being any sort of expert on all the permutations, combinations and versions of Vista. Acer-eGatemachines seems to be following the same approach as Dell and HPaq. If you are a consumer, you probably get only the home version of Vista, even if it is only 32 bit. If you are a business customer, you get the choice of either 32-bit or 64-bit Vista. In other words, consumers are a low-class caste, too dumb to know what to do with a 64-bit operating system... Ben Myers Dell has been shipping a Vista-64 Home Premium for a few months now. Both my wifes Inspiron 518 and my sons Studio One 19 came with Vista 64 bit. Base machines seem to be shipped with 32 bit Vista Home Basic, the mid-level and top line models get 64 bit Home Premium. Carl |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
Hi, Tim.
No need to wonder about whether Vista Home Premium - or any other version - is available in 64-bit. ALL versions of Vista are available in both 32-bit and 64-bit editions. Just go to the official site to get all the details: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ome-basic.aspx To compare 32-bit and 64-bit, just type "64 bit" into the search box. Remember that Vista has been on the market for nearly 3 years now. When it arrived in 2006, 32-bit was still the dominant platform, so most new computers - even 64-bit machines - came with 32-bit Vista pre-installed. At that time, many manufacturers of printers and other peripherals had not written 64-bit drivers for their hardware, because they did not yet see a market for those drivers. And many software developers had not yet produced versions of their software that would run in a 64-bit operating system. A lot has happened in the computer world in the last 3 years. Now, it's hard to find a new computer with a 32-bit CPU. And 64-bit drivers are not scarce anymore. But my perception is that many - and perhaps most - 64-bit computers still come with 32-bit Vista pre-installed. The good news is that a new buyer of 32-bit Vista can get the 64-bit version from Microsoft or from the computer OEM for a very low cost. I haven't needed it so I haven't checked it out, but I'm sure the answer is at that URL above. Of course, since it's a Gateway, it probably would be best to check the Gateway website first. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100 "Tim Murray" wrote in message . net... My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? |
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"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... Tim Murray wrote: My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? Is there a 64-bit Home version of Vista? Somehow, I doubt it, but I do not confess to being any sort of expert on all the permutations, combinations and versions of Vista. Acer-eGatemachines seems to be following the same approach as Dell and HPaq. If you are a consumer, you probably get only the home version of Vista, even if it is only 32 bit. If you are a business customer, you get the choice of either 32-bit or 64-bit Vista. In other words, consumers are a low-class caste, too dumb to know what to do with a 64-bit operating system... Ben Myers 64-bit Vista is available in all flavors. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/ Most PC's/notebooks I've seen or considered were loaded with 32-bit Home Premium. I don't think it's a matter of MS thinking that home users are too dumb for 64-bit; I think it's more of a matter of home users not necessarily needing 64-bit for what they do. Since most home users do more gaming than anything else (I know, that's a generalization), and there aren't too many 64-bit games out there, and 64-bit Vista doesn't seem to run 32-bit programs all that well, MS and the manufacturers just put a 32-bit version on their most popular market machines. 32-bit is cheaper, too. That's just my opinion, I may be wrong. SC Tom |
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32-bit Vista with a 64-bit AMD Gateway
SC Tom wrote:
"Ben Myers" wrote in message ... Tim Murray wrote: My neighbor just bought a Gateway T-1631 with an AMD Turion 64x2 chip and it came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Is this typical of Gateway to match 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit chip? Is there a 64-bit Home version of Vista? Somehow, I doubt it, but I do not confess to being any sort of expert on all the permutations, combinations and versions of Vista. Acer-eGatemachines seems to be following the same approach as Dell and HPaq. If you are a consumer, you probably get only the home version of Vista, even if it is only 32 bit. If you are a business customer, you get the choice of either 32-bit or 64-bit Vista. In other words, consumers are a low-class caste, too dumb to know what to do with a 64-bit operating system... Ben Myers 64-bit Vista is available in all flavors. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/ Most PC's/notebooks I've seen or considered were loaded with 32-bit Home Premium. I don't think it's a matter of MS thinking that home users are too dumb for 64-bit; I think it's more of a matter of home users not necessarily needing 64-bit for what they do. Since most home users do more gaming than anything else (I know, that's a generalization), and there aren't too many 64-bit games out there, and 64-bit Vista doesn't seem to run 32-bit programs all that well, MS and the manufacturers just put a 32-bit version on their most popular market machines. 32-bit is cheaper, too. That's just my opinion, I may be wrong. SC Tom 32bit programs run fine on 64bit vista, sometimes they even run faster. Gaming and 64bit work really well as it lets you use more than 2gb of ram properly. They put 32bit on machines because mostly they only install 1-3GB of ram. I've been running 64bit vista and XP since they came out and have had no problems whatsoever. It's true that there anrmt many games natively supporting 64bit but all the games I have which are most of the latest released run flawlessly. I woulnd't go back to 32bit for anything as it's faster and has support for loads of memory. Hope this helps |
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