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Old May 5th 05, 06:17 PM
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Hello,

I'm currently running a Celeron 2ghz at 2.66ghz on a Asus P4B 533
motherboard. This is at default voltage, default Intel cooler,133Mhz
bus speed and some noname PC 2100 / 2700 DDR memory. This celeron run
24x7 , as it is used on a small server on my home network. I'm really
satisfied of this configuration. (While it is not used for gaming). It
remembers me my old Celeron 300A@45=E0 :-)

i'm looking to build a mini-pc, at low/medium cost. What is currently
the equivalent of this celeron on the market (best price / oc ratio
with 100% stability). It aims to be a small Linux server, so i will
prefer stable hardware compare to high end , latest release peripheral
where i may have some difficult to identify all drivers.

Thanks in advance.

Gelu Laurent

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Old May 5th 05, 07:50 PM
Pat
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I have a Celeron D 2.4 overclocked to 3.6. Runs hot, over 60C at that speed,
but that's like all Prescott's, but its pretty fast. That's also with the
stock heatsink and fan. I have the Socket 478 version, but I know they make
some of the faster Celeron D's in the Socket T.

You might consider starting with slightly slower Celeron D so when you get
get to 800 MHZ fsb it won't be quite as hot or fast.

They're 533 or 133 bus, whichever way you prefer to look at it. So PC3200
will handle almost any overclock you can throw at it.

Pair it up with a cheap Abit or Asus motherboard and you should be good to
go.

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Hello,

I'm currently running a Celeron 2ghz at 2.66ghz on a Asus P4B 533
motherboard. This is at default voltage, default Intel cooler,133Mhz
bus speed and some noname PC 2100 / 2700 DDR memory. This celeron run
24x7 , as it is used on a small server on my home network. I'm really
satisfied of this configuration. (While it is not used for gaming). It
remembers me my old Celeron 300A@45à :-)

i'm looking to build a mini-pc, at low/medium cost. What is currently
the equivalent of this celeron on the market (best price / oc ratio
with 100% stability). It aims to be a small Linux server, so i will
prefer stable hardware compare to high end , latest release peripheral
where i may have some difficult to identify all drivers.

Thanks in advance.

Gelu Laurent



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Old May 5th 05, 08:31 PM
Gelu Laurent
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Yes, Celeron D looks good. But, going from 2.4 to 3.6 is a big O/C.

Is there any goods with the Celeron D315 or the 325J ? The 315 for its
lower clock ratio, and the J CPU because it may make less heat that a
classical prescott.

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Old May 5th 05, 09:47 PM
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"Gelu Laurent" wrote in message
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Yes, Celeron D looks good. But, going from 2.4 to 3.6 is a big O/C.

Is there any goods with the Celeron D315 or the 325J ? The 315 for its
lower clock ratio, and the J CPU because it may make less heat that a
classical prescott.



About all I can tell you is that mine is 100% stable. Warm, but stable.

Needless to say, you don't need to go for an even 800 mhz FSB speed. 667 is
good too.

Maybe the 315 version would be better because if you do get it up to 3.6 Ghz
or so, you'd have a faster bus speed than mine. Which should equal better
performance. I should note that I've run mine as high as 3.7 Ghz at stock
voltage with 100% stability. But I didn't like seeing temps approaching 70
C.

check out this article.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...celeron-d.html Its from almost
a year ago, before the latest Celeron D core came out, but if I remember
correctly, they got one of the 2.8 processors up to 3.8 or something like
that. In this article, they compare it to the sempron
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...y/sempron.html

I have no experience with the J versions for Socket T, however, that does
include the Execute Bit Disable feature. Not sure if your particular flavor
of Linux supports that or not. If you go with the Socket T version, maybe
you'll get a newer core stepping and get even more speed.

Hope some of that helps. In my opinion, the lower speed Celeron D's are the
best bang for the buck processors out there right now. At least if you plan
to overclock.

And finally, I've got some Artic Silver on its way to my house. So sometime
in the next few days I hope to replace the stock thermal grease with the
Artic Silver. I'll try to remember to post the results of that experiment
back here for you.




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Old May 5th 05, 11:42 PM
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nice oc pat
"Pat" wrote in message ...

"Gelu Laurent" wrote in message
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Yes, Celeron D looks good. But, going from 2.4 to 3.6 is a big O/C.

Is there any goods with the Celeron D315 or the 325J ? The 315 for its
lower clock ratio, and the J CPU because it may make less heat that a
classical prescott.



About all I can tell you is that mine is 100% stable. Warm, but stable.

Needless to say, you don't need to go for an even 800 mhz FSB speed. 667
is good too.

Maybe the 315 version would be better because if you do get it up to 3.6
Ghz or so, you'd have a faster bus speed than mine. Which should equal
better performance. I should note that I've run mine as high as 3.7 Ghz at
stock voltage with 100% stability. But I didn't like seeing temps
approaching 70 C.

check out this article.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...celeron-d.html Its from
almost a year ago, before the latest Celeron D core came out, but if I
remember correctly, they got one of the 2.8 processors up to 3.8 or
something like that. In this article, they compare it to the sempron
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...y/sempron.html

I have no experience with the J versions for Socket T, however, that does
include the Execute Bit Disable feature. Not sure if your particular
flavor of Linux supports that or not. If you go with the Socket T version,
maybe you'll get a newer core stepping and get even more speed.

Hope some of that helps. In my opinion, the lower speed Celeron D's are
the best bang for the buck processors out there right now. At least if you
plan to overclock.

And finally, I've got some Artic Silver on its way to my house. So
sometime in the next few days I hope to replace the stock thermal grease
with the Artic Silver. I'll try to remember to post the results of that
experiment back here for you.




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Old May 6th 05, 03:33 PM
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nice oc pat



Thanks. I'm quite happy with it.



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Old May 6th 05, 07:29 AM
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I think i will go for a 325J with a P5P800 Mobo (Socket T with I865).
The price of this mobo is equivalent to the cheapest Intel / Asus I478
Mobo.

I'm looking to identify any overclocking test with the Celeron 325J,
but seems to be hard to see some O/C test on this CPU.

I hope that 3,8Ghz will not be too enthousiast for that CPU. (Else i
will go back to 667 Mhz bus speed, so about 2.9Ghz).

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Old May 6th 05, 03:38 PM
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"Gelu Laurent" wrote in message
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I think i will go for a 325J with a P5P800 Mobo (Socket T with I865).
The price of this mobo is equivalent to the cheapest Intel / Asus I478
Mobo.

I'm looking to identify any overclocking test with the Celeron 325J,
but seems to be hard to see some O/C test on this CPU.

I hope that 3,8Ghz will not be too enthousiast for that CPU. (Else i
will go back to 667 Mhz bus speed, so about 2.9Ghz).


I think that's a good decision. That also gives you some sort of upgrade
path if you ever decide to go P4. Although, it sounds like you'd be limited
to single core in any upgrades.

And don't forget, most motherboards will allow PCI and AGP ( and probably
PCI-Express) frequency locking. So don't be too afraid to go with a
non-standard FSB. Of course, benchmarking will tell you for sure, but I
don't see any reason why you couldn't run it at alike a 720 FSB with memory
at 180 mhz. That would give you 3.42 Ghz.

Best of luck. Post your results here. I'd like to see how you do.

Pat



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Old May 6th 05, 08:47 PM
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Brings back memories of my all time greatest overclock; the 6502 in an Apple
//e at 8 MHz (an 800% overclock.) All right, I'll confess. It was a
plug-in replacement for the CPU, a hybrid that contained a clock multiplier,
16 KByte cache, and an 8 MHz 6502. Better performance than an 8 MHz 8086
B^)

Phil Weldon

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Hello,

I'm currently running a Celeron 2ghz at 2.66ghz on a Asus P4B 533
motherboard. This is at default voltage, default Intel cooler,133Mhz
bus speed and some noname PC 2100 / 2700 DDR memory. This celeron run
24x7 , as it is used on a small server on my home network. I'm really
satisfied of this configuration. (While it is not used for gaming). It
remembers me my old Celeron 300A@45à :-)

i'm looking to build a mini-pc, at low/medium cost. What is currently
the equivalent of this celeron on the market (best price / oc ratio
with 100% stability). It aims to be a small Linux server, so i will
prefer stable hardware compare to high end , latest release peripheral
where i may have some difficult to identify all drivers.

Thanks in advance.

Gelu Laurent


 




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