Looking for a good, cheap keyboard.

On 1/28/2010 8:59 PM, John Corliss wrote:
John McGaw wrote:
John Corliss wrote:
(big snip)
Thanks for replying! I was indeed looking over the Logitech offerings.
I've typed on their keyboards before and they're pretty nice. In
particular, I'm looking at the two Logitechs I mentioned above. You've
pushed me even more in that direction.

You can get the Logitech Wave for $26 if you are willing to take a
refurb:

http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product...oducts_id=9897

Or you can get what appears to be a new one at TigerDirect for $30:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...TCjCVqHCjCdwwp


That link probably wrapped very badly but I'm sure you can figure out
what to do with it.

Thanks very much for those links. They both allowed me to have a closer
look at the key layout on the Wave. I can see now that it's not what I'm
looking for since there are no configurable special keys.

Back to the drawing board I guess.


There are 12 user-configurable function keys on the wave. Tapping
Fn+F1, for instance, defaults to running Microsoft word, but it can be
reconfigured.

"John Corliss" wrote in message
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kony wrote:
John Corliss wrote:

For several years now, I've been using a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard
like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-K49-.../dp/B00006D2LI

except it's black and white instead of blue and white. Lately, the keys
have been sticking and no amount of cleaning the board (I disassemble it
and throw the top part in a solution of Tide and water) will make the
keys work smoothly again. Besides, I'm sick and tired of having to turn
the thing on (press the "F Lock" button every time I start up the
computer) so that I can simply get normal function out of my function
keys. Another dislike I have always had for the keyboard is that I have
to install and use Microsoft Intellitype in order to be able to
configure the special keys to do the things that I want them to.
Intellitype sucks up a little over 19 mb of my system's pitiful 512 mb
of ram (I'm a low-bucks hippie).

What I'm looking for is a cheap, reliable keyboard which also has
special function keys but doesn't require as much system resource
overhead to configure them.

Can anybody recommend something? TIA

Considering the issue of software bloat, you might try the
oldest version, or at least an older version, that works on
your choice of operating system. I would expect more and
more new keyboard drivers to be designed with little concern
for how much memory they use, since memory has become quite
inexpensive, but generally MS does seem one of the worst in
taking liberties to the extent that a system becomes slow...
so you buy another one, which comes with a new windows
licen$e.

Thanks for replying. Yes, I considered going to an earlier version of
Intellipoint, but the latest version has a feature for this keyboard I
would not like to lose, being able to set the function keys to their
default settings. Also, my main problem is that the keys on this old board
are starting to stick when I press down on them, the lettering is getting
worn off of the keys and the palm rest is barely held on anymore.

Time for a new keyboard.

I would never have chosen a Microsoft keyboard in the first place just out
of spite. It's what came with this computer.

It's looking like a Logitech might be what I'm looking for.

--
John Corliss

You might want to take a look at the "Zboard" especially if you need to
clean the keys. Since the keyboard layout is replaceable, cleaning is a
snap. (Not that the keyboard is subject to the kind of clogging up that
you described for your current one.) It is described as a "Gamer's
Keyboard", but I use the regular multimedia keyboard key insert.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16823161013

http://www.newegg.com/Product/NewPro...82E16823161013

There are some other keysets for programs like Adobe Photoshop

http://www.acerlaptops.co.za/ke-zkps...hop-p-8486.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Ideazon-IWOUSE.../dp/B00008WFIY

The non-game keysets are very rare and practicaly impossible to find.
Except
the multimedia one that comes with all of the keyboards.

Luck;
Ken

Grinder wrote:
John Corliss wrote:
John McGaw wrote:
John Corliss wrote:
(big snip)
Thanks for replying! I was indeed looking over the Logitech offerings.
I've typed on their keyboards before and they're pretty nice. In
particular, I'm looking at the two Logitechs I mentioned above. You've
pushed me even more in that direction.

You can get the Logitech Wave for $26 if you are willing to take a
refurb:

http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product...oducts_id=9897

Or you can get what appears to be a new one at TigerDirect for $30:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...TCjCVqHCjCdwwp

That link probably wrapped very badly but I'm sure you can figure out
what to do with it.

Thanks very much for those links. They both allowed me to have a closer
look at the key layout on the Wave. I can see now that it's not what I'm
looking for since there are no configurable special keys.

Back to the drawing board I guess.

There are 12 user-configurable function keys on the wave. Tapping Fn+F1,
for instance, defaults to running Microsoft word, but it can be
reconfigured.

Sorry and I know this sounds picky, but I want to be able to press one
button to say, load my default browser or a program I often use.

I can already use Control-Alt- shortcut keystroke combinations. I'm
afraid using a Fn key with one of the 12 function keys would not be much
of an advantage.

--
John Corliss

Ken Maltby wrote:
John Corliss wrote:
John Corliss wrote:

For several years now, I've been using a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard
like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-K49-.../dp/B00006D2LI

except it's black and white instead of blue and white. Lately, the keys
have been sticking and no amount of cleaning the board (I disassemble it
and throw the top part in a solution of Tide and water) will make the
keys work smoothly again. Besides, I'm sick and tired of having to turn
the thing on (press the "F Lock" button every time I start up the
computer) so that I can simply get normal function out of my function
keys. Another dislike I have always had for the keyboard is that I have
to install and use Microsoft Intellitype in order to be able to
configure the special keys to do the things that I want them to.
Intellitype sucks up a little over 19 mb of my system's pitiful 512 mb
of ram (I'm a low-bucks hippie).

What I'm looking for is a cheap, reliable keyboard which also has
special function keys but doesn't require as much system resource
overhead to configure them.

Can anybody recommend something? TIA

Considering the issue of software bloat, you might try the
oldest version, or at least an older version, that works on
your choice of operating system. I would expect more and
more new keyboard drivers to be designed with little concern
for how much memory they use, since memory has become quite
inexpensive, but generally MS does seem one of the worst in
taking liberties to the extent that a system becomes slow...
so you buy another one, which comes with a new windows
licen$e.

Thanks for replying. Yes, I considered going to an earlier version of
Intellipoint, but the latest version has a feature for this keyboard I
would not like to lose, being able to set the function keys to their
default settings. Also, my main problem is that the keys on this old board
are starting to stick when I press down on them, the lettering is getting
worn off of the keys and the palm rest is barely held on anymore.

Time for a new keyboard.

I would never have chosen a Microsoft keyboard in the first place just out
of spite. It's what came with this computer.

It's looking like a Logitech might be what I'm looking for.

You might want to take a look at the "Zboard" especially if you need to
clean the keys. Since the keyboard layout is replaceable, cleaning is a
snap. (Not that the keyboard is subject to the kind of clogging up that
you described for your current one.) It is described as a "Gamer's
Keyboard", but I use the regular multimedia keyboard key insert.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16823161013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/NewPro...82E16823161013

There are some other keysets for programs like Adobe Photoshop

http://www.acerlaptops.co.za/ke-zkps...hop-p-8486.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Ideazon-IWOUSE.../dp/B00008WFIY

The non-game keysets are very rare and practicaly impossible to find.
Except the multimedia one that comes with all of the keyboards.

Thanks for the suggestion, Ken, but after reading the reviews at Newegg
it looks like a lot of people complained that the keyboard started
failing badly after only one month to a year.

At this point, I'm looking primarily at Logitech and Kensington
keyboards. Some of them have their problems too, but overall their
reviews seem to be a little more positive.

--
John Corliss

John Corliss wrote:

What I'm looking for is a cheap, reliable keyboard which also has
special function keys but doesn't require as much system resource
overhead to configure them.

GeekHack.com has the most information about computer keyboards, by
far, including reviews and major modifications (turn original IBM 101-
key Model M into USB).

On 2/2/2010 10:43 PM, larry moe 'n curly wrote:


John Corliss wrote:

What I'm looking for is a cheap, reliable keyboard which also has
special function keys but doesn't require as much system resource
overhead to configure them.

GeekHack.com has the most information about computer keyboards, by
far, including reviews and major modifications (turn original IBM 101-
key Model M into USB).

Not any more, apparently.

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:06:59 -0600, Grinder
wrote:

On 2/2/2010 10:43 PM, larry moe 'n curly wrote:


John Corliss wrote:

What I'm looking for is a cheap, reliable keyboard which also has
special function keys but doesn't require as much system resource
overhead to configure them.

GeekHack.com has the most information about computer keyboards, by
far, including reviews and major modifications (turn original IBM 101-
key Model M into USB).

Not any more, apparently.

Must have started as a low budget 'site, or lack of
foresight, so they failed to register alternate doman name
suffixes... site referred to is probably
http://www.geekhack.org

kony wrote:

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:06:59 -0600, Grinder
wrote:

On 2/2/2010 10:43 PM, larry moe 'n curly wrote:


John Corliss wrote:

What I'm looking for is a cheap, reliable keyboard which also has
special function keys but doesn't require as much system resource
overhead to configure them.

GeekHack.com has the most information about computer keyboards, by
far, including reviews and major modifications (turn original IBM 101-
key Model M into USB).

Not any more, apparently.

Must have started as a low budget 'site, or lack of
foresight, so they failed to register alternate doman name
suffixes... site referred to is probably
http://www.geekhack.org

You're right.