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how HUGE are your BALLS, Adrian Miller? ------------------------------------------- Only a trashy company like Roxio or Adaptec let loosed in Usenet this utter trash ------------------------------------------- Deirdre Straughan (Roxio) is a LIAR ----------------------------------- Mike Richter is a LIAR ---------------------- Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here - when they gave up, he transferred his diatribes to anyone he saw as in any way an apologist for Roxio, and Mike in particular. One can kill file him - unfortunately one cannot be rid of all the people who make follow ups posts that quote him. (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Considering that my posts are nothing more than quoting the posts of Adrian Miller, Deirdre Straughan and Mike Richter: Are Adrian Miller's words diatribes? Don't you get ecstatic seeing Adrian Miller's words? Shouldn't you get ecstatic seeing Adrian Miller's words? Are Deirdre Straughan's words diatribes? Don't you get ecstatic seeing Deirdre Straughan's words? Shouldn't you get ecstatic seeing Deirdre Straughan's words? Are Mike Richter's words diatribes? Don't you get ecstatic seeing Mike Richter's words? Shouldn't you get ecstatic seeing Mike Richter's words? |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here - when they gave up, he transferred his diatribes to anyone he saw as in any way an apologist for Roxio, and Mike in particular. One can kill file him - unfortunately one cannot be rid of all the people who make follow ups posts that quote him. Whatever happened to "unsubstantiated accusations"? ========================== From: smh Subject: Ezcd 3.5 & Win 2k - License Violation (1 of 2) Date: 3/4/01 Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: ... only makes inflammatory and unsubstantiated accusations (especially at Adaptec) constantly - Give one example of my "unsubstantiated accusations". ========================= Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here Whatever happened to "unsubstantiated accusations"? ========================== From: smh Subject: Ezcd 3.5 & Win 2k - License Violation (1 of 2) Date: 3/4/01 Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: ... only makes inflammatory and unsubstantiated accusations (especially at Adaptec) constantly - Give one example of my "unsubstantiated accusations". ========================= Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? --------------------------------------------- Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec lets loose in Usenet this utter trash. --------------------------------------------- ============================================== Ezcd 3.5 & Win 2k - License Violation (1 of 2) ============================================== "Adrian Miller (cRoxio)" screamed (2/2/01): Now, you are really showing your stupidity Sam. ECDC 3.5c is well documented as causing total melt-down on Windows 2000 in many cases even with a special patch that is no longer available. Without it, trashing the OS is almost certain. If you are stupid enough to follow Sam's advice in this matter I plead with you to take a full system level backup first, as the likelihood that you will have to re-format your hard drives is very high. You forgot to mention that the use of 3.5c on Win 2k is in violation of license agreement or something: ======================= From: Adrian Miller Subject: ECDC 3.5 and Windows 2000 Date: 12/30/00 "Nil" wrote... Adrian Miller said: ECDC 3.5c was never supported on Windows 2000, we provided a method to get it to work as a courtesy to Windows 2000 beta testers but this was heavily abused resulting in a major mess when SP1 was released and WMP7 was released, we withdrew the patch to prevent things getting worse. I found the procedure and the patches and all is working fine for me again, as it has for the last 9 months. I plan to never install WMP7. Please replace your software with newer versions such as ECDC 4.03. No. Unless you would like to give me a copy or there is an inexpensive upgrade. The use of ECDC 3.5c on Windows 2000 was beta only and you were supposed to use it only until purchasing ECDC 4.0x. The fact that you used it for nine months instead of the one or two that you should have used it for shows the type of abuse this beta patch was subjected to. The patch file can only legally be obtained from Roxio, we withdrew it to prevent it being abused further. If you have installed ECDC 3.5c on Windows 2000 do not apply any Windows 2000 service packs as you system will not like it. ===================== From: Don Sterner Subject: ECDC 3.5 and Windows 2000 Date: 1/2/01 I may be getting forgetful in my old age, but I don't remember anything being said earlier that use of ECDC on W2k was to be considered as beta. Nor do I remember reading any time limitations suggesting that it could only be used for a specific length of time. I think everyone understood that full support for ECDC 3.x wouldn't exist for W2K, and I don't think there was really much loud complaining when ECDC3.x was never upgraded to allow full function with W2K. However, to say that people were abusing patches and violating user agreements is another matter entirely. I don't think anyone believed that they may have been in violation of their license agreement by running ECDC3.x under W2k. It is my recollection that ECDC3.x customers were told essentially that they were free to use the limited functionality that existed with W2K. I don't remember any restrictions involving time or anything else. Unless my memory is failing me, these usage restrictions have been developed more recently - after the fact. The consumers knew that full support didn't exist, but that was the extent of it. Nobody felt that they were abusing anything. On the other hand, this and other recent occurrences might have some customers believing that they are being abused by Roxio. The attitudes emanating from your company towards your customers will be harmful to your corporate bottom line in the long run. ==================== ( Note: The patch page referred to below was revised AFTER win2k ) ( went Gold, and the word "beta" was never mentioned. ) ======================= From: Adrian Miller Subject: ECDC 3.5 and Windows 2000 Date: 1/3/01 It was not there in black and white, but it was implied and it did state that it was for use during Windows 2000 beta testing. That can be taken as meaning that it should not be used after the beta program finished at the end of 1999. The other problem is that this patch was widely abused without end user knowledge. I have discovered many cases where companies supplied Windows 2000 machines using this patch to get ECDC 3.5c to work without informing the end user that they were being supplied what later became a time bomb when they installed WMP7. ======================== (Note 1: Don't see how WMP7 can be installed on Win2k when Ezcd 3 supposedly causes total "melt-down" of Win2k.) (Note 2: There were no reports of WMP7 "bomb"-ing Ezcd 3.) (Note 3: WMP7 "bomb"-ed Ezcd 4.) Summary: ---------------------------------------------------------- as an avid reader of this NG, one thing you gotta admit is Adrian's got balls. Either that or he's outta his mind! ---------------------------------------------------------- |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here Whatever happened to "unsubstantiated accusations"? ========================== From: smh Subject: Ezcd 3.5 & Win 2k - License Violation (1 of 2) Date: 3/4/01 Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: ... only makes inflammatory and unsubstantiated accusations (especially at Adaptec) constantly - Give one example of my "unsubstantiated accusations". ========================= Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? --------------------------------------------- Only a trashy company like cRoxio or Acraptec lets loose in Usenet this utter trash. --------------------------------------------- ============================================== Ezcd 3.5 & Win 2k - License Violation (2 of 2) ============================================== "Adrian Miller (cRoxio)" screamed (2/2/01): Now, you are really showing your stupidity Sam. ECDC 3.5c is well documented as causing total melt-down on Windows 2000 in many cases even with a special patch that is no longer available. Without it, trashing the OS is almost certain. If you are stupid enough to follow Sam's advice in this matter I plead with you to take a full system level backup first, as the likelihood that you will have to re-format your hard drives is very high. You forgot to mention that the use of 3.5c on Win 2k is in violation of license agreement or something: ======================== From: Adrian Miller Subject: ECDC 3.5 and Windows 2000 Date: 12/30/00 "Nil" wrote... Adrian Miller said: ECDC 3.5c was never supported on Windows 2000, we provided a method to get it to work as a courtesy to Windows 2000 beta testers but this was heavily abused resulting in a major mess when SP1 was released and WMP7 was released, we withdrew the patch to prevent things getting worse. I found the procedure and the patches and all is working fine for me again, as it has for the last 9 months. I plan to never install WMP7. Please replace your software with newer versions such as ECDC 4.03. No. Unless you would like to give me a copy or there is an inexpensive upgrade. The use of ECDC 3.5c on Windows 2000 was beta only and you were supposed to use it only until purchasing ECDC 4.0x. The fact that you used it for nine months instead of the one or two that you should have used it for shows the type of abuse this beta patch was subjected to. The patch file can only legally be obtained from Roxio, we withdrew it to prevent it being abused further. If you have installed ECDC 3.5c on Windows 2000 do not apply any Windows 2000 service packs as you system will not like it. ==================== From: Videoman Subject: ECDC 3.5 and Windows 2000 Date: 12/31/00 One would assume, that if one has a legal copy of ECDC 3.5c, and the mfg posts a patch to allow it to work on W2K, then there is nothing illegal or unethical about using said patch, to run said program, on said operating system, as long as one wants to. "only until purchasing 4.0x".. that's kind of disturbing. It's no longer considered consumer choice to "upgrade", now it's considered manditory. ==================== ( Note: The patch page referred to below was revised AFTER win2k ) ( went Gold, and the word "beta" was never mentioned. ) ======================= From: Adrian Miller Subject: ECDC 3.5 and Windows 2000 Date: 12/31/00 It was stated that it was a temporary patch for use by Windows 2000 beta testers, Windows 2000 beta program finished at the end of last year. The use of ECDC 4.01 or below breaks many rules on Windows 2000 and has serious conflicts with other newer software. ======================= Summary: ---------------------------------------------------------- as an avid reader of this NG, one thing you gotta admit is Adrian's got balls. Either that or he's outta his mind! ---------------------------------------------------------- |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here - when they gave up, he transferred his diatribes to anyone he saw as in any way an apologist for Roxio, and Mike in particular. Whatever happened to the charge of "libels"? ================================================== === From: smh Subject: Alex Nichol MVP (DTS) - Who's Libeling Whom? Date: 11/5/01 Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: You know all about libel? ======================= From: smh Subject: Ezcd 3.5 & Win 2k - License Violation (1 of 2) Date: 3/4/01 Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: ... only makes inflammatory and unsubstantiated accusations (especially at Adaptec) constantly - Give one example of my "unsubstantiated accusations". ======================= From: smh Subject: Open Letter to SMH (Sam Hong) Date: 9/7/01 Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: If you have seen Mr Hong makes here the kind of libellous personal attacks Could you list the libels? for which he is noted elsewhere, I suggest that you contact , who would be able to arrange to prevent his posts appearing on the MS news servers - if not on others. Such attacks are contrary to Microsoft's expressed rules of contact: they tolerate a good deal, but not attacks like that ======================= Where are your responses, Alex Nichol (MS MVP)? =============================================== |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here - when they gave up, he transferred his diatribes to anyone he saw as in any way an apologist for Roxio, and Mike in particular. Whatever happened to the charge of "libels"? ================================================== === Subject: Alex Nichol MVP (DTS) - Who's Libeling Whom? =========================== Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: If you have seen Mr Hong makes here the kind of libellous personal attacks Could you list the libels? ========================== Where are your responses, Alex Nichol (MS MVP)? ================================================== == Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? ======================== Adrian Miller is Adaptec ======================== ====================== From: smh Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Date: 4/11/00 "Adrian Miller \(Adaptec\)" Adrian Miller (On behalf of the Adaptec Software Products Group) Adrian Miller is Adaptec in these NGs. As long as he has the above signature, and lacking any disclaimer that he is only expressing his private opinions, whatever he says, that's Adaptec is talking. ====================== From: Mike Richter (Adaptec Shill) Date: 4/11/00 Adrian, your secret is out! As often as you have said that you are Adaptec's voice in the newsgroups, smh has finally heard you. I trust that you are suitably grateful to have been found credible, even if in so limited a sense. Congratulations, smh, on your perspicacity! ========================== From: Deirdre Straughan (Acraptec) Date: 4/14/00 Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Well of course. That's what we pay him for. No one ever said any different. ========================== --------------------------------------------------------- Wonder if "attacking" Adrian Miller is attacking Adaptec? --------------------------------------------------------- |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here - when they gave up, he transferred his diatribes to anyone he saw as in any way an apologist for Roxio, and Mike in particular. Whatever happened to the charge of "libels"? ================================================== === Subject: Alex Nichol MVP (DTS) - Who's Libeling Whom? =========================== Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: If you have seen Mr Hong makes here the kind of libellous personal attacks Could you list the libels? ========================== Where are your responses, Alex Nichol (MS MVP)? ================================================== == Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? ======================== Adrian Miller is Adaptec ======================== ====================== From: smh Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Date: 4/11/00 "Adrian Miller \(Adaptec\)" Adrian Miller (On behalf of the Adaptec Software Products Group) Adrian Miller is Adaptec in these NGs. As long as he has the above signature, and lacking any disclaimer that he is only expressing his private opinions, whatever he says, that's Adaptec is talking. ====================== From: Mike Richter (Adaptec Shill) Date: 4/11/00 Adrian, your secret is out! As often as you have said that you are Adaptec's voice in the newsgroups, smh has finally heard you. I trust that you are suitably grateful to have been found credible, even if in so limited a sense. Congratulations, smh, on your perspicacity! ========================== From: Deirdre Straughan (Acraptec) Date: 4/14/00 Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Well of course. That's what we pay him for. No one ever said any different. ========================== --------------------------------------------------------- Wonder if "attacking" Adrian Miller is attacking Adaptec? --------------------------------------------------------- |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here Whatever happened to the charge of "libels"? ================================================== === Subject: Alex Nichol MVP (DTS) - Who's Libeling Whom? ---------------------------- Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: If you have seen Mr Hong makes here the kind of libellous personal attacks Could you list the libels? ---------------------------- ================================================== == Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? ------------------------ Adrian Miller is Adaptec ------------------------ ========================== From: Deirdre Straughan (Acraptec) Date: 4/14/00 Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Well of course. That's what we pay him for. No one ever said any different. ========================== ================================================== =============== Subject: "Personal" abuse when Adrian Miller is cRoxio-Acraptec ? Date: 5/18/01 Deirdre Straughan (cRoxio) spewed: I don't believe Adrian was ever intentionally insulting to anyone on the newsgroups or anywhere else (though of course we are both sorry if he was ever perceived that way. As we all know, email is an easily misinterpreted medium). The same cannot be said for some people out here, who have piled personal abuse on Adrian Why do you suppose I posted the following? ======================= From: smh Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Date: 4/11/00 Adrian Miller is Adaptec in these NGs. ========================== From: Deirdre Straughan (Acraptec) Date: 4/14/00 Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Well of course. That's what we pay him for. No one ever said any different. ========================== ================================================== =============== |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here Whatever happened to the charge of "libels"? ================================================== === Subject: Alex Nichol MVP (DTS) - Who's Libeling Whom? ---------------------------- Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: If you have seen Mr Hong makes here the kind of libellous personal attacks Could you list the libels? ---------------------------- ================================================== == Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? ------------------------ Adrian Miller is Adaptec ------------------------ ========================== From: Deirdre Straughan (Acraptec) Date: 4/14/00 Subject: Adrian Miller is Adaptec Well of course. That's what we pay him for. No one ever said any different. ========================== ================================================== ===== Subject: Not being Abused, but being Pinned to the wall Date: 5/18/01 Deirdre Straughton (cRoxio) spewed: I don't believe Adrian was ever intentionally insulting to anyone on the newsgroups The same cannot be said for some people out here, who have piled personal abuse on Adrian So, as I said, if he got a little testy, I don't blame him. Nor do I see why he should continue to waste his time out here if that's what he and we get in return. One more time: ======================= From: Don Sterner Subject: Adaptec woes? Here's why, folks, and how to fix it Date: 1/3/01 "Adrian Miller (cRoxio)" squeaked: ...the amount of abuse I am taking... You (Y-O-U) are not being abused. As a corporate representative, you're being pinned to the wall and for very good reasons. There's a difference. ========================= ================================================== ===== Notes: ======================= From: Adrian Miller (Acraptec) Subject: EZ CD Creator 4 Deluxe / will install IE 5! Date: 11/23/99 D' has moved on to other things, I have taken over a number of her tasks such as company presence on the Usenet ========================== From: Deirdre Straughan (Acraptec) Subject: De-Commercialization of News Groups Date: 12/3/99 I work in marketing, not tech support, and Adrian works for me. Our marketing channel is the Internet. ========================= |
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Alex Nichol (MS MVP), were you also born with "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face? ------------------------------------------- (Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"?) Alex Nichol (MS MVP) peep-squeaked: It is not just Mike - SMH has a pathological obsessive hatred of Roxio and their products. He was offensive to the point of obscenity at two Roxio people who used to post and help here - when they gave up, he transferred his diatribes to anyone he saw as in any way an apologist for Roxio, and Mike in particular. Whatever happened to the charge of "libels"? ================================================== === Subject: Alex Nichol MVP (DTS) - Who's Libeling Whom? ======================= Alex Nichol (MS MVP) spewed: If you have seen Mr Hong makes here the kind of libellous PERSONAL attacks Could you list the libels? ======================= Where are your responses, Alex Nichol (MS MVP)? =============================================== Does the "P" in MVP stand for "PRICK"? ========================= From: Don Sterner Date: 12/22/99 Adrian Miller (Acraptec) I have a very good idea of what will be in the next update and when it arrives it will take you a while to find something else to BITCH about with ECDC 4. You complain about it so much and I am willing to put money on it that you do not even own a copy. Privately mail me your TSID and prove me wrong. Well, that missile wasn't aimed at me, but I certainly do think that it's an inappropriate post from a company representative and it deserves a response. I have stated several times in the past that I don't own ECDC 4, and I have no intentions of buying it until I can see from user reports here that it is a reasonable decision to buy it. I certainly don't feel that way now. ECDC4 is bug-laden. I am a buying customer of ECDC 3.x (twice, once as a bundle, then had to pay full price to get the complete package). I had numerous problems with that software, waiting for many months for updates to problems that never should have existed in any commercially-released product. I vowed to never buy another Adaptec product until I had confidence that it deserved my money. I'm still waiting for the updates that will make ECDC4 a good product. I am a potential customer. I have nothing in particular against Adaptec, but I do refuse to knowingly buy troublesome software - and I'll be outspoken out software problems when they've come from an organization that has repeatedly shipped problematic software in the past (as has Adaptec). I feel that it's within my rights to do so. It's to my advantage to speak out and encourage proper fixes - and to warn other potential users about the problems. It's up to Adaptec to clean up their act, and they need to accept that they will be subject to criticism until they do. If the newsgroups get too hot for Adaptec employees, the proper action is to encourage their management to take proper action, not to attack and belittle newsgroup members. ========================== |
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