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Old October 15th 06, 11:20 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.

Thanx in advance
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Old October 15th 06, 01:23 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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milou wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 11:20:24 +0100, nice1
wrote:

Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.


If your sister had money to burn, the cartridges for the new Canon
models cost as much or more than the printer.

What printer would you recommend? she does not have money to burn, maybe
a printer for about 50ish that can use compatibles.

Thanx
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Old October 15th 06, 02:12 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
measekite
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nice1 wrote:

Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers,


Absolutely Not. There is NONE!

or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that,


Not really. Just because they squirt out of the nozzles does not mean
they are compatible. They have a higher risk of clogging. They fade
more rapidly. The result is lower quality. Therefore they are not
compatible.

but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise,


She should call Tech Suppt and ask their advice. She should read PC
World and PC Mag test reports and she should read www.wilhelm-research.com

but i am unsure about the newer canon models.



I am sure

Thanx in advance


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Old October 15th 06, 02:29 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Wolfgang Schmittenhammer
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nice1 wrote:
Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.

Thanx in advance

Have a pixma 6000d and refill all the time, if you are not a klutz, and
pay attention to details, not a problem.. Last set of ink was about $40
for 6 bottles, 4oz. each.. Cost about 50 cents per refill.. I would
recommend buying an extra set of cartidges, so you can refill at your
leisure.. Also, what many people don't know or think about, you do not
want to leave your printer setting open while you refill.. Heads will
dry out and clog, with an extra set, you can just 'pop' the new
cartridge in.. The great thing about the Canons (4000, or 6000) is they
have a prism in the bottom of the cartridge (would recommend Canon
cartridges, don't know if third party cartridges have the prism) and
informs you when it is ACTUALLY GETTING LOW. Not an extimated thing..
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Old October 15th 06, 02:36 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Wolfgang Schmittenhammer
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Forgot, no, they (Canon Pixma 4000, 6000d) DO NOT have a chip, they
use a light and a prism to sense ink level, when you refill, there is no
message..
FYI, I own a Nikon D70 and get many compliments where I work on the
pictures I print out. One lady asked me to do her wedding and a guy had
me do some homecoming pics, both people were VERY pleased.
Also, just ordered a continuous ink system.. I can let you know how
that works out...Dave M.


Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:
nice1 wrote:

Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon
models.

Thanx in advance


Have a pixma 6000d and refill all the time, if you are not a klutz, and
pay attention to details, not a problem.. Last set of ink was about $40
for 6 bottles, 4oz. each.. Cost about 50 cents per refill.. I would
recommend buying an extra set of cartidges, so you can refill at your
leisure.. Also, what many people don't know or think about, you do not
want to leave your printer setting open while you refill.. Heads will
dry out and clog, with an extra set, you can just 'pop' the new
cartridge in.. The great thing about the Canons (4000, or 6000) is they
have a prism in the bottom of the cartridge (would recommend Canon
cartridges, don't know if third party cartridges have the prism) and
informs you when it is ACTUALLY GETTING LOW. Not an extimated thing..

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Old October 15th 06, 08:15 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
measekite
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Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:

Forgot, no, they (Canon Pixma 4000, 6000d) DO NOT have a chip,
they use a light and a prism to sense ink level, when you refill,
there is no message..
FYI, I own a Nikon D70 and get many compliments where I work on
the pictures I print out.



You have a great Camera that is expensive and yet you use clogging high
risk fading poor quality results. Why you should get a cheapo camera is
you are going to use cheapo ink.

One lady asked me to do her wedding and a guy had me do some
homecoming pics, both people were VERY pleased.
Also, just ordered a continuous ink system.. I can let you know how
that works out...Dave M.


Wolfgang Schmittenhammer wrote:

nice1 wrote:

Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon
models.

Thanx in advance



Have a pixma 6000d and refill all the time, if you are not a klutz,
and pay attention to details, not a problem.. Last set of ink was
about $40 for 6 bottles, 4oz. each.. Cost about 50 cents per refill..
I would recommend buying an extra set of cartidges, so you can refill
at your leisure.. Also, what many people don't know or think about,
you do not want to leave your printer setting open while you refill..
Heads will dry out and clog, with an extra set, you can just 'pop'
the new cartridge in.. The great thing about the Canons (4000, or
6000) is they have a prism in the bottom of the cartridge (would
recommend Canon cartridges, don't know if third party cartridges have
the prism) and informs you when it is ACTUALLY GETTING LOW. Not an
extimated thing..


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Old October 15th 06, 08:25 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Hello all,

Can some one please tell me if compatible inks can be used on the newer
canon printers, or have they put chips on them? i have a pixma ip4000
and i can use compatibles in that, but my sister is after a new printer
and has asked for my advise, but i am unsure about the newer canon models.

Thanx in advance


please read my response to tneg50. There are compatable refill inks but no
prefilled compatable carts, due to the chips on the newest Canon carts. The
new carts can be refilled several times and rejuvinated when they stop
functioning properly.


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Old October 15th 06, 11:18 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
Colin Reddish
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"Burt" wrote in message
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"nice1" wrote in message
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please read my response to tneg50. There are compatable refill inks but
no prefilled compatable carts, due to the chips on the newest Canon carts.
The new carts can be refilled several times and rejuvinated when they stop
functioning properly.


There are carts which claim to be compatable for the IP4200/IP5200 Canon
printers appearing on the UK eBay autions currently. They require the chip
from a genuine Canon cart to be transferred to the compatable cart. Prices
are from about 1.50 each.

A mainstream UK compatable cart manufacturer is also listing "available
soon" compatable carts for these printers.
http://www.jettec.co.uk/newproducts.asp
Note this manufacturer is also claiming that they are in the final stages of
developing a compatible chip.

Currently available compatible carts don't allow the use of ink monitoring
and require this to be done visibly. How easy is it to visibly check ink
levels on an IP4200 printer?
--
Colin Reddish
UK


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Old October 15th 06, 11:47 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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"Colin Reddish" wrote in message
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"Burt" wrote in message
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"nice1" wrote in message
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please read my response to tneg50. There are compatable refill inks but
no prefilled compatable carts, due to the chips on the newest Canon
carts. The new carts can be refilled several times and rejuvinated when
they stop functioning properly.


There are carts which claim to be compatable for the IP4200/IP5200 Canon
printers appearing on the UK eBay autions currently. They require the chip
from a genuine Canon cart to be transferred to the compatable cart. Prices
are from about 1.50 each.

A mainstream UK compatable cart manufacturer is also listing "available
soon" compatable carts for these printers.
http://www.jettec.co.uk/newproducts.asp
Note this manufacturer is also claiming that they are in the final stages
of developing a compatible chip.

Currently available compatible carts don't allow the use of ink monitoring
and require this to be done visibly. How easy is it to visibly check ink
levels on an IP4200 printer?
--
Colin Reddish
UK

Very easy. Same as on the bci-6 carts with previous printers. When the
printhead moves to the center of the carriage for cart changes a quick
glance (with a flashlight (torch?), if necessary) will show any carts with
ink levels above the edge of the top of the printhead. Removing, looking at
a cart, and replacing it takes a few seconds. Wise to do this before
starting on a large print project. Canon could have dealt refillers a
greater blow by putting chips on the carts AND making them out of opaque
plastic so you can't see the ink levels.


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Old October 16th 06, 01:37 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
measekite
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Colin Reddish wrote:

"Burt" wrote in message
t...


"nice1" wrote in message
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please read my response to tneg50. There are compatable refill inks


Those inks do not match Canon's specifications

but
no prefilled compatable carts, due to the chips on the newest Canon carts.
The new carts can be refilled several times and rejuvinated when they stop
functioning properly.



There are carts which claim to be compatable for the IP4200/IP5200 Canon
printers appearing on the UK eBay autions currently. They require the chip
from a genuine Canon cart to be transferred to the compatable cart.


then obviously they are not compatible

Prices
are from about 1.50 each.

A mainstream UK compatable cart manufacturer is also listing "available
soon" compatable carts for these printers.
http://www.jettec.co.uk/newproducts.asp
Note this manufacturer is also claiming that they are in the final stages of
developing a compatible chip.

Currently available compatible carts don't allow the use of ink monitoring
and require this to be done visibly. How easy is it to visibly check ink
levels on an IP4200 printer?


 




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