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Avivo Video?
What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I
change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? |
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Avivo Video?
"Fidelis K" wrote in message ... What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? Where are you seeing this setting? Describe how you get to it? Luck; Ken |
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Avivo Video?
"Ken Maltby" wrote in message ... "Fidelis K" wrote in message ... What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? Where are you seeing this setting? Describe how you get to it? How can you not see it in the CCC? |
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Avivo Video?
"Fidelis K" wrote in message news "Ken Maltby" wrote in message ... "Fidelis K" wrote in message ... What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? Where are you seeing this setting? Describe how you get to it? How can you not see it in the CCC? All I see, in the Basic menu, is the "button" to launch the Converter. I don't recall any real "setting" for Avivo, in CCC, at all. Luck; Ken |
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Avivo Video?
"Ken Maltby" wrote in message ... All I see, in the Basic menu, is the "button" to launch the Converter. I don't recall any real "setting" for Avivo, in CCC, at all. Oh, I see. I never used the basic menu. Change CCC to the advanced menu and you'll see many parameters of Avivo that you can adjust. |
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Avivo Video?
Avivo Only works with cards above 1xxx, i.e. 1300, 1600, 1900, etc. It will
not work with x800, 9700, 9600, etc. That is why you cannot see it...your ATI card cannot support it and you will not see it in CCC. You obviously have not been to the ATI update page in a long, long time...Avivio has been there for download for a Loooooong time, along with the list of cards that are compatible. Honu "Ken Maltby" wrote in message ... "Fidelis K" wrote in message news "Ken Maltby" wrote in message ... "Fidelis K" wrote in message ... What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? Where are you seeing this setting? Describe how you get to it? How can you not see it in the CCC? All I see, in the Basic menu, is the "button" to launch the Converter. I don't recall any real "setting" for Avivo, in CCC, at all. Luck; Ken |
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Avivo Video?
"Hertz_Donut" wrote in message newsdKdnaXDqY5EBuvYnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@hawaiiantel. net... Avivo Only works with cards above 1xxx, i.e. 1300, 1600, 1900, etc. It will not work with x800, 9700, 9600, etc. That is why you cannot see it...your ATI card cannot support it and you will not see it in CCC. You obviously have not been to the ATI update page in a long, long time...Avivio has been there for download for a Loooooong time, along with the list of cards that are compatible. Honu Actually that's not completely true. The individual DirectShow filters that make up the converter will work with any card. I use both the hacked and official versions on my x850, without the CCC. And the official version on my x1600 pro for my HTPC, with the CCC. I also found the Avivo settings in the advanced CCC view. They were all pretty self-explanatory. There is one of them I've been using for a long time (the 720p setting) with my projector. I just forgot where I had set it. The Avivo converter download is a little hard to find, and has been so for some time. It's part of the Parental controls update download. Luck; Ken |
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Avivo Video?
Fidelis K wrote:
What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? I prefer to use "Let the app ..." where that is available. I have enabled pull-down detection, tho. But I've not dabbled with the controls sufficiently as to say they do or do not make much of a difference. BTW, I'm using the x1300 (near, or at, the bottom of ATI's xpile) and only got that to experiment with the Avivo converter - not entirely a waste of time but also not ready for prime time; it's more like a toy actually! When a non-PC neighbor asks to borrow a TV capture I might have made, I can use the converter to produce an MPEG2 DVD compliant file from my 12 mbps MPEG2 captures. However, this process is only marginally faster than other software I already own - and not fast enough to suggest to me that the GPU is employed. Likewise, it does not support "squeezing" to values between 8 and 12 mbps, for those captures which are just a hair above 4.7 gigadecimals. |
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Avivo Video?
"Bill's News" wrote in message ... Fidelis K wrote: What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? I prefer to use "Let the app ..." where that is available. I have enabled pull-down detection, tho. But I've not dabbled with the controls sufficiently as to say they do or do not make much of a difference. BTW, I'm using the x1300 (near, or at, the bottom of ATI's xpile) and only got that to experiment with the Avivo converter - not entirely a waste of time but also not ready for prime time; it's more like a toy actually! When a non-PC neighbor asks to borrow a TV capture I might have made, I can use the converter to produce an MPEG2 DVD compliant file from my 12 mbps MPEG2 captures. However, this process is only marginally faster than other software I already own - and not fast enough to suggest to me that the GPU is employed. Likewise, it does not support "squeezing" to values between 8 and 12 mbps, for those captures which are just a hair above 4.7 gigadecimals. If you were to use GraphEdit and access the property pages, as I have suggested, you would find that for MPEG-DVD you can set the average bit rate from 1.000mbps to 15.000mbps. You can also set the VBR, Peak bitrate in the same range. If you use the generic MPEG-2 standard you can set them from: 500.0kbps to 20.000mbps. It does not use the GPU, at all, not with any cards. If it is taking more than 10min to transcode a 42min TV capture you must have something set wrong or some other issue slowing the process. It is still a toy because ATI doesn't support or improve on it's current ability to apply quality improvements at the cost of some speed. There could be the perfect compromise, but I just haven't found it. Luck; Ken |
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Ken Maltby wrote:
"Bill's News" wrote in message ... Fidelis K wrote: What does the Avivo setting in the catalyst control center actually do? If I change the setting, will it change the way, say, Media Player plays back various video clips? I prefer to use "Let the app ..." where that is available. I have enabled pull-down detection, tho. But I've not dabbled with the controls sufficiently as to say they do or do not make much of a difference. BTW, I'm using the x1300 (near, or at, the bottom of ATI's xpile) and only got that to experiment with the Avivo converter - not entirely a waste of time but also not ready for prime time; it's more like a toy actually! When a non-PC neighbor asks to borrow a TV capture I might have made, I can use the converter to produce an MPEG2 DVD compliant file from my 12 mbps MPEG2 captures. However, this process is only marginally faster than other software I already own - and not fast enough to suggest to me that the GPU is employed. Likewise, it does not support "squeezing" to values between 8 and 12 mbps, for those captures which are just a hair above 4.7 gigadecimals. If you were to use GraphEdit and access the property pages, as I have suggested, you would find that for MPEG-DVD you can set the average bit rate from 1.000mbps to 15.000mbps. You can also set the VBR, Peak bitrate in the same range. If you use the generic MPEG-2 standard you can set them from: 500.0kbps to 20.000mbps. It does not use the GPU, at all, not with any cards. If it is taking more than 10min to transcode a 42min TV capture you must have something set wrong or some other issue slowing the process. It is still a toy because ATI doesn't support or improve on it's current ability to apply quality improvements at the cost of some speed. There could be the perfect compromise, but I just haven't found it. Luck; Ken Thanks Ken, I had used GraphEdit for the Xvid-like, and h264-like conversions (both of which proved unsatisfactory, as you already know). Yes, I recall now having seen the settings for MPEG2 DVD, but in abandoning the one project I simply forgot about the other. My mpeg4-ish conversions were in the order of 9 minutes - even when the source and target were on USB2 drives. The conversions to MPEG2 DVD (via the Avivo converter), so far I've done two, were in the order of 16 minutes - tho the estimated time to complete vacillates so wildly I may not have noticed the actual time at completion. I only assumed that the GPU was employed on the faster conversions because the CPU overhead is lighter than pass one of xvid conversions via conventional programs - VDub-MPEG2 for example. I didn't bother to monitor the MPEG2 process via Avivo, my objective was merely to produce a DVD and it did so a tad quicker than software for which I paid separately. Presently, I'm still doing xvid via FlaskMPEG. Quite surprisingly this process utilizes the 2gHz AMD64-x2 by 512 (both core processors hitting 60% or more) much better than VDub (which predominantly utilizes one core) and my pass one conversions are running near 70 to 110 frames per second, while pass two is 40ish or 25ish depending upon whether I enable B frame VHQ. This is a significant increase over the 2gp4-512 which I had previously used to process these files - those typically consuming 3x or much more of play time - and is nearly twice as fast a VDub. This did not reveal itself on the older CPU as the programs were CPU bound. Using the widest search parameters, pass two drops to a mere 15 fps on the current equipment - but the result is spectacular. If ATI ever gets serious about Avivo conversion, I'll try it again - because some day I might need h264. Oh BTW, my CPU utilization figures are influenced by the fact that this PC I bought to experiment with Avivo has but one internal drive and the other drives are USB2 - so it's natural to be i/o bound on some of these processes. |
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