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"Socket A" vs "Socket 478" (Amd vs Intel)
Just wanna know, i'm thinking of buying a new pc, but i wanna make it last in time, so: Which of these two sockets have a longer life expectance? i mean, i want a motherboard wich will allow me in two years to give a "second youth" to my system by upgrading the processor to it's best option (i mean, many motherboards say, for example: "supported processors: intel IV 3.2 Ghz AND ABOVE"; that "and above" sounds really confusing, as i don't know for how long will socket 478 or socket A be running). And another question: where i live, the pentium IV 2.8 Ghz almost duplicates in cost the celeron 2.6 Ghz, and of course, as i'm not keen on throwing money away, i wanna know if the celeron 2.6 Ghz could be used on a Socket 478 motherboard (so i could save money and upgrade later when pentium IV prices lowered). Thanks in advance. |
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"Minstro" wrote in message
... Which of these two sockets have a longer life expectance? Socket A to last at least till end of 2005: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...18_608,00.html 3.4GHz P4 may be the last of socket 478. Socket 775 to follow together with new BTX form factor. |
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By the time you try to upgrade the CPU in a couple of years, the BIOS on the
board may not support the new CPU, even if the socket was still the same. Also, since they keep lowering the voltage requirements for the CPUs, the voltage regulator on your motherboard probably won't handle the new CPU. What you could get is a faster CPU that is currently at a premium price because it is the top of the line, but by then it probably won't be enough faster to justify the expense. Just put the money toward a newer board and CPU and you'll probably be happier. -- Wayne Morgan |
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Minstro wrote:
Just wanna know, i'm thinking of buying a new pc, but i wanna make it last in time, so: Which of these two sockets have a longer life expectance? i mean, i want a motherboard wich will allow me in two years to give a "second youth" to my system by upgrading the processor to it's best option (i mean, many motherboards say, for example: "supported processors: intel IV 3.2 Ghz AND ABOVE"; that "and above" sounds really confusing, as i don't know for how long will socket 478 or socket A be running). And another question: where i live, the pentium IV 2.8 Ghz almost duplicates in cost the celeron 2.6 Ghz, and of course, as i'm not keen on throwing money away, i wanna know if the celeron 2.6 Ghz could be used on a Socket 478 motherboard (so i could save money and upgrade later when pentium IV prices lowered). As Alien Zord points out, both Socket A and Socket 478 are nearing the end of their lifespans. Purchasing a good motherboard and model 2600+ Barton core Athlon XP is a very cost effective solution. If you prefer Intel, choose a P4 over the Celeron, even if the P4 is slower. The Celeron is a neutered P4 which Intel really should drop from production. |
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The processors made by Intel almost all work on the P4 Socket 478.
There were not many of the other Socket 423 P4's made. You probably would have a hard time finding any. Celerons designed for the P4 should do fine on any P4 Socket 478 motherboard. I would not buy any of the celerons myself. An AMD 1.6Gig Duron is faster than a 2.6Gig celeron when playing games. Before I would buy a Celeron I definitely would suggest using an AMD Athlon. If you are willing to spend over $150 for a processor, an 800Mhz P4 processor is probably a good buy. I wouldnt buy anything too expensive much over $200 for a processor is probably too much. I would not suggest spending $300 or $400 for a processor. The Prescott will soon go to the next socket, and soon the Athlon 64s will be dropping down to about the $120 level. 2 years from now I would expect a 4 Gig processor of some kind. Who knows what will be available then. Just wanna know, i'm thinking of buying a new pc, but i wanna make it last in time, so: Which of these two sockets have a longer life expectance? i mean, i want a motherboard wich will allow me in two years to give a "second youth" to my system by upgrading the processor to it's best option (i mean, many motherboards say, for example: "supported processors: intel IV 3.2 Ghz AND ABOVE"; that "and above" sounds really confusing, as i don't know for how long will socket 478 or socket A be running). And another question: where i live, the pentium IV 2.8 Ghz almost duplicates in cost the celeron 2.6 Ghz, and of course, as i'm not keen on throwing money away, i wanna know if the celeron 2.6 Ghz could be used on a Socket 478 motherboard (so i could save money and upgrade later when pentium IV prices lowered). Thanks in advance. |
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Must confess i'm a bit confused; sure i think i'll take the Athlon XP 2600+ option, but, how many cores are available besides Barton for that model? why should i take Barton core? which are it's advantages? (up to now, i hadn't worried about cores; mean don't know nothing about them). Thanks for all the answers, they've been of great help. "S.Heenan" escribió en el mensaje news:GcP8c.6000$li5.159@pd7tw3no... As Alien Zord points out, both Socket A and Socket 478 are nearing the end of their lifespans. Purchasing a good motherboard and model 2600+ Barton core Athlon XP is a very cost effective solution. If you prefer Intel, choose a P4 over the Celeron, even if the P4 is slower. The Celeron is a neutered P4 which Intel really should drop from production. |
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Minstro wrote:
Must confess i'm a bit confused; sure i think i'll take the Athlon XP 2600+ option, but, how many cores are available besides Barton for that model? why should i take Barton core? which are it's advantages? (up to now, i hadn't worried about cores; mean don't know nothing about them). The Barton Model 10 core Athlon XP has 512KB of L2 cache, which is twice the L2 cache of the Thoroughbred core Model 8. To the end user, this means better performance in some, but not all tasks. AMD document #26237 gives all of the Barton specs: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...4_3748,00.html I suggested the 2600+ retail model in the interest of economy. A motherboard using the Nforce2 Ultra400 chipset will maximize performance. Abit, Asus, and Gigabyte all make fine boards. |
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What about QDI Kudoz 7X series for a motherboard? AMD nForce2 ULTRA AN7 (uGuru) costs ................. 120 euros. AMD VIAKT400A KUDOZ 7X/400A-6AL costs ...... 66 euros. AMD VIAKT400A KUDOZ 7X/600A-6AL costs ...... 69 euros. Is it worth paying the double? "S.Heenan" escribió en el mensaje news:3SV8c.11355$R27.9118@pd7tw2no... I suggested the 2600+ retail model in the interest of economy. A motherboard using the Nforce2 Ultra400 chipset will maximize performance. Abit, Asus, and Gigabyte all make fine boards. |
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Minstro wrote:
What about QDI Kudoz 7X series for a motherboard? AMD nForce2 ULTRA AN7 (uGuru) costs ................. 120 euros. AMD VIAKT400A KUDOZ 7X/400A-6AL costs ...... 66 euros. AMD VIAKT600A KUDOZ 7X/600A-6AL costs ...... 69 euros. Is it worth paying the double? For my needs and wants, yes. That's a question you will have to answer for yourself. The VIA KT400/KT600 boards will certainly support the AMD Barton. The KUDOZ 7X/600A-6AL is the better of the two QDI boards. |
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What kind of needs? i plan buying it for games and video mainly, running multiple tasks simultaneously (i.e. running a game while listening winamp music and using P2P sofware), and some video compression processing; situations where the system gets stressed the most; if it can handle this, i suppose it will anything else. I've been searching the web, and what i found is that "AMD nForce2 ULTRA AN7 (uGuru)" supports dual channel DRR memory (just couldn't find out if KUDOZ can). Besides that, didn't find anything significant, though of course, i'm not an expert. What are its advantages? On the other hand, dual channel DDR memory is still quite expensive, so i would buy nomal memory and upgrade in the future, in case i chose nForce2 ULTRA. "S.Heenan" escribió en el mensaje news:xhX8c.12192$QO2.4186@pd7tw1no... For my needs and wants, yes. That's a question you will have to answer for yourself. The VIA KT400/KT600 boards will certainly support the AMD Barton. The KUDOZ 7X/600A-6AL is the better of the two QDI boards. |
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