How much is this setup worth..?

J wrote:
"philo" wrote in message

17" Viewsonic P775 monitor
AMD Thunderbird 1000 processor
Asus A7V Socket A motherboard (with Promise controller)
512mb Ram
Asus GeForce2 video card (deluxe model, I forget the name)
SB Live Gold sound card
2 hard drives (60gb each, 120 total)
Network card (I forget the name, but it's a good one)
450w Antec power supply
Original Windows XP CD

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prob $200 or so.
it's woth that much...but in today's market...it might be hard
to get... so since he did not give you any special deal on the
car... i guess you need not give him any special deal on the
comp

btw: my estimate may be off a bit... so you may want to check on
ebay

Guys, come on.. the original XP copy (/w certificate) is worth
more than half of that. And even the most generic 17" monitor is
worth more than $100, and this is a Viewsonic. We cracked the
$200 mark just with XP and the monitor. Don't tell me the whole
thing is worth no more than $200 at the very most.

Well, I have a better attitude towards older machines. I would
certainly give you $300 FOB my address, provided it has ECC memory,
or even capability. Without ECC it is a disaster waiting to
happen. I don't consider XP an advantage though.

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:15:23 -0400, "J"
wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:26:33 -0400, J wrote:

Guys, come on.. the original XP copy (/w certificate) is worth more than
half of that. And even the most generic 17" monitor is worth more than
$100,
and this is a Viewsonic. We cracked the $200 mark just with XP and the
monitor. Don't tell me the whole thing is worth no more than $200 at the
very most.

I can buy new 17" monitors all day long for under $80.

But I never asked what you COULD find no-name generic 17" monitors for...
first, we're talking about a brand name here, which is an instant price
hike.

No, Viewsonic is not a value-added name brand. Sony/etc
are. It wasn't even a good monitor when new, and now aged.
If it's clean enough to eat off of, and bright, crisp, less
than 3 years old, it's worth $30.

Second, you missed the entire point of the posting. The question was,
what is the MOST (not the LEAST) I can charge for this system without
screwing the guy over?

The most you can charge is fair market value. If it were a
friendly sale, it'd cost $100 or you'd just give it to him.


That it is POSSIBLE to find the items cheaper is irrelevant. What's the MOST
they're likely to go for? And what would be the sum total of all those
highest-possible prices?

It is MOST likely the box wouldnt' sell for over $200
because it has a mere 1GHz CPU in it. Plus, anyone out
there looking for such a system is aware you're not the only
person in the world with an old computer, so certainly they
know price comparisions could save $.


Again, I'm not looking to give the guy a good deal here. This guy sold me a
used car top-dollar.

Your argument is invalid. You chose to buy the car... if it
was overpriced, you shouldn't have bought it. Similarly,
you can set a price on the box and he accepts or declines.
If he's just a stingy friend then just price it at fair
value and skip the whole relationship it has to some past
car purchase.


He didn't screw me over, but after a bit of
post-purchase researching, he was right at the limit. I'd like to return the
favor.

If you consider the box worth more than $225, you should
keep it.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:10:21 -0400, "J"
wrote:


nope that's about all it's worth on the market...
you can get *NEW* systems complete for as little as $300...

Oh come on, play fair. New systems at that price are 1-piece units.

Yes, but they're NEW. Did you pay same price for that car
as it sells for new? I mean current model new price, not
past years' price since automobiles have gotten more
expensive while computers cheaper and multiplie times
faster.


The kind
that ship with AC97 audio and won't accept a sound card or video card
upgrade of anykind.

That's ridiculous. Any box with a PCI slot will.


That's cheating. These are all brand names I'm selling,
not generics, and obviously the system isn't a 1-piece.

BUT, the pieces are only better than all-integrated was
THEN, not necessarily now. Today an nForce2 motherboard's
video may be as fast as your old GF2 card. The sound card
is still better but how many people who dont' know a lot
about computers really put extra value into which card it
has? Of those people, how many buy old systems for more
than $100?


however...since the guy did not give you any special deal on the car...
no harm in telling him $300...
you can always negotiate

Well, like I said. He sold me the car for what I would have paid for it from
a used car salesman. No more, no less. I don't want to screw the guy. I just
want to charge him the most I can for what the items are worth.

You might need a gun and some drugs to make this happen. If
you hate the guy that much just avoid him. You did take his
offer on the car, when you could've countered or researched
it beforehand.

A bit of advice- always research value on any big-ticket
item before purchase. Inevitably anything that's overpriced
will be on the market longer, the percentage of bad deals is
higher than good ones at any moment, relative to average
deals.


As someone else pointed out, the monitor, XP CD (I don't care if anyone
thinks XP is worth $1, it's simply not being sold at that price anywhere)
and Antec 450 power supply unit drive the price up higher than the estimates
you guys gave me for everything combined.

They're USED parts. Every part has a finite lifespan. The
depreciation of it being "used" plus the reduction in
lifespan, PLUS the technological depreciation, make any
system over 3 years old, worth less than $300 unless you're
talking about a server.



C'mon. Help me get even with this guy for the damn car. (Without
stealing.)

The damn GeForce2 was a Deluxe! It came with 3D goggles for heaven's sake!


Donate it to a charity and write it off... I wouldn't mess
with the IRS though and suggest you value it reasonably.

Well, I have a better attitude towards older machines. I would
certainly give you $300 FOB my address, provided it has ECC memory,
or even capability. Without ECC it is a disaster waiting to
happen. I don't consider XP an advantage though.



Sheesh!
I've got a new (old stock)
P-IV with 768 megs of RAM
that I've been trying to sell locally for $200.
No takers yet.
I wish more people like you lived in my hometown

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:52:09 -0500, "philo"
wrote:



Well, I have a better attitude towards older machines. I would
certainly give you $300 FOB my address, provided it has ECC memory,
or even capability. Without ECC it is a disaster waiting to
happen. I don't consider XP an advantage though.



Sheesh!
I've got a new (old stock)
P-IV with 768 megs of RAM
that I've been trying to sell locally for $200.
No takers yet.
I wish more people like you lived in my hometown


Try advertising it on the local college campus bulletin
boards and include phrases like "Negotiable" and "OBO".

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Try advertising it on the local college campus bulletin
boards and include phrases like "Negotiable" and "OBO".


There are a number of places I've posted it here in town...
There are a few local "for sale"groups and also "Craig's List"

I manage to sell a P-III or AMD-1000 now and then for $75 - $100.
I can get $50 for a P-II if I include a monitor.
and I've given away 100's of p1's free!
The people in this town really don't seem to part with their money too
easily
But it I don't sell the P-IV that's fine...as I always like to keep a few
decent machines
around here in case one of my friends has an emergency.

"J" wrote in message
eenews.net...
I just upgraded my computer, and a friend of mine with very basic
word-processing needs wants to buy my old one. I'm looking for some
recommendation on what to charge him for it.

One thing worth mentioning here is that this friend sold me his car two
years ago, and didn't give me anykind of special "friend" deal on it. He
charged me the most he could ask for for the vehicle without cheating or
stealing. Let's call it fair, but upper-range fair.

That said, I will return the favor. I don't want to rip this guy off. But
I don't want to do him any special favors either. Which is why I'm asking
you guys how much I could charge for the following without stepping over
the invisible "screw him over" line.

17" Viewsonic P775 monitor
AMD Thunderbird 1000 processor
Asus A7V Socket A motherboard (with Promise controller)
512mb Ram
Asus GeForce2 video card (deluxe model, I forget the name)
SB Live Gold sound card
2 hard drives (60gb each, 120 total)
Network card (I forget the name, but it's a good one)
450w Antec power supply
Original Windows XP CD

I think that's about it, off the top of my head. Everything's running
great and smoothly.

How much could I charge someone for this (upper end, without screwing
anyone over)?

Thanks.

Max $300.00!!

kony wrote:
You might need a gun and some drugs to make this happen.

LOL. If I had a dollar for every time I used that approach....... Wait a
minute! I do! Considerably more than a dollar for some of them.

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